Should countries legalize prostitution?
Should Prostitution be legalized?
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Well there's the question, should countries legalize Prostitution? Personally I believe it would be for the best because well, it would destroy the majority of Sex Slave Criminal rings (Not all) and it could be heavily taxed so the government could collect taxes from Brothels to supply the military and such.
The way my hypothetical government run Brothels would work is that they would be supplied with money by the government so they can start up (Pay Bouncers, food and buildings and such), and then use volunteer's as Prostitutes (You'd be surprised how many people might actually sign up for it, or give non-violent prisoners the option to sign up and serve their time that way) and then the government could tax the shit out of it, and it's a win/win.
I know in my country (The U.S.) prostitution is legalized in parts of Nevada but I don't believe it works quite the way that I "envision."
The way my hypothetical government run Brothels would work is that they would be supplied with money by the government so they can start up (Pay Bouncers, food and buildings and such), and then use volunteer's as Prostitutes (You'd be surprised how many people might actually sign up for it, or give non-violent prisoners the option to sign up and serve their time that way) and then the government could tax the shit out of it, and it's a win/win.
I know in my country (The U.S.) prostitution is legalized in parts of Nevada but I don't believe it works quite the way that I "envision."
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That's assuming that the people who are currently in the human trafficking trade will go legit.
Why should they, when they will get taxed and their profits hurt? All this does is make an extra layer of uncertainty to the legality of a specific operation.
"Hey, is this brothel legit?"
"Probably, dude, because prostitution is legal."
"I dunno, that chick looks like jailbait. And why is she chained to the bed?"
"Bro, it's roleplaying! Do you really think a girl would let herself be chained like that?"
girl: "Elder brother, no!"
"Man, that's sooo hot."
"..."
It would be like logging locally. A blanket ban on logging means that if you come across a truck with trees in it, that would be illegal shit. However, instead of a total log ban, a loggers are given licenses instead. The result was that illegal loggers were operating along with legal loggers, resulting in an even faster rate of forest denudation. What, you gonna stop every logger in the mountains and see if they have a permit? In fact, it made illegal logging even more profitable, as illegal loggers didn't pay taxes for them while legal loggers did.
Not everything can be compared to the prohibition.
Nevada works, because its a small community compared to an entire country. Permits are easier to monitor. When you make this global, the nooks and crannies of society won't be as carefully watched.
In any case, I _am_ in favor or legalization in specific areas (for the reason stated above -- easier monitoring in specific areas), but not because it can be taxed. Legalization would mean that prostitutes won't be ashamed to look for help, especially medical help, or help from the police when things go sour. Legalization makes women who are legit harder to victimize. As I pointed out, there will still be cases where girls will be forced into it, but even then if they can manage to get out of it they won't be as treated as a badly as prostitutes currently are. Legalizing prostitution in specific areas also means that it will be easier to keep moralfags happy. As long as a brothel isn't showing up beside a school or church, a lot of people wouldn't care. Allowing complete legalization and letting brothels pop up like Starbucks is just asking for trouble.
Why should they, when they will get taxed and their profits hurt? All this does is make an extra layer of uncertainty to the legality of a specific operation.
"Hey, is this brothel legit?"
"Probably, dude, because prostitution is legal."
"I dunno, that chick looks like jailbait. And why is she chained to the bed?"
"Bro, it's roleplaying! Do you really think a girl would let herself be chained like that?"
girl: "Elder brother, no!"
"Man, that's sooo hot."
"..."
It would be like logging locally. A blanket ban on logging means that if you come across a truck with trees in it, that would be illegal shit. However, instead of a total log ban, a loggers are given licenses instead. The result was that illegal loggers were operating along with legal loggers, resulting in an even faster rate of forest denudation. What, you gonna stop every logger in the mountains and see if they have a permit? In fact, it made illegal logging even more profitable, as illegal loggers didn't pay taxes for them while legal loggers did.
Not everything can be compared to the prohibition.
Nevada works, because its a small community compared to an entire country. Permits are easier to monitor. When you make this global, the nooks and crannies of society won't be as carefully watched.
