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Side note: I do wish more people would not care about rep, it's an utterly useless number that means absolutely nothing on these forums.

Not sure if that was at me, but ill address it so as to clear up any misunderstanding. It's only rep manipulation if you're using an alternate account to do it. Continuously de-reping someone because you don't like them or they were mean to you a few times isn't against the rules, it's just real fucking childish. If anyone on Fakku does something like that and we have to look into it, they wont be banned but I will think less of you(possibly the other mods too?).

Dropping by to remind you guys(no one in particular) rep manipulation is against the rules, anyone found to be guilty of it will be punished. Also to anyone who's fighting please for the love of God grow the fuck up, this is an adult porn site, act like it.

Gonna take this down in a few days.

Dropping by to remind you guys(no one in particular) rep manipulation is against the rules, anyone found to be guilty of it will be punished. Also anyone who's fighting please for the love of God grow the fuck up, this is an adult porn site, act like it.

Yeah, I don't consider it a "victory", I'm simply too drained to continue to argue when there is no possible way we're going to convince each other. I still don't agree with the "better at deterring" comment but there's no point even talking about it. So I guess I'm just dropping it?



Not exactly a knee-jerk reaction when what I'm talking about is the norm up here, and almost everywhere else. You get you're not the only country in the world right?

It doesn't mean there's less crimes then there would be without firearms.

You've agreed to the points I care about and if I continue this circular argument will never end. So I gave a brief read of what you wrote and it's probably the closest Ill ever get you to may way of thinking.

If anyone did it was tms with his draino comments.

Maybe you should pick a new pervy come on...

I said they were created as weapons of war.



On your cultural heritage and pride, 2 things you can put aside to prevent needless human loss of life. You're not fighting against government oppression anymore.



You haven't proven there would be less crime, just that Americans prevent a number of crimes with guns.(not something I disputed btw) You have no idea what your society would be like without guns so unless we use the stats of other countries we have nothing to go on.



I kinda have proven that though, every other nation has less firearms per capita, has less violent crime, less gun deaths, and when comparing America to it's cultural brother or any other nation that has a similar past they still have less violent crime. Blame all the extenuating circumstance you want but this is really about Americas liking guns and not caring about the deaths of the less wealthy.



Everyone has that luxury, it's a choice cruz. So she isn't dead and is getting a security system, smart. If either of them had a gun that might have ended differently, thank you for providing that video.

Didnt you say you had retrograde ejac freak?

Yep, I made the original statement, guns replaced the crossbow as a weapon in war... So your link doesn't refute my point, it's talking about something different, something I wasn't arguing.



Still not "refuting" something I said...



We're up there per capita, you're around 88 guns per 100 resident, and we're around 30, which places us 12th in the world. Not sure why a war you fought 250 years ago means you need guns today but you're right, you don't NEED guns... you simply want them.



There would be less crime and gun deaths if you didn't have guns.



Sorry, find those sources yourself, I'm willing to take them. I'm not bringing MSNBC into this or other left wing groups to argue my point, you should avoid doing so as well.



You'll stop more people from committing most violent crimes altogether if you simply don't have firearms anywhere except the police, it's not all mental instability that's killing people with guns.



I'm not really arguing to convince you so I don't care if the source you gave me has any faulty statistics, I only came back when you mentioned how your link "refuted" my post when that wasn't what I took from the link.

You asked for a source, and I gave you mine, I answered your "source" and pointed out how almost none of it was related to my points. If you want to argue about my points we can, but that wasn't what you showed me.



Ill quote something off Wikipedia that I found on the per capita page as I was writing my post to cruz

About the requirements of owning/obtaining a gun in Canada:


I'm a conservative but I just don't see the need; some criminal robs me at gunpoint he can fucking have my money, ill write up a police report and that will be the end of it. If someone wants to kill me for no reason while robbing me it'll make his life more difficult and ill be dead, so it's hard to care.

Trolling.

I didn't ignore them, I took the time to read them and most of which deal with points I haven't even made.

