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Think about it.
Normal people would think that ME, YOU and EVERYONE in this site is sick for fapping/schlicking/dildoing to 2d pictures of cartoons.
Wherever are you going to go now?
People have different tastes. Just leave it at that.
Normal people would think that ME, YOU and EVERYONE in this site is sick for fapping/schlicking/dildoing to 2d pictures of cartoons.
Wherever are you going to go now?
People have different tastes. Just leave it at that.
tokido wrote...
my favorite NTR[zero no mono] Iregui(dunno whether this is NTR or not)
[Yahiro Pochi]So Lovely Irumatio ch.3
say,do you know any NTR hentai anime? besides ore wa kanojo o shinjiteru
Hitozuma Kasumi-san
fave Netorare is MTSP series Tohsaka-ke no Kakei Jijou. Fave housewive themed NTR manga would be that Aoi Hitori series about the husband's kouhai and his wife.
When talking about housewife manga, vanilla or NTR?
When talking about housewife manga, vanilla or NTR?
Anti-NTR? But what you're describing are just netorare NTR stories with "good" endings.
Look at the other side of the argument. Anti-Vanilla for vanilla stories with "bittersweet" endings?
I don't see how that's going to work.
Look at the other side of the argument. Anti-Vanilla for vanilla stories with "bittersweet" endings?
I don't see how that's going to work.
Paracelsus wrote...
If you can't tell the difference in writing I'm sorry because it's a huge problem, writing tells just who is the target of a story instead of another.NTR is NTR. The objective of stealing is still stealing, even if it conveniently lands on your lap. It's still there. The wish to dominate someone else's "belonging", whether it be the wife or the husband or the fiancee or the childhood friend or the mother or the father or the classmate you have a crush on or the girlfriend or the boyfriend or so on and so forth.
Difference in writing does not change the fact that NTR occurred.
Difference in point of view does not change the fact that NTR occurred.
Difference in emotions felts does not change the fact that NTR occurred.
Are you getting it now?
Netori most of the time... Netorare tells you just who he is...
Yes, and? That still doesn't mean the guy is not stealing from someone. In fact, are you telling me it's ok for other guys or women to take the sexual loyalty of the person YOU are in love with just because he don't know you? Knowing or not knowing what the other guy looks like does NOT change the fact that it's NTR.
Netori main characters most of the time are plain boys or sure as heck are not fatasses, not ugly, not looking like punks, not old and are not evil
Stealing other people's women (or men, depending on what you enjoy, I ain't one to judge) are forgivable if the MC is good looking? Are you serious?
the "consensual ntr" happens AFTER the woman got tricked/forced/whatever, that's a fact); they do cheat on the man who's away but it happens randomly, they often are the men at the right place, it's so not a coincidence netori is almost one with incest.
That's not a fact. Consensual NTR can happen if the wife (or husband or fiancee or girlfriend) are completely not in love with their significant other and fall to the seduction of the other party, even without being tricked or forced. That's pretty consensual.
Then, there's ...
Rooting for whoever does not change the fact that it's NTR. The most awesome person in the world would be someone you'd root for, and he's still committed NTR if he takes away someone's lover.
Main character by "ntr standards" is one of ... the chairman is an evil sob.
Standards? What standards? Also, whether the chairman is an evil SOB, that don't make it suddenly not NTR. It still is NTR. But the "good" version of it.
JUST because the guys you are stealing from are worse than the MC, it does NOT mean that makes the work not NTR. You're still fapping to an NTR work.
If SnO had put ... how much writing matters.
NTR is NTR. Stealing is stealing. Succumbing to desires is succumbing to desires. Which is why it's a varied genre. You could do it in so many ways, from so many viewpoints. Chances are, you already fapped to some of them and you just didn't think it was NTR.
About the second-hand: in this particular genre it does matter
You will ONLY rage if you sympathize or INSERT your sorry ass to the MC. If you don't, there is NO rage, hence making this entire argument baseless. Heck, if the guy inserts himself to the woman being dumped with cum, person might feel vindicated, or inserts with the guy who was trying to steal her, he might either feel NTR'd that he lost his target, or just not give a damn at all.
I'd like to see a ntr story where the evil guy seduces the girl without any sort of tricks and she out of her own will lets him fuck her
Shunjou Shusuke - Tomodachi Ijou
Aoi Hitori - Oshizuka ni
Hoshino Ryuichi - Love and Sex
Ozaki Miray - More and More
Those are just from the girlfriend stories of the ones I chose to bookmark. I could try to find more, with different themes like wife, fiancee, childhood friend, etc, but I'm not your personal library service.
Bottom line is: ntr mendoingthefucking make me sick, I'm against forced sex and I usually feel symphatetic for the guy being defeated without deserving it
It's porn with art. People have different fetishes. I ain't going to slag at other people for liking what they like. I'm just not going to read the damn thing I don't like.
