You're a SLAVE, you just don't see it yet!
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You're a SLAVE, you just don't see it yet!

Going Postal
Mark's artiles on the Exiled.
...or at least according to the works of Mark Ames we are.
"Ames takes a systematic look at the scores of rage killings in our public schools and workplaces that have taken place over the past 25 years. He claims that instead of being the work of psychopaths, they were carried out by ordinary people who had suffered repeated humiliation, bullying and inhumane conditions that find their origins in the "Reagan Revolution." Looking through a carefully researched historical lens, Ames recasts these rage killings as failed slave rebellions."-source article
"Why did it all start in that point in time, in the mid-1980s? Why did these shootings start then, and not in the 1970s or 1960s? What changed?
It wasn’t as though guns suddenly became legalized in the 80s, or that movies just started to get violent. No, what changed was the Reagan Revolution, and the massive transfer of wealth from the majority of America’s workforce up to the tiny plutocrat class. Reaganomics changed the corporate culture, and since we spend most of our lives working, it means our lives were changed–our lives were literally transferred into the offshore bank accounts and Aspen cabins of our bosses’ bosses. For the rich to get richer, they had to destroy the old corporate culture which emphasized a mutually beneficial relationship between company and employee, thereby limiting how obscenely rich they could get, and put in its place an ideology which dictated that companies only exist to enrich the executives and major shareholders. Workers could fuck off and die if they didn’t like it. So from 1981 on, companies squeezed workers of their “unlimited juice” (in the words of GE’s former CEO “Neutron” Jack Welch, nicknamed that for his firing of 120,000 GE workers while he took in hundreds of millions of dollars in personal bonuses), firing them en masse and stripping more benefits from them whenever the executives and shareholders wanted to drive up their quarterly earnings a few cents. This kind of treatment pushed people to the brink. While the executives’ lives got better and better, the average American middle-class worker’s wages stagnated, their benefits were slashed, and their work hours soared. The rich got so rich that they even left the rich behind to create a new super-rich class of their own, creating what the New York Times called the “hyper-rich”"-source article

Going Postal
Mark's artiles on the Exiled.
...or at least according to the works of Mark Ames we are.
"Ames takes a systematic look at the scores of rage killings in our public schools and workplaces that have taken place over the past 25 years. He claims that instead of being the work of psychopaths, they were carried out by ordinary people who had suffered repeated humiliation, bullying and inhumane conditions that find their origins in the "Reagan Revolution." Looking through a carefully researched historical lens, Ames recasts these rage killings as failed slave rebellions."-source article
"Why did it all start in that point in time, in the mid-1980s? Why did these shootings start then, and not in the 1970s or 1960s? What changed?
It wasn’t as though guns suddenly became legalized in the 80s, or that movies just started to get violent. No, what changed was the Reagan Revolution, and the massive transfer of wealth from the majority of America’s workforce up to the tiny plutocrat class. Reaganomics changed the corporate culture, and since we spend most of our lives working, it means our lives were changed–our lives were literally transferred into the offshore bank accounts and Aspen cabins of our bosses’ bosses. For the rich to get richer, they had to destroy the old corporate culture which emphasized a mutually beneficial relationship between company and employee, thereby limiting how obscenely rich they could get, and put in its place an ideology which dictated that companies only exist to enrich the executives and major shareholders. Workers could fuck off and die if they didn’t like it. So from 1981 on, companies squeezed workers of their “unlimited juice” (in the words of GE’s former CEO “Neutron” Jack Welch, nicknamed that for his firing of 120,000 GE workers while he took in hundreds of millions of dollars in personal bonuses), firing them en masse and stripping more benefits from them whenever the executives and shareholders wanted to drive up their quarterly earnings a few cents. This kind of treatment pushed people to the brink. While the executives’ lives got better and better, the average American middle-class worker’s wages stagnated, their benefits were slashed, and their work hours soared. The rich got so rich that they even left the rich behind to create a new super-rich class of their own, creating what the New York Times called the “hyper-rich”"-source article

