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Tegumi
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WhiteLion, I commend you for trying where I failed, but I doubt anything short of being 120% reasonable will work.
Tegumi
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gizgal wrote...
I'm always up to talk lol! You know how to find me.Weren't we Skype buddies?
Tegumi
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Gravity cat wrote...
I'm not hiding anything. If anything, I feel like I can be myself on here because nobody on here is a total c*ckmunch.>read first post in 600+ page thread
>reply to it
Tegumi
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Tsujoi wrote...
@Tegumi: By cat, you mean dog? Right?I MEAN CAT
animefreak_usa wrote...
Me and my dog baby squirrel Daisy.Spoiler:
Freaking adorable.
Tegumi
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https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=73898
Shill harder.
Shill harder.
Tegumi
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Tsujoi wrote...
Show off your pets?Spoiler:
like...3 years ago....or something...
I need a cat. Get one and love it for me.
Tegumi
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https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=11519
Tegumi
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I wish I could give you some better advice but I'm a shut-in and sit inside all day. :(
Tegumi
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BigLundi wrote...
Clearly you didn't even read the thread.Same to you. You claim I haven't given a single valid point, I can claim the same. The world is not black and white, I'm sorry. Good day.
Tegumi
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You're not embracing uncertainty at all. You're saying, "they're uncertain, I'm ok with this", then lumping them into a category they didn't necessarily want to be a part of.
Read this thread.
www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/528.252546-Poll-agnostic-is-not-the-same-as-theist-and-atheist
No, it's not an official source, nor from an authoritative figure. It is, however, a progressive discussion which you may understand better than my explanation. Thread OP is you, essentially. Practically everyone else in the thread is me. Have a good read.
Read this thread.
www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/528.252546-Poll-agnostic-is-not-the-same-as-theist-and-atheist
No, it's not an official source, nor from an authoritative figure. It is, however, a progressive discussion which you may understand better than my explanation. Thread OP is you, essentially. Practically everyone else in the thread is me. Have a good read.
Tegumi
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BigLundi wrote...
...Not really. I nfact it says next to nothing about the person that says it. If you mean it's a statement that means something...well sure, in the same way that all statements mean something. Other than that though...I fail to see the efficacy of pointing out disbelief, it does nothing more than restate my own definition of atheism.What I mean is that it isn't "I'm not sure".
BigLundi wrote...
And the fact that you said, "Does not mean that people can only believe on or the other" is ALSO a complete misunderstanding of me, as well as shows you didn't watch the videos that I gave you as examples of people far more articulate than me explaining the concept.YOU called it a dichotomy. YOUR words, not mine.
BigLundi wrote...
I will say this one more time. There are two claims.1. there is a god.
2. There is not a god.
An uncertain person is a person who doesn't believe either claim. That person is an atheist, due to the faqct that the etymology of the word says as much, some dictionaries say as much, and the vast majroity of atheists say as much, and I BELIEVE we have the right to define our own label how we wish, and your opinion on what atheism means doesn't in any way effect how we atheists identify ourselves.
See, no. You say "person who doesn't believe either claim", I would refer to it as "person who isn't sure". But even if we go with your assertion, it still doesn't work. If disbelief in religion, then disbelief in disbelief in religion is also true. Which is why don't refer to an uncertain person as someone "who doesn't believe in either claim".
BigLundi wrote...
snipThere's really a lot here about hypotheticals, not answering questions, and not understanding viewpoints. See, here's the thing: I understand YOUR stance, because you've repeated it at least 3 times. You say that because whether or not god exists is a dichotomy, that human opinion must also fall within such. I say that humans are by nature fickle and uncertain, and therefore can actually have their opinion exist in a state of uncertainty. You -sort of- address this by saying "that's not answering the question", which honestly is a refusal to accept -- a "that's not an acceptable answer" rather than the question not being answered.
I'm not going to go and find proof that people can say "I'm not sure" and mean it. It boggles me that you cannot understand or reject the idea that humans can be piddling and indeterminate, but if that's the case no amount of persuasion will get you to think otherwise.
Tegumi
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BigLundi wrote...
Which, as I said already, is in no way a 'strong' thing. It's simply not believing. It doesn't mean anything else. I fail to see how darkness is being a "Strong non color." If you understand what I mean.Strong or not, it is a certain statement.
BigLundi wrote...
Ok, how about this? We'll do this one step at a time.Do you agree with the following statement:
There either is a god(or gods) or there aren't.
That you're asking me this is proof you don't understand or are willfully ignoring what I said. Just because there only exists a state of 0 or 1 does not mean that people can only believe in one or the other. Uncertainty is a state that exists within the human psyche.
Tegumi
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BigLundi wrote...
However, you're completely wrong on "Disbelief" since it literally translates to "Not believe." That's not strong at all.In action you would say that you "do not believe", which is what I mentioned earlier.
BigLundi wrote...