In any case, I _am_ in favor or legalization in specific areas (for the reason stated above -- easier monitoring in specific areas), but not because it can be taxed. Legalization would mean that prostitutes won't be ashamed to look for help, especially medical help, or help from the police when things go sour. Legalization makes women who are legit harder to victimize. As I pointed out, there will still be cases where girls will be forced into it, but even then if they can manage to get out of it they won't be as treated as a badly as prostitutes currently are. Legalizing prostitution in specific areas also means that it will be easier to keep moralfags happy. As long as a brothel isn't showing up beside a school or church, a lot of people wouldn't care. Allowing complete legalization and letting brothels pop up like Starbucks is just asking for trouble.
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I see no reason why legal prostitution would reduce the amount of human trafficking. I'm not very knowledgeable about the subject, but I think that a person wouldn't buy another person simply to have sex a few times. If they just wanted to fuck, they'd go to hookers. Human trafficking and sex slave rings are probably about owning people and being able to do whatever you want with them, including kill them.
Also, I may be reading it the wrong way, but when you say that the prostitutes would be "volunteers," it makes the whole deal sound devious. I wouldn't go to McDonald's and "volunteer" for a job. I would apply for it, and they would hire me. Furthermore, there would be no reason whatsoever for the government to help people start brothels. All the government would have to do is say that prostitution is okay, and a ton of businesses would open up by themselves.
On to the real issue, whether I think the government should legalize prostitution - I wouldn't like it, but I'm not really against it. It wouldn't affect me, quite frankly. I'd hate if a female friend starting working as a legal prostitute, but as things are now, she could legally become a stripper or porn star and I'd be upset, so the legal status of prostitution wouldn't affect that. Same with any other problem I'd have with legal prostitution; people can already do a lot of things that I don't want to know about or don't want to be a part of. But it's not in my face, so it doesn't actually bother me.
The only thing that could potentially happen in regards to legal prostitution that would piss me is if brothels started being advertised during prime time or something (late-night is fine because I already have to ignore the phone sex and Girls Gone Wild commercials at 1am). Even that wouldn't be major, just irksome.
Also, I may be reading it the wrong way, but when you say that the prostitutes would be "volunteers," it makes the whole deal sound devious. I wouldn't go to McDonald's and "volunteer" for a job. I would apply for it, and they would hire me. Furthermore, there would be no reason whatsoever for the government to help people start brothels. All the government would have to do is say that prostitution is okay, and a ton of businesses would open up by themselves.
On to the real issue, whether I think the government should legalize prostitution - I wouldn't like it, but I'm not really against it. It wouldn't affect me, quite frankly. I'd hate if a female friend starting working as a legal prostitute, but as things are now, she could legally become a stripper or porn star and I'd be upset, so the legal status of prostitution wouldn't affect that. Same with any other problem I'd have with legal prostitution; people can already do a lot of things that I don't want to know about or don't want to be a part of. But it's not in my face, so it doesn't actually bother me.
The only thing that could potentially happen in regards to legal prostitution that would piss me is if brothels started being advertised during prime time or something (late-night is fine because I already have to ignore the phone sex and Girls Gone Wild commercials at 1am). Even that wouldn't be major, just irksome.
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I made a topic about this a while ago
Anyways, here is my answer on the subject from that thread
Anyways, here is my answer on the subject from that thread
I personally believe it should be legal. My main reason is that i feel making it illegal has turned it into a much more exploitative industry than it needs to be. With legalization, the government could use regulation to reduce this. With regulation, the power would be in the hands of the prostitute, instead of some so called "pimp."
I mean, porn stars are basically prostitutes, so i don't get why prostitution is illegal while the porn industry continues to grow
I mean, porn stars are basically prostitutes, so i don't get why prostitution is illegal while the porn industry continues to grow
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Legalized--no. Decriminalized--yes. There is a difference, which I'll get into later when I have more time.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Unforced yeah. I see no reason anyone would hurt from legalization of what we do anyways... dating is a form of prostitution already.. it just takes more time to get laid.
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If the prostitute wants to without being forced to by their pimp or anything.
