Theory of Universal Illusion
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First off, I would like to point out that much that I'm going to explain to you in this thread is complete madness, I could not sleep a few nights ago and thought up of an insane theory of how the universe works, and an explanation for death. Do try to prove anything you find in this thread wrong, I look forward to talking about it. Take note, I do not believe most of what I'm about to write, I just want to talk about it because it's just that crazy.
The Theory:
-Every person, animal or being in your existence is a materialized illusion that is created based on the actual thing, however the real person/creature is living in a whole different form of existence.
-According to this theory, any of you who are going to respond to this thread or anybody or anything that occurs is merely a perfect projection of what or who it really is. This is not saying that you don't exist, just that your an illusion in everyone else's reality. You may have a missing eye in my world, but perfectly fine in yours, if we ever met, you would be meeting your universes projection of me
-The Universe uses the same template to create every living things world, and when something huge happens (lets say a tsunami) every survivor around the world will experience in there universe the same thing... except those who were killed, in there world they survived the event. Also, major achievements accomplished (or even minor ones) will sometimes stick with new universes being generated, which is why so many things are pre-generated upon your creation
-You can not die, the universe has created death as a way to filter out illusions when they are no longer needed. Your existence is immortal (prove me wrong your alive). When you witness something die, it has been cleared from your world, you will grow old however never actually die, and grow to be the oldest living thing ever. However, in there world things happened very differently, and it could be you who has passed away, and you will die of old age, however your life will never know about it. There could at this moment be millions of universal scenarios which you are not even a part of, however your universe will always consider you alive.
- This theory brings much insane content, basically, you can't commit suicide. Something will always save you or protect you. You could even jump from a building and wouldn't die. Those who die, are not real. crazy right?
-Hell and Heaven could be described as the counter suffering/happiness that you get from living forever. There could be different approaches to this, however there's no way to know for sure as in my reality I am currently extremely young (judging that life is never ending) None of are realities can really have old people as there not immortal. Only we can experience true old age.
- Reproduction according to this illusion theory is quite twisted, you mate with an illusion of course (according to the before content) however your child from the earliest stage of its existence will immediately enter its own universe, basically your actions may impact the child, but you will see your kids die before you. However, in there world, they become basically what you are, immortal. There parent would be a mirrored projection of what you really are, except your not entirely real, just a perfect believable copy.
Additional Comments:
Is there a point were you do die? I have no clue, but this theory may be crazy, but I could not find a reason why it could be impossible.
Perhaps some kind of a matrix style thing occurred and were all trapped in our own minds or something. If not, I'm interested in talking about what this might mean if it were actually true, or why it couldn't
The Theory:
-Every person, animal or being in your existence is a materialized illusion that is created based on the actual thing, however the real person/creature is living in a whole different form of existence.
-According to this theory, any of you who are going to respond to this thread or anybody or anything that occurs is merely a perfect projection of what or who it really is. This is not saying that you don't exist, just that your an illusion in everyone else's reality. You may have a missing eye in my world, but perfectly fine in yours, if we ever met, you would be meeting your universes projection of me
-The Universe uses the same template to create every living things world, and when something huge happens (lets say a tsunami) every survivor around the world will experience in there universe the same thing... except those who were killed, in there world they survived the event. Also, major achievements accomplished (or even minor ones) will sometimes stick with new universes being generated, which is why so many things are pre-generated upon your creation
-You can not die, the universe has created death as a way to filter out illusions when they are no longer needed. Your existence is immortal (prove me wrong your alive). When you witness something die, it has been cleared from your world, you will grow old however never actually die, and grow to be the oldest living thing ever. However, in there world things happened very differently, and it could be you who has passed away, and you will die of old age, however your life will never know about it. There could at this moment be millions of universal scenarios which you are not even a part of, however your universe will always consider you alive.
- This theory brings much insane content, basically, you can't commit suicide. Something will always save you or protect you. You could even jump from a building and wouldn't die. Those who die, are not real. crazy right?
-Hell and Heaven could be described as the counter suffering/happiness that you get from living forever. There could be different approaches to this, however there's no way to know for sure as in my reality I am currently extremely young (judging that life is never ending) None of are realities can really have old people as there not immortal. Only we can experience true old age.
