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So Yuuki is... who now? I forgot her name.

0_o

What? kaho is a dude, Krystel you have issues.

Money is the root of all evil.

The parent's behavior is uncalled for. Not the way a parent should act.

I'll probably hold off on this till later. There's other stuff I want first.

Better quality pics of the new Gundams for the 00 movie.




Rafael Gundam


Gundam Harute


Gundam Zabanya


00 Qan[T]

That is probably the best way to find out which character is better. Without their own personal Gundams, using grunt suits would be more fair and then it becomes a test of their piloting skills. Switching each character's Gundams, is somewhat one sided to me. Nu Gundam was built specifically for Amuro and for his Newtype abilities. Amuro using Strike Freedom would pretty much be like using any other supped up Gundam. I think the only thing he really needs is the endurance to control the 8 Dragoons... wait actually no he probably doesn't even need that. Mu was able to use Akatsuki's Dragoons and he was a Natural. I remember in CCA it took a while for Quess to use her funnels and he was a Newtype.

Though most of it is already mentioned, I want to write it out anyways on my take.

Starting with UC:
These Zeon suits in my opinion were more realistic. The design wasn't too fancy and weapons equipped made sense (i.e. the 120mm machine gun which is most commonly used for standard Zeon suits, panzerfausts, standard bazooka, basically projectiles). Also, not all Zeon standard suits were fitted for every environment scenario. Some had to be remodified for either ground or space use. For example, in MS Igloo: The Hidden One Year War ep 3, after Operation Odessa, the Type J Zakus were helpless against the Federation's Ball units because the Type J was built specifically for ground use.

CE:
Every suit paying homage to the UC were able to operate in both space and under gravity. Even the first generation ZAFT suits the GINNs were able to perform the same under gravity as they do in space sans the ability to fly on Earth. Also, CE Zakus, Goufs, Doms were all beam weapon crazy. Although these are because of technological advances, it just seems unrealistic how in only 2 years they were able to mass produce beam weapons to grunt suits while the UC era took at least 7 years even with the captured Zeon technology. The designs copying the original Zeon suits aren't too bad but once I saw the Zaku Warrior, I thought, what? Are the writers running out of ideas? I mean, even though ZAFT suits have the Zeon signature mono eye camera, I thought that the ZAFT suits in SEED were more original than the ones in Destiny.

I have to be honest here, I saw the CE era first and I thought the grunt suits were alright. After I saw the various UC era series, the Zakus, Goufs, and Doms just look totally more menacing than their CE counterparts. Example, the Gouf Custom vs the Gouf Ignited


In 08th MS Team, the Gouf Custom proved to be very intimidating, it held off 2 Gundam Gound Types, Ez8, and destroyed 3 Guntanks all by itself. The Gouf Ignited, it destroyed some other cannon fodder grunts, whatever, nothing special.

More like really happy cat.

Alright then, I'll save the "what ifs" for another topic.

And of course I have to "live with it" but that doesn't stop me from not liking what I see. Actually I think I'm just going to stop here. Seeing how you didn't see CCA for whatever reason, I think it's pointless to continue debate on Amuro vs Kira with you. Don't get me wrong but for one who only has knowledge on Kira doesn't contribute but rather brings a bias opinion.

Edit: I admit, I'm at fault for derailing my own thread and I let my emotions get the best of me during the discussion. I apologize.

I like to add a couple of questions to this:

As to what transpired, do you honestly think that bringing Kira back along with giving him such a bullshit hax Gundam, completely untouchable to an unrealistic scale, made GSD better excluding the fan service?

Then what of the introduction of the Minerva crew? What was their purpose? Why bother even waste time give them such a half ass development when they'll just be thrown away at the end?

Mu's death in SEED, how did this affect his thunder and epic sacrifice in SEED when he came back in Destiny?

What the fuck is the Destiny plan? The explanation was given like what? Two minutes? Hardly enough time to give us a lay out to how "evil" it was if it was labeled so by Kira's band of friends.

Clip shows / constant flashbacks, what relevance to they have? What's the point of having a sequel when half of the time we get flashbacks over and over?

Destroy Gundams, useless cannon fodder MS of destruction huh?

