Terrorists suck at what they do?
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I don't mean to be offensive or support terrorism or anything like that. Far from it...
But I can't help thinking that the threat terrorism poses is very small. It seems to me that those wishing to kill us are doing a damn awful job. Every day, the media tells us how easy it is to illegally transport stuff into the country, how simple it is to obtain materials for a dirty bomb, etc. Even with recent tightening in security, if you look around in public places, security is still pretty loose. You'd think that if anti-US sentiments were so high, that more attacks would take place.
Is this a sign that the amount of Middle Easterners who share extremists values is smaller than it appears to us?
Your thoughts?
But I can't help thinking that the threat terrorism poses is very small. It seems to me that those wishing to kill us are doing a damn awful job. Every day, the media tells us how easy it is to illegally transport stuff into the country, how simple it is to obtain materials for a dirty bomb, etc. Even with recent tightening in security, if you look around in public places, security is still pretty loose. You'd think that if anti-US sentiments were so high, that more attacks would take place.
Is this a sign that the amount of Middle Easterners who share extremists values is smaller than it appears to us?
Your thoughts?
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tswarthog
The Iconoclast
If terrorists are very uncoordinated, lack training, and just overall never accomplish the job I see that as a benefit. Most terrorists do in fact suck at what they attempt to do (when you see them going to jail for an attempt) and that is good...just look at what happens when they a few terrorists don't suck at what they try to accomplish.
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With what tswarthog said only America managed to really keep coordinated and had some training and we were basically founded on terrorism :lol: but no one really wants to look at our founding that way so it's pretty sad.
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_Raven_ wrote...
With what tswarthog said only America managed to really keep coordinated and had some training and we were basically founded on terrorism :lol: but no one really wants to look at our founding that way so it's pretty sad.Ben Franklin would've found Osama by now IMO, then raped him to prove a point. that's the kind of badassery the founding fathers had in them.
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I was watching this movie by Michael Moore called 'Bowling for Columbine'. it was a pretty good movie, well it said that the American government trained Osama Bin Ladin the ways of the CIA to take out i think it was Saddam Hussein. It also said that the government also gave him and his group like several million dollars and weapons to get him. So I was like to my friend next to me, 'So its the Americans fault that they terrorists have all those weapons that they have?', and then he told me all this stuff which i forgot. So yeah, I don't think they "suck" but maybe their just bad at planning their attacks, because not all the stuff they do fails.
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I haven't seen god tier trolls since the fuckers who demolished the world trade center on 9/11. People were scared shitless.
Now the way you make it sound, our media is the troll (terrorist) nowadays. Pretty amusing.
Now the way you make it sound, our media is the troll (terrorist) nowadays. Pretty amusing.
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Organized crime is waaaay better, until something goes wrong.
Terrorism is lame, Guerrilla warfare should be the way of today.
Terrorism is lame, Guerrilla warfare should be the way of today.
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They realy suck at what they do , the proof they needed the help from your own gouverment to destroy the world trade center :P (ok this only a conspiracy theory but i truly beleive in it ...)
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Most media outlets are guilty of dramatizing their reports since that's how they get viewers and ratings. I agree with you there on that point. But to go so far as to say that the threat terrorism poses is small, what after the attempted NY Times Square bombing, is pretty foolish. Take a look at just how much funding has been poured into national defense programs since the beginning of this decade. That the government is taking this threat so seriously is proof that it is no small matter.
Terrorism is lame, Guerrilla warfare should be the way of today.
It already is.
otakumax wrote...
Organized crime is waaaay better, until something goes wrong.Terrorism is lame, Guerrilla warfare should be the way of today.
It already is.
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They are lame...that's why they are called terrorists....not special ops or chaos inducer or whatever sounds cool....
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Terrorist just lack the intelligence and the ability to deal with Americans for a set enough time to construct said dirty bomb. And yes they suck.
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If they show their number or show their action publicly then it REALLY means that they are sucks ...
Terrorist still terrorist ..
their attempt to bomb some landmarks here is very intriguing , killing hundreds of people and they succeed
are they sucks ? NO
Whatever it is , we don't know the real situation .. we are just watching them in TV .. unless you are one of army that have to go to Afghanistan or any other country that suspected and face to face with them
My answer is abstain considering this topic.
Terrorist still terrorist ..
their attempt to bomb some landmarks here is very intriguing , killing hundreds of people and they succeed
are they sucks ? NO
Whatever it is , we don't know the real situation .. we are just watching them in TV .. unless you are one of army that have to go to Afghanistan or any other country that suspected and face to face with them
My answer is abstain considering this topic.
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Kind of Important
A ray of Tsunlight.
Oh yes.
Let's get our logic from the media, and movies. (Anything with that fuck Moore in it, or in any way related to it is garbage.)
