Violence funny?
Is violence and suffering of others comical?
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I'm just having a sense of adjustment in morals lately. Is laughing at others suffering bad? And when I mean "others suffering" I mean when I see them get killed or in pain.
EX: You know those pictures of starving African children? I chuckle when I look at them.
When reading Night the part where nazis threw babies in the air and shot at them, I bursted in laughter during class.
When there was a homeless guy crossing the street in front of me and was hit by a car, I laughed insanely.
I mean I'm a guy who takes horror films as comedies. I take sad endings and think of them as a hilarious climax.
So is this normal for a human being? If not then should I change the way I see things?
Also please share your feelings on this subject. Your personal views.
EX: You know those pictures of starving African children? I chuckle when I look at them.
When reading Night the part where nazis threw babies in the air and shot at them, I bursted in laughter during class.
When there was a homeless guy crossing the street in front of me and was hit by a car, I laughed insanely.
I mean I'm a guy who takes horror films as comedies. I take sad endings and think of them as a hilarious climax.
So is this normal for a human being? If not then should I change the way I see things?
Also please share your feelings on this subject. Your personal views.
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If it's significant in some sense then I don't laugh at violence or death. Hearing about an 8 year-old girl getting raped isn't funny. Hearing about a 25 year-old burglar getting raped after breaking into a sex offender's house is fucking hilarious.
I can be indifferent to serious things but I honestly don't find them funny.
I can be indifferent to serious things but I honestly don't find them funny.
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I don't know both rape can seem funny depending on the story. I mean if the little girl was just kidnapped . . . ok I chuckled a bit so I find that mildly funny. And the robber . . . well I can't laugh cuz I jsut laughed at the little girl one but I think I would ahve laughed at the robber one no matter what the story is.
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blind_assassin wrote...
If it's significant in some sense then I don't laugh at violence or death. Hearing about an 8 year-old girl getting raped isn't funny. Hearing about a 25 year-old burglar getting raped after breaking into a sex offender's house is fucking hilarious. I can be indifferent to serious things but I honestly don't find them funny.
^Pretty much this.
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KLoWn wrote...
blind_assassin wrote...
If it's significant in some sense then I don't laugh at violence or death. Hearing about an 8 year-old girl getting raped isn't funny. Hearing about a 25 year-old burglar getting raped after breaking into a sex offender's house is fucking hilarious. I can be indifferent to serious things but I honestly don't find them funny.
^Pretty much this.
it depends on how each and everyone one of us views certain things.
I don't laugh at people who are trying their best to do something even if they fail miserably in doing so. I just don't see anything amusing for me to laugh at other's misfortunes. Just imagine yourself as the recipient of such violence or misfortune for example... what would you feel if others, instead of helping you out, just laughs at you?
but someone who deserves such "karma" is a different story. If a thief was trying to rob someone but got himself robbed instead... that's what I find hilarious!
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No, i don't find violence funny especially taken to extreme. Got sick when i browse through this site for example. You will find many people that are amused at that site, such is the world we live in.
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Reminds me of 4chan.
On 4chan, everybody laughs at horrendous things, but that's because they think that laughing at people getting killed makes me tough or something. It's pathetic, really.
That's not to say that all violence and horror isn't funny. A pic The Jesus posted in a random thread, for example, featured a truck getting crushed by a building, and it was funny. But it was funny partly because of the way the place collapsed and partly because you didn't see the guy actually get killed.
A homeless guy getting hit on the street, there's really nothing funny about that. Laughing at such a thing suggests a problem with you, that you feel the need to laugh at horrible things. Such as, you feel life is horrible, and pain is all around us, and because of this horrible fact, that you can do nothing about, you need some way to deal with life and the pain all around us, so you laugh, and that makes it less powerful. Death doesn't hurt if you can laugh at it.
Still, some things simply strike us as funny. Germans throwing babies into the air and shooting them? That sounds fucking hilarious. But I'm trying to picture such a thing, and I can't picture it seriously at all. In real life, wouldn't they just put the babies on the ground and shoot them? Throwing them into the air makes it seem like a Monty Python sketch.
On 4chan, everybody laughs at horrendous things, but that's because they think that laughing at people getting killed makes me tough or something. It's pathetic, really.
That's not to say that all violence and horror isn't funny. A pic The Jesus posted in a random thread, for example, featured a truck getting crushed by a building, and it was funny. But it was funny partly because of the way the place collapsed and partly because you didn't see the guy actually get killed.