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Heck, anyone these past 160+ years could've/did tell you this was going to happen. The only question that concerns me is whether it's the right time to do something about it (long story).
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I can certainly agree with the "repeated humiliation" comment. I'm pretty sure I'm not insane and I've contemplated the murder of many a deserving asshole.
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Nope, sorry, don't see it, at least not completely. I certainly agree that economic frustration contributes to violent outbursts, but the type of economic frustration referred to here is nothing new, and the claim is that "postal" type shootings are. Clearly, there must be other factors at work as well which cause "postal" crimes to be chosen over rioting or arson or something else.
Workers being exploited in the corporate goes back to at least the early industrial revolution in the US. Wages were so low everyone and their kids had to work to make a living. Corporate bosses used the government and even hired armed mercenaries to prevent workers from uniting to collectively bargain. They used monopolies to charge exorbitant prices, created company towns so that the corporation essentially owned you, and engaged in many other morally reprehensible practices. The "Robber Barons" were plenty hated and brutal in their days, and I certainly wouldn't say that this corporate culture emphasized a mutual relationship between corporation and employee.
Why didn't violence spike then(well there were some quite violent riots and battles between workers and corporate hirelings), but why didn't "postal" type shootings spike then? You have exploited, humiliated people being treated like garbage by an elite few, the same things Ames cites, according to your quotes.
Workers being exploited in the corporate goes back to at least the early industrial revolution in the US. Wages were so low everyone and their kids had to work to make a living. Corporate bosses used the government and even hired armed mercenaries to prevent workers from uniting to collectively bargain. They used monopolies to charge exorbitant prices, created company towns so that the corporation essentially owned you, and engaged in many other morally reprehensible practices. The "Robber Barons" were plenty hated and brutal in their days, and I certainly wouldn't say that this corporate culture emphasized a mutual relationship between corporation and employee.
Why didn't violence spike then(well there were some quite violent riots and battles between workers and corporate hirelings), but why didn't "postal" type shootings spike then? You have exploited, humiliated people being treated like garbage by an elite few, the same things Ames cites, according to your quotes.
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"Ames takes a systematic look at the scores of rage killings in our public schools and workplaces that have taken place over the past 25 years. He claims that instead of being the work of psychopaths, they were carried out by ordinary people who had suffered repeated humiliation, bullying and inhumane conditions that find their origins in the "Reagan Revolution."
I'm not sure about the workplace shootings, but haven't there always been school shootings? When everybody was scared to death that their kids would get shot at school, I remember hearing several times that school shootings hadn't gone up dramatically or anything, that the number of school shootings a year weren't any higher than they had been decades prior. I imagine the same is true for workplace shootings, or killings, rather. It's not like you hear about someone going crazy at their job every week, and the news would certainly let you know if it was happening.
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I might will buy that book to just pry into how those hyper rich people think..
and make myself rich too.
and make myself rich too.
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WhiteLion wrote...
Nope, sorry, don't see it, at least not completely. I certainly agree that economic frustration contributes to violent outbursts, but the type of economic frustration referred to here is nothing new, and the claim is that "postal" type shootings are. Clearly, there must be other factors at work as well which cause "postal" crimes to be chosen over rioting or arson or something else.Workers being exploited in the corporate goes back to at least the early industrial revolution in the US. Wages were so low everyone and their kids had to work to make a living. Corporate bosses used the government and even hired armed mercenaries to prevent workers from uniting to collectively bargain. They used monopolies to charge exorbitant prices, created company towns so that the corporation essentially owned you, and engaged in many other morally reprehensible practices. The "Robber Barons" were plenty hated and brutal in their days, and I certainly wouldn't say that this corporate culture emphasized a mutual relationship between corporation and employee.
Why didn't violence spike then(well there were some quite violent riots and battles between workers and corporate hirelings), but why didn't "postal" type shootings spike then? You have exploited, humiliated people being treated like garbage by an elite few, the same things Ames cites, according to your quotes.
Because during those days the individual didn't have such an impact on the vast resources of a company. Unions were very much new and exciting and got the word out; plus, I would imagine people would die or become seriously ill before they even contemplated killing their coworkers. Plus, if you think about it, out West when the Industrial Revolution was kicking off and Captains of Industry/Robber Barons came to be, you were to busy working to literally survive. Nowadays, you can struggle through work a little more comfortably because of the developing surroundings the rich surround themselves with. However, now that the disadvantaged see that comfort as mockery at their strife and go "postal."
Just a theory.
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Callonia wrote...
I might will buy that book to just pry into how those hyper rich people think..and make myself rich too.
Rofl. x2.
I think it's a combination of a lot of things. As Soul_Slayer pointed out, people were literally just trying to survive at the kickoff of the Industrial Revolution so there wasn't time to contemplate all this stuff. American culture idolizes materialism through its fanatic following of celebrities, the lives of rich people in reality television, in the parodies of its mainstream music; it's constantly indoctrinating ideas of the rich and powerful, what the "American Dream" is, how we can go about accomplishing this so-called dream.
We've reached a point of comfort where we have time to think about what we don't have (always subject to advertising, even as I type this), about social humiliation, etc. - not to say this hasn't been happening before. Rebellions have always been man's way of showing they're pissed off, but because our systems are so much more vast and complicated, the only way to get a point across is to get on the news, i.e.: shoot the fuck out of a bunch of people. [Admittedly, "failed rebellion" is an effective, telling term.]
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I font trust charts. There's too many other factors that can affect statistics to truly believe in charts that say, "Well look at the increase here!!!!!111111one!!one."
Seriously, Al Gore had a chart that said the world temperature has gone up way more than it ever has in the past EVER according to some little chart, and using TEH MATH SKILLZ, he explained that if we kept going, the entire world wold be DOUBLE its highest temperature in history within one hundred years. Now, Al Gore ALSO claimed once that he could hypnotize chickens. So needless to say, ever since I saw Al Gore use one, I don't like charts.
Seriously, Al Gore had a chart that said the world temperature has gone up way more than it ever has in the past EVER according to some little chart, and using TEH MATH SKILLZ, he explained that if we kept going, the entire world wold be DOUBLE its highest temperature in history within one hundred years. Now, Al Gore ALSO claimed once that he could hypnotize chickens. So needless to say, ever since I saw Al Gore use one, I don't like charts.