Suicide & Euthanasia
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@crimsonfox:
i don't get the whole meaning of what you're asking about? But i'll responds :)
1st there are no such thing as physically depressed, depression is one of the mental dissorder
2nd not all people who depressed have a suicidal thought, so yeah some of them may still have will to life (i assume you misused word will with lust)
as in depressed state, people can be overtly euphoria or apathy..
i don't get the whole meaning of what you're asking about? But i'll responds :)
1st there are no such thing as physically depressed, depression is one of the mental dissorder
2nd not all people who depressed have a suicidal thought, so yeah some of them may still have will to life (i assume you misused word will with lust)
as in depressed state, people can be overtly euphoria or apathy..
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Deftera wrote...
I don't like it. It's basically running away from your problems. Not just your problems but any chance to be happy ever again. There are other ways to run away from something, killing yourself is just dumb.MSN's Today had people who suicided due to the fact of constant bullying, a foreign exchange student's body was in a casket, and the girls who mocked her laughed at her. They knew she were dead.
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A lonely suicide is for cowards. That's what I think after considering it many times. I don't think that life is always the right choice however, and personally hate everyone who pities those who commit suicide. Life is not always the right answer, but dying alone like that makes you scum. To die simply to die is as pointless as living simply because you live. It feels, to me, such cases are a mockery of the power of a life. Rather than the roaring flame that eventually is extinguished it is like a smoldering spark that finally dies out.
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IMO suicide is really just running away from reality. They're the weak-willed people who seemingly have no friends or people who understand them. Though I think it's 'cause their mental and emotional stability is very weak.
As for euthanasia, I think it's acceptable for the most part. I mean, if you were dying and were in pain, you wouldn't want to go through all that suffering.
As for euthanasia, I think it's acceptable for the most part. I mean, if you were dying and were in pain, you wouldn't want to go through all that suffering.
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Suicide is something I have dealt with myself on more than one occasion and even contemplated once, but thats another story. In the suicidal party's view they do it because they have no other way out, in their head there is nothing else left but death, either because they are mentally weak or suffering some form of phychological or physical pain. I was considering suicide because I was weak, in the end I didnt do it because to be completely honest I was too scared to die. Obviously I'm glad I didn't but I can understand why someone would want to, although yes it is a selfish thing to do I think its a catch 22, on one hand you have the "easy way out" and on the other you have all the people that care about you and the people that would have to get rid of your dead body (for all you know your mother or father or younger sister could find you). As for the "should it be made legal argument?" Wouldn't make a differece in my opinion, although the only thing that might change is that people could start to say that rather than commiting murder they "helped the person commit suicide" and knowing the justice system of Great Britan people would probably get away with it.
If anyone here does consider it just take that extra day to talk to someone, even if it is a random person online (because they can't really judge you as they dont know you) and there are loads of support websites and phone centres and the like.
If anyone here does consider it just take that extra day to talk to someone, even if it is a random person online (because they can't really judge you as they dont know you) and there are loads of support websites and phone centres and the like.
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Suicide is a touchy subject depending on the situation you are in. Under minor circumstances, suicide is a "cowards's way out" of a problem. This is for people who cannot face reality or cope with their problems, it does take a strong person to over come these obstacles, but thats "life". But put into a situation where you are completely helpless and there is completely nothing to live for or nothing you can do to support your well-being, then it would be a plausible excuse to end your life.
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There's a wide range of view when it comes to suicide (Yes, this is the understatement of the century).
For Catholics, to commit suicide is an insult to god, and is rewarded with eternal damnation.
For Samurai, seppuku was viewed as honorable if done so to avoid the shame of defeat and capture.
I think suicide definitely is a method of running away from your problems. You're running away from life. You don't want to deal with it or can't. However, suicide isn't a bad thing merely because of that fact.
People who commit suicide are definitely not selfish. I completely agree with LostQuartet; they think their deaths will benefit those they care about.
Also, you make suicide illegal in case they fail, so you can charge them with something afterwards and get them legal help.
For Catholics, to commit suicide is an insult to god, and is rewarded with eternal damnation.
For Samurai, seppuku was viewed as honorable if done so to avoid the shame of defeat and capture.
I think suicide definitely is a method of running away from your problems. You're running away from life. You don't want to deal with it or can't. However, suicide isn't a bad thing merely because of that fact.
People who commit suicide are definitely not selfish. I completely agree with LostQuartet; they think their deaths will benefit those they care about.