- Reproduction according to this illusion theory is quite twisted, you mate with an illusion of course (according to the before content) however your child from the earliest stage of its existence will immediately enter its own universe, basically your actions may impact the child, but you will see your kids die before you. However, in there world, they become basically what you are, immortal. There parent would be a mirrored projection of what you really are, except your not entirely real, just a perfect believable copy.
Additional Comments:
Is there a point were you do die? I have no clue, but this theory may be crazy, but I could not find a reason why it could be impossible.
Perhaps some kind of a matrix style thing occurred and were all trapped in our own minds or something. If not, I'm interested in talking about what this might mean if it were actually true, or why it couldn't
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theres no reason anything couldn't be true only theories really exist and are considered the truth due to repeated phenomenon's.. like when you jump you come back to the earth and thus gravity must exist but does it? illusion theories are rather popular among a lot of scientists and if your crazy theory really was reality that would be pretty.. crazy i think XD but with everything i believe there must be some kind of death so maybe there would be room in your theory for death like a sorta evolution you don't really die you transcend reality to realize the truth of your illusion. anyways just rambling on my own theories very interesting idea though :P
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Well, there is a certain truth to saying that our experience of things is illusory. Everything goes through the filter of one's own perception, and that distills and distorts things into how we actually experience them.
It's a bit strange to think about, but the world as we experience it is greatly different from what actually is, in any real, objective sense. Our senses get raw information that is then processed into a format we can understand and use. It could be seen as a tool of evolution; we experience things in a way more pertinent to our survival. Things of relevancy stand out, and less important things are easily ignored or overlooked.
And not just that. Our entire understanding and experience of things is based on our senses, which are not necessarily direct representations of what is.
As for the more philosophical side of things, I've heard all sorts of crazy ideas about what 'is.' Some people believe that we never left a singularity, and everything that is is comprised of the collective consciousness of mankind. They believe the universe around us is just a construct of our minds for us to live out, but nothing is actually here, it's all just sort of... a common dream.
Whatever people think, no one is close to omniscience, so such profound things, while interesting, are far from being solved.
It's a bit strange to think about, but the world as we experience it is greatly different from what actually is, in any real, objective sense. Our senses get raw information that is then processed into a format we can understand and use. It could be seen as a tool of evolution; we experience things in a way more pertinent to our survival. Things of relevancy stand out, and less important things are easily ignored or overlooked.
And not just that. Our entire understanding and experience of things is based on our senses, which are not necessarily direct representations of what is.
As for the more philosophical side of things, I've heard all sorts of crazy ideas about what 'is.' Some people believe that we never left a singularity, and everything that is is comprised of the collective consciousness of mankind. They believe the universe around us is just a construct of our minds for us to live out, but nothing is actually here, it's all just sort of... a common dream.
Whatever people think, no one is close to omniscience, so such profound things, while interesting, are far from being solved.
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Came here expecting an intelligent discussion of Holographic Priciple. Was disappointed by the nonsense.
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This seems more like a hypothesis than a theory.
Ah.... after skimming a bit on your 'theories' i think they aren't theories or hypotheses.
i think they're just stuff that came out of your imagination. it's interesting. but pretty exotic, too.
Ah.... after skimming a bit on your 'theories' i think they aren't theories or hypotheses.
i think they're just stuff that came out of your imagination. it's interesting. but pretty exotic, too.
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GroverCleaveland wrote...
Came here expecting an intelligent discussion of Holographic Priciple. Was disappointed by the nonsense. What, you mean the way the entire universe is just a vast expanse of black paper and black holes are "balls" put onto the paper?
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Bluegameroyon wrote...
This seems more like a hypothesis than a theory.Ah.... after skimming a bit on your 'theories' i think they aren't theories or hypotheses.
i think they're just stuff that came out of your imagination. it's interesting. but pretty exotic, too.
Yea basically, hopefully it's not to bothersome if I'm not using perfect terms.
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
Until you have some method/argument to show how this might even be true, it has no value whatsoever. Not SD material imo. :(
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Bluegameroyon wrote...
This seems more like a hypothesis than a theory.Ah.... after skimming a bit on your 'theories' i think they aren't theories or hypotheses.
i think they're just stuff that came out of your imagination. it's interesting. but pretty exotic, too.
