Robotic or cyborg Surrogacy.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
If it was possible to live your life or part of the day inside a fully functional robotic or cyborg copy of yourself.. would you?
Even if it possible in the near future to A. implant my brain or B. remotely control a android of my self.. i wouldn't even do it.. i cherish the ability to walk and talk with my own devices. Why would anyone able bodied want to be a non human entity.
I can see this for a handicapped or the blind/deaf or even the disfigurement person. Soon in real life we will have the full tech of replacing missing limbs and functioning robotic inside those organic body parts. After that organs and hopefully a longer life span. Personally i don't want to live longer then fifty, but the hope is that we'll live longer then what was planned from disease and accidents faults.
Should or would want to live life via robotic eyes and your conciseness inside a chip or via wifi radio waves.. this reeks of neocyber punk manga and movies.
Even if it possible in the near future to A. implant my brain or B. remotely control a android of my self.. i wouldn't even do it.. i cherish the ability to walk and talk with my own devices. Why would anyone able bodied want to be a non human entity.
I can see this for a handicapped or the blind/deaf or even the disfigurement person. Soon in real life we will have the full tech of replacing missing limbs and functioning robotic inside those organic body parts. After that organs and hopefully a longer life span. Personally i don't want to live longer then fifty, but the hope is that we'll live longer then what was planned from disease and accidents faults.
Should or would want to live life via robotic eyes and your conciseness inside a chip or via wifi radio waves.. this reeks of neocyber punk manga and movies.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
Flesh is a relic, a mere vessel. Why would one stick with an outdated artifice when one could be so much more?
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shin609 wrote...
I honestly wouldn't mind, as long as I live a good portion of my human life first.Exactly. I would like to live my human life to the fullest, but i wouldn't mind gaining a sort of immortality through robot surrogacy. I would like to have a surrogate body that could feel things though
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I'm a big fan of cyberpunk books and movies. Though the Bruce Willis movie was a bit meh for me. This kind of thing appeals to me, though not surrogacy so much.
I always pictured it going the route of GitS. Cyborg enhancements and essentially a digital brain. I'd jump at the chance really, but I don't see it happening in my lifetime.
I always pictured it going the route of GitS. Cyborg enhancements and essentially a digital brain. I'd jump at the chance really, but I don't see it happening in my lifetime.
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Sineã®mine
Soba-Scans Staff
After watching Ghost in the Shell?
Well, I don't think so. It's an existential nightmare waiting to happen. There would be SO MANY psychological issues opened up, and it seems like a one-way street; Make the choice and you can't exactly get a normal body back. It would be so hard to make that decision.
Well, I don't think so. It's an existential nightmare waiting to happen. There would be SO MANY psychological issues opened up, and it seems like a one-way street; Make the choice and you can't exactly get a normal body back. It would be so hard to make that decision.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Sineã®mine wrote...
After watching Ghost in the Shell?That and the movie called surrogates.. i just puzzle by people trying to one up nature via surgery or technology.. unless it necessary.. i would like a new pancreas so i can live without insulin. Stuff like being able to walk, talk, see, and replace dying organs are logical to me, but just because you have a size a boobs or a mole or just wanna play inside a robotic shell existence i don't understand.
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Sineã®mine
Soba-Scans Staff
Well, obviously it has a point in some applications. There are LOTS of things you can do with a prosthetic body, basically anything dangerous could be improved by having people doing it in a metal body.
Certainly working in a public security anti-terrorism unit has great advantages to being able to take lots of bullets, be super strong and agile, and being able to, you know, cloak yourself in electronic camo. At least in GitS it was only the rich, powerful, or working for the rich or powerful that had full prosthetics generally.
Surrogates of course was different, but I think it speaks to our need to be perfect. My god, we literally inject a neurotoxin into our faces to avoid wrinkles and have surgeons cut open our body to avoid fat. Luckily with surrogates, you are just temporarily in a fake body, so you can always experience "Real" things too.
Certainly working in a public security anti-terrorism unit has great advantages to being able to take lots of bullets, be super strong and agile, and being able to, you know, cloak yourself in electronic camo. At least in GitS it was only the rich, powerful, or working for the rich or powerful that had full prosthetics generally.
Surrogates of course was different, but I think it speaks to our need to be perfect. My god, we literally inject a neurotoxin into our faces to avoid wrinkles and have surgeons cut open our body to avoid fat. Luckily with surrogates, you are just temporarily in a fake body, so you can always experience "Real" things too.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
Sineã®mine wrote...
After watching Ghost in the Shell?That and the movie called surrogates.. i just puzzle by people trying to one up nature via surgery or technology.. unless it necessary.. i would like a new pancreas so i can live without insulin. Stuff like being able to walk, talk, see, and replace dying organs are logical to me, but just because you have a size a boobs or a mole or just wanna play inside a robotic shell existence i don't understand.
Cosmetic surgery gains popularity every year. What's the difference between a robotic shell and enough plastic surgery to make you a human barbie?
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
You people miss the point. Good cyborg shells won't be robotic... well they won't *seem* robotic. They'll probably have high strength frames instead bones, maybe some form of motors/myomers/tech instead some muscles, but over all that tech... they'll be soft, beautifully sculpted, warm things, essentially tissue tailor made to your wishes. Maybe wholly biological.
There's this joke. Ever want to see, what functional, high sophisticated, wet-nanotech looks like? Look in a mirror.