Also, you make suicide illegal in case they fail, so you can charge them with something afterwards and get them legal help.
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It seems that suicide is tied to ones belief.
In reality, Suicide is just another way to die. If you think it's stupid, scum, etc then it's your problem.
In reality, Suicide is just another way to die. If you think it's stupid, scum, etc then it's your problem.
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Even though personally I'm against suicide, I believe every person has the right to decide how to live their life. We all have our demons to bear, some more than others, so we can't decide for them, because we don't know or understand what they're going or have gone through. All we can do is to support them through their crisis the best we can, and hope that it helps ease their pain. Life is tough, and no one wants to live in misery and pain, so it all comes down to choice.
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I dont like suicide.
I hope all people that are contemplating suicide,
Think of those people with cancer.
There are people who are about to die due to AIDS, HIV, Cancer, Leukemia etc,
And they are fighting so hard just to stay alive.
They will be overjoyed just to have one more day to stay alive
Yet, Suiciders just throw their lives away like that.
Makes me very sad.
=(
On a different note...
BEEAAAUUUUUUUTIFUL GIRL,
YOU'LL HAVE ME SUICIDAL, SUICIDAL,
WHEN YOU SAY IT'S OOOOOOVVVEEEEER!
~
I hope all people that are contemplating suicide,
Think of those people with cancer.
There are people who are about to die due to AIDS, HIV, Cancer, Leukemia etc,
And they are fighting so hard just to stay alive.
They will be overjoyed just to have one more day to stay alive
Yet, Suiciders just throw their lives away like that.
Makes me very sad.
=(
On a different note...
BEEAAAUUUUUUUTIFUL GIRL,
YOU'LL HAVE ME SUICIDAL, SUICIDAL,
WHEN YOU SAY IT'S OOOOOOVVVEEEEER!
~
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to me death is always a option, sure its a bit scary but most times when people choose to commit suicide its to end sufforing, weither its there own or someone elses. so in retrospect there doing either themselfs or someone else a favour. some people say its running away but I think weve been trained to think that by all the media, our teaching in schools and the amount of therapy the country goes though. when a situation is hopeless, as in no chance of succsess whatsoever. id do it. I mean id try a few times just for the hell of it to say I did but id only be going through the moptions. and as to kids who end up commiting suicide do to abuse, weither parental or recived at school. I firmly belive that it should be treated as a murder case. sure they may not be the one tieing the rope pulling the triget or sliding the knife, but without them it would have never come to that. so therefore they are responsible. and as for suicide being a crime. I honest to god want to shoot whoever came up with that idea.
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rueaku wrote...
A lonely suicide is for cowards.that's why if i do it, it will be in a public place(not around kids though).
i'd like to see some kind of orginized system to counsel and try to help people deal with their issues. and if after taht the person is still determined, doctor assisted suicide to make sure it's done right. botched suicides can be very traumatic for emergency and medical people(paramedic, nurse, doctor).
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suicide are weak people who runs from reality I may say this world is cruel but I always think about this. did the chopping of head happened to me? no. did the shotgun in the face incident happened to me? no. torture,accidents no nothing happened to me I may got robbed and holdap in the past but that made me learn and become more alert and intelligent I once read an article saying a stupid person learns from his/her mistake a intelligent one learn from other peoples mistakes so when you think about it what are learn from people that commits suicides that the world forgets them and after a few years no one even gives a damn because committing suicide is running away. maybe someone will ask me what's the difference of committing suicide than being dead. there's a hole lot of difference! (example:) dying in the line of your work (soldiers) they have a grave stone 2. contributing to mankind. whether its entertaining or creating something or empowering a nation you will not be forgotten that easily just like the pyramids of Egypt. second I do believe if you commit suicide you'll go to hell because that's just running away but if your in a situation that you need to commit suicide to save the earth or your love ones I think it's acceptable because you didn't want to die right? and more of it just think about the leapers and beggars the people who has more difficult situation than you just think about it! they want to survive! and you! a person that can eat three times a day wants to commit suicide?! come on.. well that's about it! :D
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I believe that people have the freedom/right to do whatever they want as long as they don’t interfere with someone else’s freedoms/ rights or physically harm anyone. I personally like suicide because if you don’t want to live or be productive you don’t need to stick around. We have so many humans on this planet, our numbers are expected to reach 8 billion by 2028, that I don’t see the significance in a few people dying early. I personally plan on committing suicide in 2 years. I have been thinking about this since elementary school, now I think about ending my life every day. I’m not depressed, my life is awesome, I’m not afraid of the future, but I just don’t have any goals or reason to stay. I don’t want to get married (reproduce) or work myself to death. I’m just not a happy person and that’s not going to change. Is it wrong for me to want to die? I did not ask to live. Let’s leave God out of this.