It's on of them things that is less harmless than public smoking, and yet that was legalized for about forever (Not illegal here now, but not really allowed).
It's on of them things that is less harmless than public smoking, and yet that was legalized for about forever (Not illegal here now, but not really allowed).
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I believe that a country to should run like a business. With things like marijuana and prostitution, they should run a split test. Set some goals and see what happens when it gets legalized. If it fails to reach those goals, then change it back to the way it was before.
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You have a very good point. but we as humans have unlimited wants. Once we get used to legalizing prostitution, were eventually going to go crazy trying to expand it, sell more, and possibly do it in illegal ways just to make even more money. Though this would be a great way of keeping money flowing through our economy, it would take alot of initiative and control to even keep a business like this stable. Not to mention that most of the population would frown on prostitution. You'd have to look at it from all the angles. From the sellers, prostitutes, the government, and the buyers. I honestly think the consequences out weigh the benefits.
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Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Because sex is human, because it can be a job that pays, because not all people can have sex when sexually frustrated, it can be monitored in regulation to health, and because it isn't unethical (unless religiously, see marriage).
It's a sin how low people are treating sex right now, it should be far far far more open, and far more naturally accepted.
Long answer: Because sex is human, because it can be a job that pays, because not all people can have sex when sexually frustrated, it can be monitored in regulation to health, and because it isn't unethical (unless religiously, see marriage).
It's a sin how low people are treating sex right now, it should be far far far more open, and far more naturally accepted.
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... you do know that the majority of prostitutes come from human trafficking, illegal immigrants, debt peonage, and such? I don't think there are many legit "I am a prostitute because I like this as my job" women. Porn is one thing, being a prostitute is quite another. Although, if you legalize it and make it work like part of the service industry, then I guess it would be fine?
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PenZBallStomper wrote...
... you do know that the majority of prostitutes come from human trafficking, illegal immigrants, debt peonage, and such? I don't think there are many legit "I am a prostitute because I like this as my job" women. Porn is one thing, being a prostitute is quite another. Although, if you legalize it and make it work like part of the service industry, then I guess it would be fine?I don't know about other countries, but I think in the US, while there are a lot of people being completely abused in the prostitution industry, there are also a lot of women who are doing it by choice, drug addicts especially. If a person wants crack or heroin badly enough, they'll let anybody fuck them, as long as they get paid for it. Also, the brothels in Nevada show that there are a lot of women who want to have sex for money, who try to get into the business.
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Yes it would make it easier to have sex, possibly lower unemployment, and would increase the income from taxes and/or tourism if any one country did it.
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FinalBoss
#levelupyourgrind
Anguis Maestus wrote...
Well there's the question, should countries legalize Prostitution? Personally I believe it would be for the best because well, it would destroy the majority of Sex Slave Criminal rings (Not all) and it could be heavily taxed so the government could collect taxes from Brothels to supply the military and such.The way my hypothetical government run Brothels would work is that they would be supplied with money by the government so they can start up (Pay Bouncers, food and buildings and such), and then use volunteer's as Prostitutes (You'd be surprised how many people might actually sign up for it, or give non-violent prisoners the option to sign up and serve their time that way) and then the government could tax the shit out of it, and it's a win/win.
I know in my country (The U.S.) prostitution is legalized in parts of Nevada but I don't believe it works quite the way that I "envision."
I was leaning towards no at first, but I support your idea since it would benefit the government which in turn would benefit society in general.
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Maybe, it would end up being more about health checks and stuff, before any fun actually happens though.
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I think prostitution is very immoral and detrimental to relationships. I don't think legalizing it will have a positive outcome, though I'm not sure if not legalizing it will make a difference
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I did a presentation in one of my speech classes on this subject, as one of the non-supporters in a group. This person has one of the major points I made covered, up to the last sentence anyway:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/07/usa.gender <-- This link basically has all the reasons why I myself am against it. A huge majority of prostitutes do not want to be prostitutes, they just can't get out for a variety of reasons. The glamorized stuff you see on TV is a tiny fraction who are actually satisfied in being whores. It is shocking how hard it is to actually find any sort of negative articles on the subject because people are really just short sighted or want reliable sex that they can't get elsewhere. Many are blindly for legalization, calling it "victimless crime" and saying people should be free to pay for that like anything else. It's definitely not victimless, and that is what a lot of people don't understand.