Nature has already come up with some amazing machines. As technology advances our own machines will be more, not less like living things.
There's this joke. Ever want to see, what functional, high sophisticated, wet-nanotech looks like? Look in a mirror.
Nature has already come up with some amazing machines. As technology advances our own machines will be more, not less like living things.
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Anyone may say they are prepared or ready to die, but when it comes down to the nitty gritty and you're about ready to kick the bucket. You may want to keep living.
Life is short. Why not extend it for a bit more and enjoy robot sex?
Life is short. Why not extend it for a bit more and enjoy robot sex?
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Room101
Waifu Collector
Flaser wrote...
Good cyborg shells won't be robotic... well they won't *seem* robotic. They'll probably have high strength frames instead bones, maybe some form of motors/myomers/tech instead some muscles, but over all that tech... they'll be soft, beautifully sculpted, warm things, essentially tissue tailor made to your wishes. Maybe wholly biological.There's this joke. Ever want to see, what functional, high sophisticated, wet-nanotech looks like? Look in a mirror.
Nature has already come up with some amazing machines. As technology advances our own machines will be more, not less like living things.
Indeed. Biology tends to have most amazing machines, or at least those that are incredibly more efficient then any "mechanical" counterparts.
About the OP, I'd be fine with either idea...why bother having your kidney swapped if you can just get a new body, only better? And all those cross-dressing fantasies...errr, what was I saying? Ah right.
It would certainly be revolutionary technology for everyone, sick, young, old etc. etc. but it would bring a whole score of new problems. For example, how long would you live for? I'm pretty sure that your consciousness would simply start degrading after some point, but you could still live for a few centuries swapping bodies. What would happen then? If mankind would keep breeding, we'd quickly go way overpopulated....but then, we could always grow bodies used to alien environments and just land on Venus, Mars and all the other strange places....eventually...unless we would swamp ourselves first.
And if technology becomes restricted, then we will have the classic "normal human vs. the other guys" cliche.
And a whole new range of security issues. I can only imagine the headache of all intelligence agencies as every spy and terrorist would be able to swap their bodies....how the hell will they ever catch them then?
In short, it's an awesome idea, but I don't think we're ready in any way, shape or form for this.
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I'd do it. Why ? No virus, bacteria or any other illness would be a problem. Lost a limb ? No prob' just replace it instantly. It would be immortality because if you keep a backup of your mind somewhere safe it would be only a lost body, and for robots that's not such a big thing.
I would even go as far as copy my whole mind and store it in a safe place behind several dozen powerful firewalls, than copy it again and let that copy rome the internet. Though, occaisonly update the 1st copy after checking for harmful matter. Why ? It would be fun as hell.
So yeah, I'd do it. I don't have a single problem with it.
I would even go as far as copy my whole mind and store it in a safe place behind several dozen powerful firewalls, than copy it again and let that copy rome the internet. Though, occaisonly update the 1st copy after checking for harmful matter. Why ? It would be fun as hell.
So yeah, I'd do it. I don't have a single problem with it.
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I'd be more into doing something like being able to read my emails/text messages in my head with some sort of computer chip or something.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
TSPenpin wrote...
I'd be more into doing something like being able to read my emails/text messages in my head with some sort of computer chip or something.This is something oft overlooked, hence why I have tendency to call classical cyberjunkies "metalheads", as they're all about stuffing ever more tech into your body, instead augmenting the most important thing: the mind.
The mind machine interface would allow so much more. What if you could not only interface with machines, but directly augment your brain? Memorizing data, recalling stuff with perfect clarity, running data analysis inside your head, seeing in sound, tasting x-rays... all possible and more. But those are just tricks with data... what if you could literally *change* who you are, and not just as a person, but as something more than an instinct driven bio-machine. The potential, to "reprogram yourself" seems limitless.
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Flaser wrote...
TSPenpin wrote...
I'd be more into doing something like being able to read my emails/text messages in my head with some sort of computer chip or something.This is something oft overlooked, hence why I have tendency to call classical cyberjunkies "metalheads", as they're all about stuffing ever more tech into your body, instead augmenting the most important thing: the mind.
The mind machine interface would allow so much more. What if you could not only interface with machines, but directly augment your brain? Memorizing data, recalling stuff with perfect clarity, running data analysis inside your head, seeing in sound, tasting x-rays... all possible and more. But those are just tricks with data... what if you could literally *change* who you are, and not just as a person, but as something more than an instinct driven bio-machine. The potential, to "reprogram yourself" seems limitless.
Then you'd have something like Windows running in your head and then the risk of getting viruses.
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TSPenpin wrote...
Flaser wrote...
TSPenpin wrote...
I'd be more into doing something like being able to read my emails/text messages in my head with some sort of computer chip or something.This is something oft overlooked, hence why I have tendency to call classical cyberjunkies "metalheads", as they're all about stuffing ever more tech into your body, instead augmenting the most important thing: the mind.
The mind machine interface would allow so much more. What if you could not only interface with machines, but directly augment your brain? Memorizing data, recalling stuff with perfect clarity, running data analysis inside your head, seeing in sound, tasting x-rays... all possible and more. But those are just tricks with data... what if you could literally *change* who you are, and not just as a person, but as something more than an instinct driven bio-machine. The potential, to "reprogram yourself" seems limitless.
Then you'd have something like Windows running in your head and then the risk of getting viruses.
Worse would be getting hacked, imagine your own thoughts/memories/etc. being seen by other people.