The few who succeed do enough damage.
Let's get our logic from the media, and movies. (Anything with that fuck Moore in it, or in any way related to it is garbage.)
The few who succeed do enough damage.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
Ever since the Cold War ended the quality of terrorism is in decline. With no superpower to arm and train them (against the other super power and its client states) their methods have become cruder and the quality of men have degraded.
Terrorists face a double-edged dilemma: to be effective they need organization and various talents. However the more organized they get, the higher the chances of being discovered and infiltrated.
All in all I wouldn't say that terrorism has become more sophisticated or effective over the last 20 years - in the places where it happens more it is usually highly overlapped with defensive guerrilla warfare - whereas we see less and less effective international offensive efforts like 9/11.
...the main problem though is that the western world is hooked on fear and the media plays it up to eleven. Our leaders also exploit the situation the grab ever more power under the pretext of security. Terrorism has also become a buzzword and an easy reason to deal harshly and dumbly with complicated situations. It was never well defined to begin with and one man's freedom fighter is another's bloody terrorist:

...so your picture about what is terrorism, what is actually effective against it is likely really opaque and fuzzy. In the place of concise judgment and honest measures we have a massive security theater that's meant to convince us that those in power are doing *something* and to make us *feel* secure (but actually do little to make us more secure than we would be in the first place).
The greatest problem with this theater is that we're achieving the objective of the terrorist for them instead combating it.
Terrorists face a double-edged dilemma: to be effective they need organization and various talents. However the more organized they get, the higher the chances of being discovered and infiltrated.
All in all I wouldn't say that terrorism has become more sophisticated or effective over the last 20 years - in the places where it happens more it is usually highly overlapped with defensive guerrilla warfare - whereas we see less and less effective international offensive efforts like 9/11.
...the main problem though is that the western world is hooked on fear and the media plays it up to eleven. Our leaders also exploit the situation the grab ever more power under the pretext of security. Terrorism has also become a buzzword and an easy reason to deal harshly and dumbly with complicated situations. It was never well defined to begin with and one man's freedom fighter is another's bloody terrorist:
...so your picture about what is terrorism, what is actually effective against it is likely really opaque and fuzzy. In the place of concise judgment and honest measures we have a massive security theater that's meant to convince us that those in power are doing *something* and to make us *feel* secure (but actually do little to make us more secure than we would be in the first place).
The greatest problem with this theater is that we're achieving the objective of the terrorist for them instead combating it.
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Well that's terrorist for you, but sometime they can really strike all that fear into someone heads. In turns, causeing phycological fear amongst the people in that terrorist cell's area. Still if they were to become a more organize, that will strike fear into any country...
Now they becoming more intelligine, using the net as a propoganda to recruit and organize attack's and so on. Well, that's just means all they are evoloving to changes and will not stick to the old way of randomly attacking.
Now they becoming more intelligine, using the net as a propoganda to recruit and organize attack's and so on. Well, that's just means all they are evoloving to changes and will not stick to the old way of randomly attacking.
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Room101
Waifu Collector
Well some terrorists are just plain silly, while others are scary as fuck.
There will always be some wannabes that think that by constructing a simple bomb from an internet design and putting it in the car they are next "master terrorist". There are also professionals, who work on something when they know that they can pull it off and prepare their attacks with frightful precision and dedication.
Overall, I'd say they're about average. Some pull of horrible shit (World Trade Center, Madrid, London), some fail horribly (the plot to blow up airplanes with bombs using liquids or something, a while back). Underestimating them however, would be a huge mistake. World had already done that one time too many.
And sadly, they're learning from their mistakes. At least some do. And I hope they get killed before they have the chance to use that knowledge. Or that security agencies will be one step ahead for a change.
There will always be some wannabes that think that by constructing a simple bomb from an internet design and putting it in the car they are next "master terrorist". There are also professionals, who work on something when they know that they can pull it off and prepare their attacks with frightful precision and dedication.
Overall, I'd say they're about average. Some pull of horrible shit (World Trade Center, Madrid, London), some fail horribly (the plot to blow up airplanes with bombs using liquids or something, a while back). Underestimating them however, would be a huge mistake. World had already done that one time too many.
And sadly, they're learning from their mistakes. At least some do. And I hope they get killed before they have the chance to use that knowledge. Or that security agencies will be one step ahead for a change.
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I think you're making a mistake somewhere in your process of thoughts. Terrorists are usually not out to "kill everyone" like some seem to think, terrorism is just a mean to invoke fear, terror (which is why it is called terror-ism) and displeasure to the general public against their government that is incapable of defending protecting them.
Seems to work pretty well imo, seeing how America shit their pants every time a firecracker does off.
Seems to work pretty well imo, seeing how America shit their pants every time a firecracker does off.