A homeless guy getting hit on the street, there's really nothing funny about that. Laughing at such a thing suggests a problem with you, that you feel the need to laugh at horrible things. Such as, you feel life is horrible, and pain is all around us, and because of this horrible fact, that you can do nothing about, you need some way to deal with life and the pain all around us, so you laugh, and that makes it less powerful. Death doesn't hurt if you can laugh at it.
Still, some things simply strike us as funny. Germans throwing babies into the air and shooting them? That sounds fucking hilarious. But I'm trying to picture such a thing, and I can't picture it seriously at all. In real life, wouldn't they just put the babies on the ground and shoot them? Throwing them into the air makes it seem like a Monty Python sketch.
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violence as in shooting someone is funny to me but something like a Japanese game show where people get hurt is fucking hilarious
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
A homeless guy getting hit on the street, there's really nothing funny about that. Laughing at such a thing suggests a problem with you, that you feel the need to laugh at horrible things. Such as, you feel life is horrible, and pain is all around us, and because of this horrible fact, that you can do nothing about, you need some way to deal with life and the pain all around us, so you laugh, and that makes it less powerful. Death doesn't hurt if you can laugh at it.Still, some things simply strike us as funny. Germans throwing babies into the air and shooting them? That sounds fucking hilarious. But I'm trying to picture such a thing, and I can't picture it seriously at all. In real life, wouldn't they just put the babies on the ground and shoot them? Throwing them into the air makes it seem like a Monty Python sketch.
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rbz123 wrote...
ShaggyJebus wrote...
A homeless guy getting hit on the street, there's really nothing funny about that. Laughing at such a thing suggests a problem with you, that you feel the need to laugh at horrible things. Such as, you feel life is horrible, and pain is all around us, and because of this horrible fact, that you can do nothing about, you need some way to deal with life and the pain all around us, so you laugh, and that makes it less powerful. Death doesn't hurt if you can laugh at it.Still, some things simply strike us as funny. Germans throwing babies into the air and shooting them? That sounds fucking hilarious. But I'm trying to picture such a thing, and I can't picture it seriously at all. In real life, wouldn't they just put the babies on the ground and shoot them? Throwing them into the air makes it seem like a Monty Python sketch.
A guy getting hit by a car isn't funny, in and of itself. In a comedy sketch, it can be made funny, but in real life, it's just pain. And a guy getting hit by a car is very real.
People throwing babies in the air and shooting them? It isn't very real. It's a strange thing to do (why would you need to throw them?), so it's hard to take it seriously. Because it's hard to take seriously, the mind is very free to create something comedic.
For example, when someone mentions throwing babies and shooting them, I think of skeet shooting; a man shouts, and then a baby is thrown, and he shoots it, all the while discussing with his fellow gentlemen the issues of the day. When I think of a guy getting hit by a car, there's no funny scene. I don't immediately think of a comedy sketch. I just imagine a dead guy and a car.
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It's all in how the violence is presented, most of the time. For me, hearing someone who did something monumentally stupid and died because of it is funny. SEEING it happen, though, would probably be disturbing. You might laugh because due to the shock of the moment, but when it sinks in it's not funny. Also, there's the personal aspect of it. I think it was Mel Brooks who said: “Tragedy is when I stub my toe. Comedy is when you fall into an open manhole and die.”
Again, presentation is important. Slapstick is funny. Three Stooges, Monty Python, funny. Pictures of a murder scene or photos of an execution are generally not funny.
If someone finds feelings of suffering in other people to be amusing then that person should try to discover WHY. There's a reason for everything that one feels. Naturally, how we act on our feelings is the important thing, but it should be a matter of concern if one feels an impartiality or callous disregard of other human beings. Nobody can suddenly say that what they're feeling is wrong and just not feel it anymore. One has to discover the reason for one's own feelings before a change can take place.
I'm not about to tell anyone that what they're feeling is wrong. That's none of my damned business and I'd take exception to anyone who tried to tell ME what to feel. Still, I'd think that it'd be difficult to relate to anyone else if you feel amusement at suffering. If you can't relate to other sentient beings, then who can you relate to?
Again, presentation is important. Slapstick is funny. Three Stooges, Monty Python, funny. Pictures of a murder scene or photos of an execution are generally not funny.