If you keep researching this, I can almost gaurantee you'll come to the same conclusion I did. Trust me, I used to be in your position, I used to actually come to this very forum and post that atheism is a rleigion, and that I was an agnostic that was being intellectually honest. Rbz shut me RIGHT the fuck up about that.Of course he did. Atheism isn't a religion. Which part did he shut you up on?
BigLundi wrote...
Again, being an atheist in no way means that you believe there are in fact no gods, unless you define yourself to be that way when you become an atheist. Agnosticism is NOT a middle ground between atheism and theism, because it addreesses a completely different question.I'll agree that I had the definition (via etymology) of 'agnostic' wrong, but I still cannot agree with you that religious belief is a dichotomy -- for reasons I stated earlier.
Tegumi
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Recently bought:

Would have taken more but I had to run to class and my phone stopped being responsive.

Would have taken more but I had to run to class and my phone stopped being responsive.
Tegumi
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I don't believe in a dichotomy on this subject. Practically any broad subject which is reliant on human opinion will not be one or the other, in almost every situation there are shades of gray.
Now- wiki supports my assertion rather than yours, as it says REJECTION, which is as assurant as an opinion can be. Disbelief is still relatively strong - how would you describe that on a personal level? You would say, "I don't believe", which is quite the conviction.
Your article is interesting and all, bringing in knowledge as a "z-axis", but I humbly disagree. Humans are not computers, set to states of 0 or 1. Our opinions are not boolean values. If someone has not made up their mind about their beliefs, they are not ascribing to either or, and I'd doubt they'd appreciate being told they are.
Now- wiki supports my assertion rather than yours, as it says REJECTION, which is as assurant as an opinion can be. Disbelief is still relatively strong - how would you describe that on a personal level? You would say, "I don't believe", which is quite the conviction.
Your article is interesting and all, bringing in knowledge as a "z-axis", but I humbly disagree. Humans are not computers, set to states of 0 or 1. Our opinions are not boolean values. If someone has not made up their mind about their beliefs, they are not ascribing to either or, and I'd doubt they'd appreciate being told they are.
Tegumi
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cruz737 wrote...
dick moveNah, I told you it would happen and it did. Mean maybe, but not uncalled for.
Renovartio wrote...
I also can't find threads that I would be interested in posting in. The threads I was interested in I already posted in them. Generic questions tend to stay on the first page. Nothing really eye catching or intriguing seems to come along. Things like Philosophy or one of those random questions that makes you think. Its usually stuff like "whats your sex" or "which is better." Not saying that there isn't other types of Threads I'm just saying that's all that I tend to see.Well, I suppose I can understand you finding these "answer one line" question threads uninteresting, but honestly I find the threads in IB and CTFG even less so. Actually, I find them completely mind-numbing drivel compared to the things in Random.
Tegumi
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Your argument has a loooooooooot of cracks in it, buddy. But I think the biggest one is that "Atheism" is generally defined as solid rejection of higher powers, putting it in the realm of "NO" rather than "maybe, maybe not" or "YES".
Also, your analogy isn't really a good fit to this argument either, you might want to find another.
Also, your analogy isn't really a good fit to this argument either, you might want to find another.
Tegumi
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cruz737 wrote...
I don't think the purpose of that shop was to make fun of each thread individually but to emphasis that there's a lot of threads about religion in SD, some of them being down right awful.Oh, we're all well aware of that, nobody is disputing it.
Renovartio wrote...
Well thanks for the grammar correction. =P Last time I checked Random it looked just like IB... then ago that was months ago. SD is normally the same topics always being on 1st page. I always figured it was like that because of new posters posting their thoughts and everyone else was just retorting each others posts. Constant arguing over the same topic doesn't appeal to me.Just what I think is all.
No, we actually take pretty good care to make sure Random and IB aren't the same. As for Serious Discussion, the influx of new threads is nowhere as frequent, but it doesn't mean we always have the same threads.
Wow my name is really lon wrote...
Are you too thick-headed to realize that I did basically summarize the names of the majority of thread types in SD? I'm sorry I didn't take the time and effort to think of a literal sarcastic summary for each thread title specifically tailored to meet your style of humor in the five minutes I had before my bus arrived on my netbook using paint. Next time I'll be sure to think twice before I post something that could provoke the inner demon inside Tegumi that must belittle and criticize others eight times a day in order to stay sane.
Oh, I understand the intent of your thread. But I never take to exaggeration too well, and that's exactly what you're doing.
Tailored to meet my style of humor? I never said it had to be, I just said it would be more amusing if you had actually put some effort into it.
Tegumi
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I feel like "I'm not sure" is a perfectly valid answer to the question "Do you believe in god", also, your second question in reality has three answers: "I know there is a god", "I know there isn't a god", and "I don't know"
Labeling everything as either-or is a really close-minded way of viewing things.
Labeling everything as either-or is a really close-minded way of viewing things.
Tegumi
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BigLundi wrote...
It doesn't matter.The simple act of not accepting the claim that god exists defines you as an atheist.
That's actually agnosticism.