On a more personal note, as a woman I would also never date a guy who's been with a prostitute, or strongly supported the legalization of it. Period. I can't see any self respecting woman doing so, but that's just my (somewhat informed and maybe a little feminist) opinion.
PenZBallStomper wrote...
... you do know that the majority of prostitutes come from human trafficking, illegal immigrants, debt peonage, and such? I don't think there are many legit "I am a prostitute because I like this as my job" women. Porn is one thing, being a prostitute is quite another. Although, if you legalize it and make it work like part of the service industry, then I guess it would be fine?http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/07/usa.gender <-- This link basically has all the reasons why I myself am against it. A huge majority of prostitutes do not want to be prostitutes, they just can't get out for a variety of reasons. The glamorized stuff you see on TV is a tiny fraction who are actually satisfied in being whores. It is shocking how hard it is to actually find any sort of negative articles on the subject because people are really just short sighted or want reliable sex that they can't get elsewhere. Many are blindly for legalization, calling it "victimless crime" and saying people should be free to pay for that like anything else. It's definitely not victimless, and that is what a lot of people don't understand.
On a more personal note, as a woman I would also never date a guy who's been with a prostitute, or strongly supported the legalization of it. Period. I can't see any self respecting woman doing so, but that's just my (somewhat informed and maybe a little feminist) opinion.
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Porn is one thing, being a prostitute is quite another.
I don't think there is such a major difference between the to. In both you are having sex for money, its just in one you are doing on video. I see no reason to let porn be a industry, and make prostitution illegal.
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aristana wrote...
I did a presentation in one of my speech classes on this subject, as one of the non-supporters in a group. This person has one of the major points I made covered, up to the last sentence anyway:PenZBallStomper wrote...
... you do know that the majority of prostitutes come from human trafficking, illegal immigrants, debt peonage, and such? I don't think there are many legit "I am a prostitute because I like this as my job" women. Porn is one thing, being a prostitute is quite another. Although, if you legalize it and make it work like part of the service industry, then I guess it would be fine?http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/07/usa.gender <-- This link basically has all the reasons why I myself am against it. A huge majority of prostitutes do not want to be prostitutes, they just can't get out for a variety of reasons. The glamorized stuff you see on TV is a tiny fraction who are actually satisfied in being whores. It is shocking how hard it is to actually find any sort of negative articles on the subject because people are really just short sighted or want reliable sex that they can't get elsewhere. Many are blindly for legalization, calling it "victimless crime" and saying people should be free to pay for that like anything else. It's definitely not victimless, and that is what a lot of people don't understand.
On a more personal note, as a woman I would also never date a guy who's been with a prostitute, or strongly supported the legalization of it. Period. I can't see any self respecting woman doing so, but that's just my (somewhat informed and maybe a little feminist) opinion.
Legalization only truly works if properly regulated. For example, there is a big problem with people abusing prescription medicine because there are a lot of doctors that care more about making money than obeying the rules (though some fault should be placed on those that get medicine they don't need and sell it).
In the article you linked to, I didn't find any reason for why the girls in those horrible conditions didn't simply quit. If someone treated me like shit at my job, I would quit; that is my legal right. If the brothel owners wouldn't let the girls quit, then it's not really a legal brothel; it's just an illegal one masquerading as a legal one. In fact, considering the conditions of the places mentioned in the article, they shouldn't be legal. They should be shut down, like a restaurant that has roaches running around on the stoves and mice chewing on the food in the pantries.
It is the government's job to confirm that the certified brothels are run legally and follow the standards set. If the government fails to do that, then people can suffer, but they don't suffer because something is or isn't legal. They suffer because people have broken the rules. After all, a lot of people are killed in car wrecks because at least one person was drunk, but you cannot blame those deaths on the fact that alcohol is legal.