On the new TSA body scan/pat down

Underpantsu-bomber.

I realize this is the serious Discussion fourm...i would let them pat me down... then ask what it would take to get a happy ending... (if i ever fly again i will do this, i could care less of the conquences)

the questions they will most likely dodge, while installing more scanners in all public locations.

actually, they might just step it up to major public locations. if they start slamming those things onto buses and other method of public transportation i am seriously going to buy a truck and be happy forever.

Also, Israelification

The reason they want scanners at all airports and are also pushing them to be put on all public terminals is because the companies that make these machines are lobbying extensively for them. Yet, like many of the links we've mentioned above, the scanners are useless.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/22/body-scanner-makers-doubl_n_787275.html

Yeah pretty much. Just like they lobbied for the air-puff machines that did nothing...at least THOSE didn't radiate or take naked photos of you, though...

I have honestly flown about 10 times in the past two months. Of those 10 times, only 2 of them actually requested I use the full body scanner when going through security. Each time I said I wanted to opt out of the scan and they pulled me aside and had a male agent pat me down. It is indeed a thorough pat down but they explain it in detail step by step.

I like neither the pat downs nor the scanners, but I honestly expect them and I have no problem going through it. I have accepted that right now it is part of the process if I want to fly. And getting through security has never taken more than 20 minutes for me, so it doesn't really slow things down.

That said, I do not think the enhanced security is very effective. I think it is more a "peace of mind" thing for regular citizens and it makes it less enticing for terrorists to target planes. Clearly if they wanted to they could do plenty of damage elsewhere, but even with then it is certainly necessary to protect our planes. I just think we could do it in a more effective and less intrusive way.

Also airports have the option to use a private company instead of the TSA, but that company still has to follow the TSA guidelines. I think there are 10 - 12 airports out there that have chosen to do this.

P.S. I am writing this from an airport right now, and they did not request I use the full body scanner when I went through security and I did not have to go through a pat down. Just a standard metal detector.

Well, this coming from a person who has been flying airplanes since I was a 2 year old baby as a passenger. I've gotten on +200 planes in my lifetime now, I have to fly to get shit done.

Compared to today, the security in the past was alot more lax and flexible, u could actually bring toothpaste and nail clippers with you, how on earth terrorists managed to take people hostage with nail clippers is beyond me. I'm more likely to break the terrorist's head with my laptop if he tried to hold me hostage with a nail clipper.

Your families could walk under the metal detector and sit at the chairs as they waited for your flight to land. Why this isn't allowed is beyond me too, population increase? Potentional angry terrorists in lurking? Personally, I'm saying that USA looks weak for installing so many security measures out of fear of other attack. That or more attacks on our freedoms from politicians.

I'm not really pleased by the pat down option because that means I will get touched by a random man more often than usual.

Personally I really hate and loathe Osama guy something terrorist for what he did, he got what he wanted, he's griefing alot of americans from a single attack.

I question the validity of new devices because they have proven to be not 100% effective, it seems like they're just about as effective as metal detectors expect that they cost alot more than metal detectors from the comments i'm reading in here.

So, why don't they just hold off installing new detectors until they have a good one that actually works well. And can bust people that is actually terrorists and not some random geriatric person with a mechanic part.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/loaded-gun-slips-past-tsa-screeners/story?id=12412458&tqkw=&tqshow=WN



Yeah...useless security measures.

Would've metal detector detected the glock gun?

If anything it simply means its easier to smuggle a gun on ur body now onto the planes by having it look like something else and fool the xray pictures. While the metal detector would've blared cuz the guns is made of metal.

You could try reading the article.

So.. the security team is simply bored from screening bags and start to overlook stuff on accident?

Depends on the Pat-downner

If the Pat-Downer has ridiculously good looks...then maybe yes.

But as everyone knows, 99% of the Pat-Downers have the same outlook as Paris Hilton.

So, yeah, FML

My opinion on it? I'd rather get pat down than have my plane fly into a building. Even if some people get singled out for various reasons and have terrible experiences, I honestly feel more sorry for the people doing the pat downs. Thousands of man junk goes through their hands every day.

ITT you only hear about the bad experiences. I flew across the country, double-checked that I would get through the scanner without any trouble, still had to go through a pat down, didn't really bother me and the person doing it was actually very calm about the whole ordeal.