Your personal opinion on the DPRK! Only Asians!
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So, since many of you are from Korea/Japan I would like to know how you personally feel about the DPRK. And by this I mean your feelings independent of propaganda like "dictator", "torture", "concentration camps", "weapons of mass destruction", and etc.
What do you think would be the best way for the DPRK to further develop itself? Unification with Korea, like East/West-Germany? Should the system change? Should everything stay the same? etc.
Mod Edit: All users are allowed to post in this thread, regardless of their nationality or race.
Thank you for your kind understanding and I apologize for the inconvenience caused. - Gambler
What do you think would be the best way for the DPRK to further develop itself? Unification with Korea, like East/West-Germany? Should the system change? Should everything stay the same? etc.
Mod Edit: All users are allowed to post in this thread, regardless of their nationality or race.
Thank you for your kind understanding and I apologize for the inconvenience caused. - Gambler
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Tegumi
"im always cute"
>Implying there are resident Koreans and Japanese on this forum.
>Using 'Asians' as a blanket statement when you only mean Koreans and Japanese.
>Using 'Asians' as a blanket statement when you only mean Koreans and Japanese.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
Implying that Asians are the only people who could possible know enough about the situation.
Implying that just being Asian gives you the knowledge to participate in this thread.
Implying that just being Asian gives you the knowledge to participate in this thread.
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Knowing that there are resident Koreans and Japanese on this forum.
Wanting to know the opinion of all Asians (which means Indo-Chinese and Oceanians of Asiatic origin as well), but with special focus on Japanese and Koreans since they are historically most related on this topic (Japanese-Korean wars, occupations, etc.).
Implying that Kalistean is not an Asian.
Knowing that he is full of BS.
Wanting to know the opinion of all Asians (which means Indo-Chinese and Oceanians of Asiatic origin as well), but with special focus on Japanese and Koreans since they are historically most related on this topic (Japanese-Korean wars, occupations, etc.).
Implying that Kalistean is not an Asian.
Knowing that he is full of BS.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
MrLeopoldBloom wrote...
I'm 1/4 Armenian. Is that Asian enough?Obviously you need to at least be 1/2 of an asian descent or your opinion is completely invalid!
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MrLeopoldBloom wrote...
I'm 1/4 Armenian. Is that Asian enough?If you grew up an live in Asia, yes.
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Kalistean wrote...
MrLeopoldBloom wrote...
I'm 1/4 Armenian. Is that Asian enough?Obviously you need to at least be 1/2 of an asian descent or your opinion is completely invalid!
No, you must have an Mongolian spot to prove racial purity!^^
Somehow Kalistean achieves to spam all sorts of topics without the intention of ever posting anything constructive.
Try this Kalistean:
https://www.fakku.net/viewforum.php?f=40
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Not Asian but lived in Asia and was in the 38th parallel aka DMZ has a temporary mp stationed in the Joint Security Area.
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Nah, I've lived in America all my life. And Armenia is kind of a crappy country, so I doubt I would want to live there. Quite poor and what not. Also on unfriendly terms with neighboring Azerbaijan. Oy vey.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
animefreak_usa wrote...
Not Asian but lived in Asia and was in the 38th parallel aka DMZ has a temporary mp stationed in the Joint Security Area.Dude! Can't you read man. Only Asians.
Obviously you shouldn't be having an opinion at all about this.
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Mod Note: I would urge all users to remain on topic. In addition, I believe all users, regardless of their nationality, should be allowed to post in this particular thread.
Getting back to the topic of North Korea, it would be best if all their problems can resolved peacefully. Then again, the limited information available with regards to the lives of ordinary North Koreans makes it difficult for others to come up with an objective view.
Getting back to the topic of North Korea, it would be best if all their problems can resolved peacefully. Then again, the limited information available with regards to the lives of ordinary North Koreans makes it difficult for others to come up with an objective view.
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Well, I'm an Anglo-American, not an Asian, but here's my two cents.
For North Korea itself, I believe that it is one of the most repressive, if not the most repressive regime on the planet today. Citizens do not have freedom of speech or movement, and dissenters are sent to internment camps. Human rights violations are routine.
Needless to say, I'm not fond of North Korea.
Now, as for the possible reunification of the two countries, I don't see the two Koreas reuniting anytime soon. If they did reunite, then they probably wouldn't be able to do it immediately without completely crippling the South Korean economy (assuming it was under South Korea). Even today, Germany's economy hasn't fully recovered from the absorption of the DDR, almost twenty years later. Not only is South Korea's economy smaller than that of West Germany's at the time of reunification, but North Korea is far, far more backwards than East Germany ever was. A sudden reunification would probably bring the Korean economy to its knees.