If someone finds feelings of suffering in other people to be amusing then that person should try to discover WHY. There's a reason for everything that one feels. Naturally, how we act on our feelings is the important thing, but it should be a matter of concern if one feels an impartiality or callous disregard of other human beings. Nobody can suddenly say that what they're feeling is wrong and just not feel it anymore. One has to discover the reason for one's own feelings before a change can take place.
I'm not about to tell anyone that what they're feeling is wrong. That's none of my damned business and I'd take exception to anyone who tried to tell ME what to feel. Still, I'd think that it'd be difficult to relate to anyone else if you feel amusement at suffering. If you can't relate to other sentient beings, then who can you relate to?
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
rbz123 wrote...
ShaggyJebus wrote...
A homeless guy getting hit on the street, there's really nothing funny about that. Laughing at such a thing suggests a problem with you, that you feel the need to laugh at horrible things. Such as, you feel life is horrible, and pain is all around us, and because of this horrible fact, that you can do nothing about, you need some way to deal with life and the pain all around us, so you laugh, and that makes it less powerful. Death doesn't hurt if you can laugh at it.Still, some things simply strike us as funny. Germans throwing babies into the air and shooting them? That sounds fucking hilarious. But I'm trying to picture such a thing, and I can't picture it seriously at all. In real life, wouldn't they just put the babies on the ground and shoot them? Throwing them into the air makes it seem like a Monty Python sketch.
A guy getting hit by a car isn't funny, in and of itself. In a comedy sketch, it can be made funny, but in real life, it's just pain. And a guy getting hit by a car is very real.
People throwing babies in the air and shooting them? It isn't very real. It's a strange thing to do (why would you need to throw them?), so it's hard to take it seriously. Because it's hard to take seriously, the mind is very free to create something comedic.
For example, when someone mentions throwing babies and shooting them, I think of skeet shooting; a man shouts, and then a baby is thrown, and he shoots it, all the while discussing with his fellow gentlemen the issues of the day. When I think of a guy getting hit by a car, there's no funny scene. I don't immediately think of a comedy sketch. I just imagine a dead guy and a car.
What is funny or not is subjective. Laughing at horrible shit like that by your own words makes you fucked up. Realistic or not, it's fucked up shit.
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blind_assassin wrote...
If it's significant in some sense then I don't laugh at violence or death. Hearing about an 8 year-old girl getting raped isn't funny. Hearing about a 25 year-old burglar getting raped after breaking into a sex offender's house is fucking hilarious.^Yup agreed.
The things you described though GSD, the throwing babies, that's so unrealistic that it's worth a chuckle. If that was seriously happening though, that would so be fucked up.
Laughing at a homeless guy getting hit by a car...I mean if it was just a little bump I could see, but if it was truly a hit where the dude flew, laughing is seriously fucked up. I'd be surprised if someone didn't slap you for doing so in such a serious situation. I've never seen something really serious like someone dying or getting seriously hurt in front of me, but if someone laughed when they had such an extreme pain, I would be really upset. Now shit that's on funniest home videos like guys getting hit in the nuts or going face first into docks or some shit, or crazy game shows, that's funny, because you know the person is all ok & not serious.
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GSDAkatsuki wrote...
I mean I'm a guy who takes horror films as comedies.I'm just going to put this out there: I've seen some horror films that were fucking hilarious. :lol:
Grade B movies and whatnot.
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
Reminds me of 4chan.On 4chan, everybody laughs at horrendous things, but that's because they think that laughing at people getting killed makes me tough or something. It's pathetic, really.
That's not to say that all violence and horror isn't funny. A pic The Jesus posted in a random thread, for example, featured a truck getting crushed by a building, and it was funny. But it was funny partly because of the way the place collapsed and partly because you didn't see the guy actually get killed.
A homeless guy getting hit on the street, there's really nothing funny about that. Laughing at such a thing suggests a problem with you, that you feel the need to laugh at horrible things. Such as, you feel life is horrible, and pain is all around us, and because of this horrible fact, that you can do nothing about, you need some way to deal with life and the pain all around us, so you laugh, and that makes it less powerful. Death doesn't hurt if you can laugh at it.
Still, some things simply strike us as funny. Germans throwing babies into the air and shooting them? That sounds fucking hilarious. But I'm trying to picture such a thing, and I can't picture it seriously at all. In real life, wouldn't they just put the babies on the ground and shoot them? Throwing them into the air makes it seem like a Monty Python sketch.
i found that extremely funny cuz i cant picture it either and it does sound like somthing monty python would come up with XD
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I know babies being thrown in the air and shot at is unreal but that's exactly what I read few years ago in the book Night. And if you don't know what Night is, then go wiki it. It's a Holocaust survivor story.
