Working and Living in a different country?

I want to work and live in another country different from my birth country of the United States. I don't mean temporarily either but permanently.

This is what you stated.

With japan being the only country you have in consideration.


But most of what we said, applies to making this type of decision with ANY country.

If you don't want people attacking you, then be fucking smarter.

You probably don't want to hear this - but I would agree that you have little idea what you are getting into or even why you want to do it. First, I would seriously reconsider your idea of giving up your citizenship - I don't think you have any idea what is involved or the unforeseen consequences. Have you considered that by becoming a citizen of a different country you will then operate and live under their laws, drafts and mandatory military service come to mind. Japanese living and working conditions are quite different, and as other have stated you are not going to get your first job overseas. Many countries won't even allow you to work there unless you meet fairly stiff criteria. Housing is extremely expensive and extremely small by American standards. Working conditions are very different, many employers expect long hours - much longer than in the US.

On my last business trip to Toyko we would work a full day, go out for dinner and drinks and stop back by the office and many of the office workers were still there at eleven PM. Japan is also a place you will never truly fit in - you will always be a foreigner - make no mistake. As other have stated there is also the matters of health care, etc which you might find quite different. Don't expect to have the same rights or behave as you do in the U.S.

BTW - women are women the worldwide - while there are many gorgeous oriental ladies, the majority are plain - just like American women - the magazine etc are not representative of the average person you will encounter.

How this turned into me defending my reasons for why I want to live and work in Japan or any other country but America, I have no clue. I initially started this post because I wanted to know if there were other people who had decided or were in the process of deciding wanting to live and work in a different country. I wanted to know the reasons they wanted to live and work in a different country. A belief of mine is that every person has a country that is their ideal country. America is not my ideal country therefore I seek to find the one that is. If Japan is not my ideal country then I will keep searching until I find the country that is.

there is no such thing as an ideal country.

That is just your ignorance talking.

Says you, ya know what, I'm not here to defend my reasons, the reason I started this post is made blatantly clear in the last one. I am not gonna bother to respond to anymore posts attacking my reasons or trying to convince me to change them or my decisions. As I stated, If I fuck up, then it's my fuck up and I will roll with the punches and deal with it.

Then enjoy fucking up, because that is what you shall do.

That is the best thing I have seen in my entire life.



How many people do you think have gone mad about japan for the exact same reason? There's a bullshit amount of different "JAPANESE CULTURE" communities all over the west, and they're everything but japanese. Every anime, manga, hentai, culture etc boards I've paid visit to were literally drowning in "I'm learning japanese" and "I'm going to Japan" threads made by all kinds of different people, but they all had equal reasoning and were all equally worthless with their whole approach on the thing. You're wondering why people aren't taking you seriously?

You know what I did when I opened this thread? I scrolled down the text and looked for how long it'd take me to read about you going to Japan of all countries - It took me about twenty seconds and you didn't disappoint. You're giving the exact same impression as the hundreds of other people on the internet who I've seen approach their goals like that. See, the difference to someone who would give a far more serious impression is he wouldn't be on an american website talking to english speaking people who are literally all the same as you and also don't know jack about what they're actually aiming at - he would be on a japanese board instead, writing the japanese language to japanese people in japan instead, which he can do because he was serious on the whole thing and has already shown that he's capable of putting all this effort into it. You're just waiting for the whole thing to come to you, thinking that Japan's gonna take you in and gladly accept you and teach you their language. Why would they do that?

Now I don't wanna bash on you, but if you're serious about your dreams then you have to step your shit up and show some determination. Reading english articles on japanese culture and having arguments with english people in an english community doesn't get you anywhere, really.

And so does preparing yourself for a culture you haven't had any first hand experience with, really. That's not how it works. You're concerning yourself with all the wrong things.