I do hope that one day the two Koreas will reunite under a democratic government, but I just don't see happening in the near future, especially since tensions have been high after the sinking of that warship.
For North Korea itself, I believe that it is one of the most repressive, if not the most repressive regime on the planet today. Citizens do not have freedom of speech or movement, and dissenters are sent to internment camps. Human rights violations are routine.
Needless to say, I'm not fond of North Korea.
Now, as for the possible reunification of the two countries, I don't see the two Koreas reuniting anytime soon. If they did reunite, then they probably wouldn't be able to do it immediately without completely crippling the South Korean economy (assuming it was under South Korea). Even today, Germany's economy hasn't fully recovered from the absorption of the DDR, almost twenty years later. Not only is South Korea's economy smaller than that of West Germany's at the time of reunification, but North Korea is far, far more backwards than East Germany ever was. A sudden reunification would probably bring the Korean economy to its knees.
I do hope that one day the two Koreas will reunite under a democratic government, but I just don't see happening in the near future, especially since tensions have been high after the sinking of that warship.
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[size=12]Everything should stay the same. South Korea and North Korea will never reunite. I just can't see it happening. North Korea is just too stubborn and if the South and North reunite, South Korea will suffer. I just don't see any compromise that both parties will agree upon. And furthermore, I don't want to see a war happening because of someone's idea of "reuniting". Just let things be. It's fine this way. [/h]
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
Not so.
Though unlikely. Probably the only realistic way they would rejoin is if a revolution took place in North Korea.
Which is actually pretty possible.
Though unlikely. Probably the only realistic way they would rejoin is if a revolution took place in North Korea.
Which is actually pretty possible.
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jmason
Curious and Wondering
In my opinion, North Korea (or DPRK if you will) is the only prominent country that can cut itself off from foreign influence when they want to and control their stuff as much as they want to. The fact that there are only limited information available on what North Korea's inner workings really are, and most required extensive negotiation and visitations by foreign journalists, says how good North Korea is at controlling how and what the world knows about them.
They're isolated, they have military force, and say what you will about their ways and how they do it but they've been successful in what they wanted to do with the resources they have.
But when they say or do something, the world listens. That tells volumes about DPRK.
On note, about possible "reunifications" with South Korea, we're talking about two really contrasting lifestyles. One country has a very low economy, military dictatorship and a Juche cult based on their leaders. One has a Presidential republic, a trillion-dollar economy and good, active public lifestyle. It will not happen anytime soon, but down the line in the future where change can happen, it's a future possibility if both sides can agree to a point or two they can co-exist side by side on.
Just my two cents in. And I also agree with Gambler's.
They're isolated, they have military force, and say what you will about their ways and how they do it but they've been successful in what they wanted to do with the resources they have.
But when they say or do something, the world listens. That tells volumes about DPRK.
On note, about possible "reunifications" with South Korea, we're talking about two really contrasting lifestyles. One country has a very low economy, military dictatorship and a Juche cult based on their leaders. One has a Presidential republic, a trillion-dollar economy and good, active public lifestyle. It will not happen anytime soon, but down the line in the future where change can happen, it's a future possibility if both sides can agree to a point or two they can co-exist side by side on.
Just my two cents in. And I also agree with Gambler's.
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jmason wrote...
But when they say or do something, the world listens. That tells volumes about DPRK.If by volumes you mean "How to make your country comparable to teenage angst" then I would agree with you completely. The only reason we listen so intently when DPRK speaks is because now they started throwing around rocks instead of NERF balls. (Threat of nuclear capability) They could go either way in that regard; they're smart enough not to, but fanatical enough to ignore the warnings. You might think that might be an oversimplified way of viewing it, but that's what it really boils down to.
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North Koreans are pretty cool guys. No, really, they are.
My neighbors who lives on 2nd floor is from North Korea, then there's some japanese students from upstairs and there's South Korean family next door. Yeah, and a bunch of Chinese people. Also, there's that Moses guy from Ethiopia. He's pretty cool too. :) And everybody is getting along really well.
Behold before Russian Far East sector, we have everybody. :D
My neighbors who lives on 2nd floor is from North Korea, then there's some japanese students from upstairs and there's South Korean family next door. Yeah, and a bunch of Chinese people. Also, there's that Moses guy from Ethiopia. He's pretty cool too. :) And everybody is getting along really well.