I originally was going to say something, but then I figured this was more philosophy than science, and the world 'theory' does not have the same meaning in both. In philosophy the term can be used to describe thoughts or ideas in a pretty general way.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
Sounds like the op is trying to discuss something that is similar to the Idealism Theory in perception.
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definitely some abstract thinking.... I could comprehend some of it but not all of it. This kind of thinking is great for making stories though. Have you ever considered writing a story?
Also to everyone else commenting, the definition of theory that I think op is using is not a scientific one but this one:
-An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/theory
I guess you can stretch the word how ever you want. I'm not gonna criticize, just help.
Also to everyone else commenting, the definition of theory that I think op is using is not a scientific one but this one:
-An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/theory
I guess you can stretch the word how ever you want. I'm not gonna criticize, just help.
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Girlfountain wrote...
The Theory:
-Every person, animal or being in your existence is a materialized illusion that is created based on the actual thing, however the real person/creature is living in a whole different form of existence.
-According to this theory, any of you who are going to respond to this thread or anybody or anything that occurs is merely a perfect projection of what or who it really is. This is not saying that you don't exist, just that your an illusion in everyone else's reality. You may have a missing eye in my world, but perfectly fine in yours, if we ever met, you would be meeting your universes projection of me
So,in this tid-bit what your saying is that each and every person has a different view of someone else?
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Peace-Sama wrote...
Girlfountain wrote...
The Theory:
-Every person, animal or being in your existence is a materialized illusion that is created based on the actual thing, however the real person/creature is living in a whole different form of existence.
-According to this theory, any of you who are going to respond to this thread or anybody or anything that occurs is merely a perfect projection of what or who it really is. This is not saying that you don't exist, just that your an illusion in everyone else's reality. You may have a missing eye in my world, but perfectly fine in yours, if we ever met, you would be meeting your universes projection of me
So,in this tid-bit what your saying is that each and every person has a different view of someone else?
Think of it this way, our TRUE selves are only in our universe. When you encounter us in your universe, it is just our illusion, we are "real" like everything else in said universe, but not our TRUE selves. Our true selves are on separate universes.
Another example, GirlFountain's universe has her thinking of this idea, so she posts it on her universe's FAKKU website. That whole process is then copied to our universes and we see it. In my universe I see certain responses, but in your universe you will see other responses and GirlFountain's universe will have different responses.
In a sense, it is like asking the same question on five different websites, you will get different answers in total, you MIGHT get similar answers, but not 100% the same overall.
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I for one prefer Chaos;Head's theory the universe is only a total recombinate group perception and that true belief can warp and distort what is normal in everyone's reality if they are forced to believe it or the stream of consciousness is distorted to make things appear that way.
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Hmm, didn't the "Twilight Zone" have something like this in one of their episodes?
Yes they did, or at least something like it. A man stands trial for murder that he claims he did not commit. He later explains to the prosecutor that the entire world is only the dream of the defendant, who relives it every night. He goes on to explain how it is possible by claiming that his mind creates the back story (life) of each person he meets in the dream, and that all things remain the same... save for a few minor details.
I remember watching that episode a few years back and thought that it made a bit of sense. Though I have been told countless times that it's "full of shit", I still find it an interesting topic of discussion as I do with the Multi-universe theory (yes, I'm aware it is technically not a theory) that came from the Schrodinger's experiment.
Yes they did, or at least something like it. A man stands trial for murder that he claims he did not commit. He later explains to the prosecutor that the entire world is only the dream of the defendant, who relives it every night. He goes on to explain how it is possible by claiming that his mind creates the back story (life) of each person he meets in the dream, and that all things remain the same... save for a few minor details.
I remember watching that episode a few years back and thought that it made a bit of sense. Though I have been told countless times that it's "full of shit", I still find it an interesting topic of discussion as I do with the Multi-universe theory (yes, I'm aware it is technically not a theory) that came from the Schrodinger's experiment.
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That was some interesting theory although there were some problem here and there, but saying that a life of a human are not limited to those living inside a moving body (or in this case a living body) are quite a theory.
Unless we/you can prove that there were other universe this is still a theory with no real evideance.
Unless we/you can prove that there were other universe this is still a theory with no real evideance.