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Sorry to seem like a freaky terrorist, but if I were to commit suicide I would be taking down other people with me.
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goodshit wrote...
Sorry to seem like a freaky terrorist, but if I were to commit suicide I would be taking down other people with me.i always kind of wanted to jump off a building and land on a stupid person.
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Suicide is the act of deliberately taking one's own life. Suicidal behavior is any deliberate action with potentially life-threatening consequences, such as taking a drug overdose or deliberately crashing a car.
People who attempt suicide are often trying to get away from a life situation that seems impossible to deal with. Many who make a suicide attempt are seeking relief from:
†¢Bad thoughts or feelings
†¢Feeling ashamed, guilty, or like a burden to others
an other sorts of thing i have always wanted to hang my self with barb wire
People who attempt suicide are often trying to get away from a life situation that seems impossible to deal with. Many who make a suicide attempt are seeking relief from:
†¢Bad thoughts or feelings
†¢Feeling ashamed, guilty, or like a burden to others
an other sorts of thing i have always wanted to hang my self with barb wire
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RealityBell wrote...
suicide are weak people who runs from reality I may say this world is cruel but I always think about this. did the chopping of head happened to me? no. did the shotgun in the face incident happened to me? no. torture,accidents no nothing happened to me I may got robbed and holdap in the past but that made me learn and become more alert and intelligent I once read an article saying a stupid person learns from his/her mistake a intelligent one learn from other peoples mistakes so when you think about it what are learn from people that commits suicides that the world forgets them and after a few years no one even gives a damn because committing suicide is running away. maybe someone will ask me what's the difference of committing suicide than being dead. there's a hole lot of difference! (example:) dying in the line of your work (soldiers) they have a grave stone 2. contributing to mankind. whether its entertaining or creating something or empowering a nation you will not be forgotten that easily just like the pyramids of Egypt. second I do believe if you commit suicide you'll go to hell because that's just running away but if your in a situation that you need to commit suicide to save the earth or your love ones I think it's acceptable because you didn't want to die right? and more of it just think about the leapers and beggars the people who has more difficult situation than you just think about it! they want to survive! and you! a person that can eat three times a day wants to commit suicide?! come on.. well that's about it! :D
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what a controversial & interesting topic!
I was depressed for a while during first two years of my college because a lot of shit was happening. However, I never had the urge to harm myself. I simply thought, "aw man, it would be so simple if i wasn't born in this world" or "I wish I went to a deep sleep and never wake up."
However, it was this period of time that really made me realize and understand that people can become suicidal and take their lives. During high school, I knew couple of people who were feeling suicidal; a girl who cut her wrists and another girl whose younger brother committed suicide. Man, I was so ignorant back then, because I couldn't comprehend the possibility of killing yourself/ the pain they go through without being able to talk to anyone; BECAUSE they DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I see a lot of people claiming that suicide is "selfish" or "cowardly." You are right in some parts, but you should consider the people's situation (background, income, mental/physical condition, family problems, etc) before categorizing suicide as purely negative/pathetic act.
Suicide is such a lonely condition. But then again, we are born alone, and perish alone.
I was depressed for a while during first two years of my college because a lot of shit was happening. However, I never had the urge to harm myself. I simply thought, "aw man, it would be so simple if i wasn't born in this world" or "I wish I went to a deep sleep and never wake up."
However, it was this period of time that really made me realize and understand that people can become suicidal and take their lives. During high school, I knew couple of people who were feeling suicidal; a girl who cut her wrists and another girl whose younger brother committed suicide. Man, I was so ignorant back then, because I couldn't comprehend the possibility of killing yourself/ the pain they go through without being able to talk to anyone; BECAUSE they DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I see a lot of people claiming that suicide is "selfish" or "cowardly." You are right in some parts, but you should consider the people's situation (background, income, mental/physical condition, family problems, etc) before categorizing suicide as purely negative/pathetic act.
Suicide is such a lonely condition. But then again, we are born alone, and perish alone.