Behold before Russian Far East sector, we have everybody. :D
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I'm Korean. Born, not raised. But I speak the language. Happy?
My father served time in the Korean army at the DMZ. On a side note, 'DMZ' is the biggest oxymoron of the past sixty years.
Unconditional surrender is ideal. This will never happen.
Second best is for North Korea to cease building nuclear weapons. This won't happen under Kim Jong-IL. I don't know how messed up his son is, but it's potentially a good thing that the third son is named the successor. He's the youngest (duh) and might have better visions on where to take the country.
North Korea has a standing army of around 1.4 million men, compared to South Korea's 650,000. The United States also has around 25,000 men in South Korea. Combining that with the idiot location of South Korea's capital, which is honestly about two hours driving from the DMZ, and you realize that North Korea can pretty much conquer South Korea in half a day.
The standing army poses issues beyond military ones. That government can barely feed its citizens and it's directly feeding 1.4 million men daily. Heck, one of the reasons the army got so big is because the government promised to feed you. Something is going to give, and North Korea sure as heck isn't going to decrease its army size. They already know they can get away with a ton of crap, when you consider the missile tests and Cheonan incident months ago.
North Korea is an unstable country that I don't see a peaceful resolution to, unless the third son is a genius, holds off his older brothers, and actually likes the rest of the world.
You also have to factor in China, which definitely wants North Korea to exist to serve as a buffer state between it and South Korea. South Korea are the biggest supporters of the United States in the world (we single-handedly fund companies such as blizzard and advertise it for free.) But that's another can of worms entirely, and this post is too long as is.
My father served time in the Korean army at the DMZ. On a side note, 'DMZ' is the biggest oxymoron of the past sixty years.
Unconditional surrender is ideal. This will never happen.
Second best is for North Korea to cease building nuclear weapons. This won't happen under Kim Jong-IL. I don't know how messed up his son is, but it's potentially a good thing that the third son is named the successor. He's the youngest (duh) and might have better visions on where to take the country.
North Korea has a standing army of around 1.4 million men, compared to South Korea's 650,000. The United States also has around 25,000 men in South Korea. Combining that with the idiot location of South Korea's capital, which is honestly about two hours driving from the DMZ, and you realize that North Korea can pretty much conquer South Korea in half a day.
The standing army poses issues beyond military ones. That government can barely feed its citizens and it's directly feeding 1.4 million men daily. Heck, one of the reasons the army got so big is because the government promised to feed you. Something is going to give, and North Korea sure as heck isn't going to decrease its army size. They already know they can get away with a ton of crap, when you consider the missile tests and Cheonan incident months ago.
North Korea is an unstable country that I don't see a peaceful resolution to, unless the third son is a genius, holds off his older brothers, and actually likes the rest of the world.
You also have to factor in China, which definitely wants North Korea to exist to serve as a buffer state between it and South Korea. South Korea are the biggest supporters of the United States in the world (we single-handedly fund companies such as blizzard and advertise it for free.) But that's another can of worms entirely, and this post is too long as is.
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As for now, N. Korea will never reunite with the South because they don't want to. The government has convinced them that it is "us versus them". This isn't really helped by all the negative press they get from neighboring countries like Japan.
At least west and east germany wanted to reunite. Both sides saw each other as one people, but right now the N. Koreans are viewing themselves more and more separate from their southern counter-parts.
My neighbors who lives on 2nd floor is from North Korea, then there's some japanese students from upstairs and there's South Korean family next door. Yeah, and a bunch of Chinese people. Also, there's that Moses guy from Ethiopia. He's pretty cool too. :) And everybody is getting along really well.
Behold before Russian Far East sector, we have everybody. :D
Governments and the people they govern are two separate entities in reality.
At least west and east germany wanted to reunite. Both sides saw each other as one people, but right now the N. Koreans are viewing themselves more and more separate from their southern counter-parts.
ManiacYKT wrote...
North Koreans are pretty cool guys. No, really, they are.My neighbors who lives on 2nd floor is from North Korea, then there's some japanese students from upstairs and there's South Korean family next door. Yeah, and a bunch of Chinese people. Also, there's that Moses guy from Ethiopia. He's pretty cool too. :) And everybody is getting along really well.
Behold before Russian Far East sector, we have everybody. :D
Governments and the people they govern are two separate entities in reality.