No, the reason why I'm defending Shinn is because you incite him as the ultimate bad guy with the only argument saying everyone hates him deal with it. Him maturing after meeting Kira is just poor writing which doesn't make sense or follow through. It's like jumping from A right to Z. There's no transition. You're completely neglecting the fact that the writers were at fault and ignored my question on what if Shinn remained the main character. You saying everything Kira does his all hunky dory and that everyone that got mad at him are wrong and he's right just cause he's Kira?

Kira only stopped those nukes because of the METEOR and because of that SEED ability. Not only that he got help from Athrun. Amuro stopped Axis with practically v Gundam alone with his hands with no beam saber, beam rifle, or v funnels. Char was able to stop Ra Cailum's nuke attack as well using just his Sazabi which is somewhat equal to v Gundam. So Amuro should be able to do the same. But your point where Kira stopped the nukes was because of 3 beneficial factors. You can't expect Amuro to do the same when all he has is his Gundam and no support units.

Shinn was hated because of the story dude. And come on, the point in Shinn's bratish character in the beginning was to develop as the series progressed. Don't give me that absolute certainty and how he was always hated crap that he was always the bad guy. Look at Kamille, he was practically the same at the beginning of Zeta Gundam, but at the end, he matured. Shinn on the other hand did not because of the lack of development once Kira reentered the series competing for the main character role. You say that everyone hates Shinn for what he is, I agree but only to the extent because of decision to throw away his character development. Really, can a character in any series be liked if he/she wasn't developed enough? No they can't if they started off as unlikable. Think about it for a bit and say Shinn did stay the main character through out all 50 eps of Destiny, do you think he would have matured?

I for one prefer Shinn over Kira because I honestly believe he could have matured by the series end but sadly never got it because of the writer's decision. I know that you know Shinn could have been better.

As for Kira, blowing off the limbs of MS and constantly causing chaos on the battle field making the situation worse for the 2 original opposing sides. Why I said he was naive? Because he thinks that his actions would makes things better, but really look at the results. I forget who said it but I am certain that he said that because Kira showed up, he brings chaos.

Well even so, his "best" intentions still angered both Orb and ZAFT, you can't deny that. Also, him killing Stella also added fuel to the fire and made Shinn fight accordingly. And before you start saying that it's not his fault for killing her, Kira, incapacitated Mu's Windam and there was an explosion causing her to believe he died. Then after Shinn calmed her down, the mere sight of the Freedom made her go berserk again therefore causing Kira to use his beam sabers on the chest cannons. Therefore killing her and making Shinn hate the Freedom even more. The only reason why Shinn is a douche is because of the story. Again discussed in the other thread, the only reason why Shinn became such a hated, hero/villain character was because the story shifted from Shinn to Kira. I am almost certain that if Destiny stay with Shinn as the absolute main character, he would have developed like Kamille did in Zeta Gundam.

I honestly don't care about Durandal. To me, the pacing of Destiny's story line made him what he is at the end. Since what's his face from Logos is gone, they needed a new villain I suppose.

As for Amuro's and Kira's Gundams being taken into account, I did say Nu Gundam. There's also another way to spell it's name "v Gundam". If I were to use Amuro's RX-78-2 Gundam, I would have paired it with Kira's Strike (no striker packs). I would never try to use Gundams that would give either character a disadvantage in terms of Gundam ter. level.

I know, I'm just saying is all.

As for the topic, I'm not even sure who is better. All I know is that Kira's a snob for thinking he can do whatever he wants just to stop a battle (i.e. blowing off limbs of every other MS). I think it's very naive of him to think that by doing so everyone is happy, but quite the opposite. He's actually pissing more people off. I mean look what ZAFT decided to do, an entire operation dedicated to annihilating the Freedom and the Archangel.

Oh, must have missed that. "This" thread got merged with this one today?

Uh... you do realize that this link is THIS thread.

The units Zellgadus mentioned is the most likely. Mobile suits are just too expensive and too complicated to build to become regular main stay units for grunt soldiers. I just remembered now, what about a Mechwarrior? Playing the game, they seem fairly simple to control than a mobile suit.

I wasn't here when Chuu! was around. So there be no fucking way I would know if this was already discussed. But since I made one about Kamille and Shinn, why not give the main main protagonists their own threads for discussion.

Fakku doesnt like IE. Change already.