uh oh Japan's no more torrents plan

:x[web]http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/15/japanese-isps-to-ban-file-sharers/[/web]


:x Does this mean its going to get harder to get Japanese Hentai games and other jap stuff??

Said it'll target Winny users. So, torrenters in Japan should be fine. Hopefully.


If it does detect torrent programs, then it'll be quite hard to get anything from that country. Meaning that we'll have to go to IRC for our RAWs.

Right?

Fear not, noble fappers! Though they may extinguish our primary sources of pr0n and anime, new ones shall surely arise to take their place! The glory of all things hentai cannot be stopped by such small things as national governments! They didn't stop us from getting free music when they shot Napster, and they certainly won't stop us now!

*Strikes the Kamina Pose*

We are not just any fappers! We are Fakkuers! And in the words of Simon-of-the-Amazing-Sunglasses:



+EDIT+
I don't know how much this will reassure people that everything will be fine, but /a/ is reacting to this news with what is essentially a great big collective yawn for the reasons tsujoi stated; apparently there's a difference I wasn't aware of between p2p and torrent sharing, so I think chances are good that we don't have too much to worry about.

That's exactly what we have to worry about. Winny is pretty much where everyone gets their raws. Pretty much everything raw on Tokyotosho or 4chan or Japanese upload sites or whatever originally got their stuff from Winny (unless they scanned/ripped it themselves). I owe a lot of my Japanese stuff to Winny, and, considering the amount, that's saying something.

In other words, Winny >>> Torrents in Japan. Which is precisely why the authorities are targeting it first.

But, as Comartemis said, they'll find alternatives and stuff, but this will unfortunately have a definite impact on how much stuff actually gets scanned and distributed.

OH NOES!!!

if the impact will be that huge, i think we need to find another solution A.S.A.P :roll:

We already have a couple in the works.

For instance, there's this wonderful little thing called progress: pirates will continue to do their very best to screw over the ISPs and any regulations they may attempt to impose on the net. Stopping Winny will only work until the next p2p service with better encrypting comes along, and from what the guys on 4chan are saying, that's already happened.



We might experience a slowdown in the release of new fansubs for a while, but in the long run I doubt this will have much effect on our friends the pirates.

Don't panic, gentlemen: we'll still have our anime when this is over. And speaking of pirates...

-ahem-

Greetings.

Let me start by saying that Japan filesharing is in no way endangered. Already Share/Winny is encrypted and protected from external monitoring. However, like every system there is many ways to get around this. I that if one filesharing program is killed, then people will change and adapt. The only problem behind this is using more and more countermeasures, so the users then have slower and slower uploads.

But as one of us is saying [only in uneducated 4chan terms], Japan filesharing and the internet will never be defeated. Only the battle will be lost, the war forever raging.

I hope you're right. I don't want to know what we would have to do if everything was lost.

The crackdown on piracy all over the world is somewhat worrying. Even though most of us believe that pirates will eventually outwit the authorities, the possibility that the latter win will the war still exists.

Getting back on topic, I doubt the ISPs can track all their customers' activities. Warning these infringers may be appropriate but permanently banning them from the internet will ultimately affect their level of profits. However, I am not sure of the statistics concerning the number of users who access or make use of winny, though from the above few posts, it should be safe to assume that the number is significant.

One of the biggest hindrances to the authorities' war on piracy is their rigidity. The do possess some really state of the art technology and everything, but they work within the scope of the laws. Sometimes they're willing to break them in order to catch someone. However, with pirates, hackers, and the like, they are always coming up with new encryptions, upgrading their equipment, and coming up with unique ways to stay one step ahead. Since they are working outside of the box to begin with, its easier for them to go above and beyond the limits that restrict government agencies.

-chuckles at the use of the term 'hackers' in a bad way-
There are no restrictions imposed on government agencies. Anything a cracker [cracker implying a person who breaks into databases of information or breaks passwords] does, a government IT department can do in-house anyway. They often circumvent privacy without a single hassle, and their technology is normally superior. Most crackers don't have a cluster computing solution in their backyard, but they do have a community with lots of free-thinkers. And coming up with new forms of encryption will mean nothing when a lot of similar traffic along a not-often-used port suddenly appears.

In response to Gambler, the crakcdown on piracy has become more and more pronounced. I went to albumbase a while ago to find that their site had been shut down. It's irritating, eh. Yeah, it would be easy to track customer activity. Most ISPs are already tracking for various reasons [mostly market research]. Every DNS resolution you make and every IP address you talk to on port 80 is probably being logged. All they need to do is pick a few more ports to look at.

animan09, we shall all stand in prayer. For when Japanese filesharing dies, then the world as we know it is coming to a close.

Well, look on the bright side, Hibia; if the authorities win and kill off our fansubs, at least the R1 industry will recover when we begin buying DVDs en masse to quench our collective addiction. :roll:

Did you read my post? They have no hurdles, and a car. With a warmup of 200m.

Government agency's with serious dedication and a bit of spare cash can overpower any setup your kiddie cracker has. Yes, programs written correctly are uncrackable without source or very inventive routing. But come on. Governments can monitor what they will.



<3 I already have that addiction, but I'm lacking the cash to support it right now.

Hmm, IMO this won't end. Of course, as many of you said, people would still fight the system, applying new 'tactics' and stuff. And as if the government will get a crack down on that issue, they can't even kill graft and corruption within their system. Here in my country, it's quite the same: government wants to stop piracy, some politicians get bribed, issue stops for a while. Then it goes on all over again.

LoLs. Looks like Japan won't ban torrents because of 'fear of losing customers'. What a great country. One organization says they're cracking down, a dozen others say ignore that guy.

[web]http://www.dannychoo.com/blog_entry/eng/1407/File+sharing+in+Japan/[/web]

God bless the ISPs for not giving two shits about illegal downloads. This is a huge relief for everyone on these forums, I'm certain.

I have to make a note to buy that poster of Reika and Mayu ...

Back on topic, it doesn't sound like there is much to worry about. It sounds like if the Winny and P2P users would lighten up nothing would even need to be done.