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GSDAkatsuki wrote...
I know babies being thrown in the air and shot at is unreal but that's exactly what I read few years ago in the book Night. And if you don't know what Night is, then go wiki it. It's a Holocaust survivor story.It's also required reading in some places.
What IS human nature is to laugh when we feel uncomfortable.
For some people that means laughing hysterically when someone dies right in front of them.
Or it might be an ingrained response because of some sort of personal experience.
Or you might be fucked in the head.
Without knowing more about you, it's hard to say why you would. So see a professional or something.
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GSDAkatsuki wrote...
...can seem funny depending on the story.Exactly right.
Imagine Miss Piggy being raped by Kermit the Frog. XD
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rbz123 wrote...
ShaggyJebus wrote...
rbz123 wrote...
ShaggyJebus wrote...
A homeless guy getting hit on the street, there's really nothing funny about that. Laughing at such a thing suggests a problem with you, that you feel the need to laugh at horrible things. Such as, you feel life is horrible, and pain is all around us, and because of this horrible fact, that you can do nothing about, you need some way to deal with life and the pain all around us, so you laugh, and that makes it less powerful. Death doesn't hurt if you can laugh at it.Still, some things simply strike us as funny. Germans throwing babies into the air and shooting them? That sounds fucking hilarious. But I'm trying to picture such a thing, and I can't picture it seriously at all. In real life, wouldn't they just put the babies on the ground and shoot them? Throwing them into the air makes it seem like a Monty Python sketch.
A guy getting hit by a car isn't funny, in and of itself. In a comedy sketch, it can be made funny, but in real life, it's just pain. And a guy getting hit by a car is very real.
People throwing babies in the air and shooting them? It isn't very real. It's a strange thing to do (why would you need to throw them?), so it's hard to take it seriously. Because it's hard to take seriously, the mind is very free to create something comedic.
For example, when someone mentions throwing babies and shooting them, I think of skeet shooting; a man shouts, and then a baby is thrown, and he shoots it, all the while discussing with his fellow gentlemen the issues of the day. When I think of a guy getting hit by a car, there's no funny scene. I don't immediately think of a comedy sketch. I just imagine a dead guy and a car.
What is funny or not is subjective. Laughing at horrible shit like that by your own words makes you fucked up. Realistic or not, it's fucked up shit.
Laughing at the thought of babies being thrown in the air and shot may be fucked up, but it doesn't immediately suggest a problem with the person. Laughing when a person gets hit by a car and killed, and nothing more, that suggests a problem. If there was funny music added to it, you could say it's funny because it's ironic. But you cannot rationally explain why a person getting hit by a car is funny (unless, like Ayase said, it was only a little bump and not a life-or-death situation).
Also, if I saw photos or video of real babies being thrown and shot, I wouldn't laugh. I'm sure if I was reading a book about the Holocaust, and the book started talking about babies being thrown and shot, I wouldn't laugh. If I did laugh, I would think, "Why does death make me laugh?" If I watched Monty Python or some other sketch comedy group do it, I would think, "It's funny because it isn't real."
I've known people who laugh at horrible shit like people dying; I've even been there myself. And I recognize that people who do it usually have some sort of problem. It doesn't have to be a major problem; I'm not saying that they're sickos who need electro-shock therapy. They may not even need medication. But there is something wrong, perhaps on an emotional level, that makes them laugh at true death, versus fake death. And as long as it's only gifs online, you can still see it as "fake" death. "It's a fake video," you can tell yourself, "made to shock people." But if you see it in real life, with your own two eyes, and you laugh, it shows that something is wrong. Like Dante said (sort of), it could be a defensive mechanism, if someone is killed right in front of your eyes, to laugh. But getting actual joy out of seeing someone die, repeatedly, isn't a defense mechanism. It goes beyond that.
GSDAkatsuki, I am not saying that you are fucked up. I don't know much about you. I'm not even saying that you should be a shrink. You should just think and ask yourself, "What is funny about a real person dying?" If you can laugh at a random person dying, can you laugh at a family member dying? Do you get pure joy from these images, or is there a sense of uncomfortableness? Is there any reason for you to be desensitized to death?