If Pisu Hame is netorare...
See, this is where you messed up. Pisu Hame is what's considered a netori manga. Still NTR, but it's not true netorare because it's more like a mix of it, with the MC having a huge dick to equalize the field so he can steal others but be not stolen from. That's why it's also talked about in NTR blogs in Japan as an NTR work. Heck, Shiwasu no Okina said in a blog post about getting the main girl f'ed out of her mind by a bunch of guys in an omake he might release in the future to celebrate the release of the tankoubon. It's not out of Shiwasu no Okina to do this.
He's already made a manga about a guy who NTR's a lesbian couple.
MY point? You're only arguing from one view only. And all I'm saying from my posts is that NTR is NTR. Netorare and Netori, two different sides of the same coin. They are only verb conjugations of the same word after all.
No one's telling anyone to like both. Just saying, IF you like Netori and you hate Netorare, that's freaking normal. But that also means you like NTR, and are a hypocrite at the same time for saying NTR is crap, because you already fapped to NTR.
It's the same way other people can enjoy son and mom incest but not like daughter and dad incest. Both are still incest, but of two different sides of the coin. People have different tastes. The sooner you understand that, the sooner you'd let go and stop making up things to make it seem NTR is a very shallow genre when in reality, it's of a very wide variety of topics with many kinds of endings, and is probably far more engaging than other genres because of the "you're not really sure what'll happen" factor.
Netori is still NTR just because of verb conjugation. The difference in writing is there, that doesn't absolve the action. Stealing is still stealing. Fucking neglected wives is still a process of stealing the wives or their sexual loyalty, hence NTR.
NTR itself does not have any connotations of blackmail, deceit or force. It's just "steal/take". Consensual NTR also exist: examples would be normally very horny characters just can't stop themselves and let the juices flow. There also isn't even a definition based on deserving it or not. Why do people keep adding things to NTR when even the Japanese just use it to describe situations where someone gets stolen/taken away from someone else? Is it because it makes you feel better about yourself? That you're not a hypocrite because you already fapped to the thing you say you hate?
Also are you telling me that if you "neglected" your wife because you're working hard to feed her and buy her the nice stuff you can afford, it's ok for another guy to come in and fuck her just because that guy's the "MC" and she's neglected? Really?
And regarding the "second-hand turn-off": That still doesn't change the fact that the endings will vary. Whether a woman is "second-hand" or not changes nothing. That's like saying vanilla genre endings don't matter just because the guy managed to bang the main girl = it's all the same. It shows a distinct sense of denial and becomes a matter of MY TASTES > YOUR TASTES. And mere subjective opinion is hardly fact or useful in defining anything.
NTR itself does not have any connotations of blackmail, deceit or force. It's just "steal/take". Consensual NTR also exist: examples would be normally very horny characters just can't stop themselves and let the juices flow. There also isn't even a definition based on deserving it or not. Why do people keep adding things to NTR when even the Japanese just use it to describe situations where someone gets stolen/taken away from someone else? Is it because it makes you feel better about yourself? That you're not a hypocrite because you already fapped to the thing you say you hate?
Also are you telling me that if you "neglected" your wife because you're working hard to feed her and buy her the nice stuff you can afford, it's ok for another guy to come in and fuck her just because that guy's the "MC" and she's neglected? Really?
And regarding the "second-hand turn-off": That still doesn't change the fact that the endings will vary. Whether a woman is "second-hand" or not changes nothing. That's like saying vanilla genre endings don't matter just because the guy managed to bang the main girl = it's all the same. It shows a distinct sense of denial and becomes a matter of MY TASTES > YOUR TASTES. And mere subjective opinion is hardly fact or useful in defining anything.
People always say they hate NTR, but they probably already fapped to some form of NTR already. NTR isn't just netorare, it's also netori, since both are conjugations of the verb netoru, the word where NTR comes from. NTR simply means someone taking away someone else from somebody else. The guy who can take away someone else can also be the main character, you know?
You don't even need sex for NTR to occur. That's why the Japanese colloquially use NTR to describe some guy or girl taking someone else's [enter object of affection here].
Meaning a lot of your harem hentai manga where the Main Character does someone else's wife and takes her loyalty away from the husband is an example of NTR. Or girlfriend. Or crush. Or you cockblock your best bud and bang his love interest.
Yes, it's still NTR even if you do not see the other guy (or girl) that the MC is stealing from. That does not change the fact that he just committed the verb known in Japan as netoru.
And no, NTR does not require relationships to be intact already. You can steal someone else's crush and that's regarded as NTR in Japan. It doesn't even require love to be present in the relationship you're stealing from. NTR-netorare normally makes people sad, but there are people who view these things from either the viewpoint of the guy that steals or the woman who is enjoying the most mindblowing sex she's ever had. No emotions are even involved in the etymology of the word where NTR originated.
If you hate NTR, that's all fine and dandy. But when you go around and enjoy NTR like netori (MC doing the stealing) or cheating stories (which are mostly NTR, they just keep it a secret from the husband/boyfriend/[enter title here]) and don't even know that you're enjoying it, that just screams hypocrisy.
It's just like people thinking doujinshi = porn, or doujinshi = one-shots and manga = long series. You gots yer definnishin's raung.
EDIT:
By the way, the hypocrisy stems from:
OH NOES HE STOLE MY [x] THIS IS BAD
But when you don't insert to the guy who's being stolen from since you started the series from the point of view of the Main Character who is essentially doing the stealing:
OH YEAS I'M BADASS JUST BECAUSE I GOT TO BANG [x] THIS IS GOOD
See where I'm going with this?
EDIT: EDIT:
To the people saying it always leads to the same point: DUDE, you can basically say that about every other genre in the business.
At least with NTR, the suspense is there, because you don't know if it's gonna be 1.) a good end or 2.) a bad end or 3.) a kickass end or 4.) a TWEEEST end or 5.) bittersweet end.
And that depends on from what point of view the story is shown from:
1. The guy being stolen from
2. The guy doing the stealing
3. The girl being stolen
*genders can be changed to whatever pleases you, it's still NTR
And the relationship can be wife, girlfriend, cousin, sister, childhood friend, etc, etc.
So the possibilities become endless at this point.
You don't even need sex for NTR to occur. That's why the Japanese colloquially use NTR to describe some guy or girl taking someone else's [enter object of affection here].
Meaning a lot of your harem hentai manga where the Main Character does someone else's wife and takes her loyalty away from the husband is an example of NTR. Or girlfriend. Or crush. Or you cockblock your best bud and bang his love interest.
Yes, it's still NTR even if you do not see the other guy (or girl) that the MC is stealing from. That does not change the fact that he just committed the verb known in Japan as netoru.
And no, NTR does not require relationships to be intact already. You can steal someone else's crush and that's regarded as NTR in Japan. It doesn't even require love to be present in the relationship you're stealing from. NTR-netorare normally makes people sad, but there are people who view these things from either the viewpoint of the guy that steals or the woman who is enjoying the most mindblowing sex she's ever had. No emotions are even involved in the etymology of the word where NTR originated.
If you hate NTR, that's all fine and dandy. But when you go around and enjoy NTR like netori (MC doing the stealing) or cheating stories (which are mostly NTR, they just keep it a secret from the husband/boyfriend/[enter title here]) and don't even know that you're enjoying it, that just screams hypocrisy.
It's just like people thinking doujinshi = porn, or doujinshi = one-shots and manga = long series. You gots yer definnishin's raung.
EDIT:
By the way, the hypocrisy stems from:
OH NOES HE STOLE MY [x] THIS IS BAD
But when you don't insert to the guy who's being stolen from since you started the series from the point of view of the Main Character who is essentially doing the stealing:
OH YEAS I'M BADASS JUST BECAUSE I GOT TO BANG [x] THIS IS GOOD
See where I'm going with this?
EDIT: EDIT:
To the people saying it always leads to the same point: DUDE, you can basically say that about every other genre in the business.
At least with NTR, the suspense is there, because you don't know if it's gonna be 1.) a good end or 2.) a bad end or 3.) a kickass end or 4.) a TWEEEST end or 5.) bittersweet end.
And that depends on from what point of view the story is shown from:
1. The guy being stolen from
2. The guy doing the stealing
3. The girl being stolen
*genders can be changed to whatever pleases you, it's still NTR
And the relationship can be wife, girlfriend, cousin, sister, childhood friend, etc, etc.
So the possibilities become endless at this point.
raichama wrote...
MTSP's Tachibana-san's Circumstances with a Man is actually quite a good one. I find the fat guy in the Tohsaka-ke series superior though. No drugs, no threat of violence, and his fatness isn't as disgusting as other fat guys in other hentai, like he's really an elite businessman. I think he managed to make the mom and the older sister cum, but not as strong as part 2's orgasm.
BAYANI98 wrote...
Well, I'll be more specific: I'm referring to stories where the girl gets seduced/raped yet still permanently returns to her original boyfriend ala shoujoThat's not Anti-NTR. That's just plain NTR. It has a "good" ending, but having a good ending doesn't change the fact that it's an NTR story. The guys who just wanted to do the NTR failed at their attempt.
BloodyWind wrote...
Lolz. Was reading comments on doujinshis. Reminds me, who are the seven horsemen of ntr?
I got Nagare Ippon and Takeda Hiromitsu in there.
I've got MTSP/Jin to add to that.
He's also the artist that makes my favored type of NTR. The mild kind where it's a slow process without actual physical force involved. The target does her best to fight back, but the guy is just too good sexually for her to resist.