"The majority of Americans favor strict new additional federal gun controls."

I never made that point.

"The only purpose of a handgun is to kill people."

Again, not my point, guns were created to replace the bow, a weapon. Other uses exist, but that was never my point.

"Since a gun in a home is many times more likely to kill a family member than to stop a criminal, armed citizens are not a deterrent to crime."

Never said that.

"Honest citizens have nothing to fear from gun registration and licensing which will curb crime by disarming criminals."

Good point, criminals aren't affected by gun laws, so let's do away with background checks altogether... That doesn't even make sense, if you just didn't have any guns there would be nothing to fight over.

"Stiff `gun control' laws work as shown by the low crime rates in England and Japan, while U. S crime rates continue to soar."

Here he says their point doesn't take into account many things like cultural, and economic differences between the United States and other nations. Solid point if I wasn't Canadian and live in a culture which is similar to your own with a weaker economy than yours, where are the gun deaths here?

"Most murders are argument-related `crimes of passion' against a relative, neighbor, friend or acquaintance. "

Don't think I made that point either.

"Semi-automatic firearms have no legitimate sporting purpose, are the preferred weapon of choice of criminals, and should be banned."

Was never my point but I do think trying to argue that you need an ak-47 to hunt elk is a bit ridiculous.

"The righ t guaranteed under the Second Amendment is limited specifically to the arming of a `well-regulated Militia' that can be compared today to the National Guard."

Seems they made a typo. My question was why do you need that anymore? Not a debate about the wording made 250 years ago.

"A person in a public place with a gun is looking for trouble."

Again, this was never my point? Do you even know what the word refute means?

"Gun control reduces crime."

Gun deaths, my point was that you would have fewer gun deaths without guns.

P.S. This whole article you use to "refute" my points was written and researched by the NRA... you can do better than that, they aren't a legitimate source just as you wouldn't take anything from MSNBC or the Democratic Party.



Do you not believe what I'm saying as it does not suit your point? I don't mind showing you where I got my info.

here.

Less than 1% is still more than everywhere else in the world. It's fine to work on the mental health issue but lets start by not allowing those people to LEGALLY PURCHASE FIREARMS...



How many of those crimes would happens if the criminals didn't have guns themselves, you're right in that you need them now because you've given EVERYONE a gun, but if you simply removed them you'd have a lot less deaths in your country.(there can be no debate about this) No guns = less gun deaths, that simple. I did differentiate between homicides and accidental and otherwise.





You pointed out how minorities have the most gun murders... how is that not you linking them to gun violence? You may not believe them to be the problems but that doesn't change what your words implied. I'm not trying to blame guns, they're inanimate objects, people are obviously the problem but as you cannot find a solution to solve the problem why don't we just get rid of all the guns(except those in the hands of law enforcement and military) and let the police deal with crimes.

Now my posts have context and Ive examined yours more closely, if you want to continue I'm all for it, but find a different source other than the NRA.



Can you believe in my Country I'm what you would consider a conservative?(your Republicans)

Sindailf would catch the fly right away, bugs are a source of protein.

I can do that in the story of Ziggy.

Is that an actual argument? There's 70 million guns so we should ignore the 400,000 deaths in the last 15 years? So one in 300 wackjobs can get his hands on a gun(as there is 70 million) and kill some innocent people, good thing it was only one...



The man from Oregon legally owned 13 guns, and was not marked as a risk to society when he purchased them during background checks. Self defense? Against what? Europeans and Canadians don't need guns, we make it hard(harder than Americans) to purchase and obtain firearms. Our violent crime is at a fraction of what the United States has, if you want your number to lessen you should start by removing the tools designed to kill. Why would you need to collect more than one gun? Again, it's because you like guns, plain an simple.



You're right, you didn't learn from history; the United States has a violent crime epidemic and exist no where else on earth.(perhaps war-torn countries) You may blame minorities for all of those crimes but you can also point to the tools of death they use, and only one of those issues can be removed.

So it comes down to this: you can't remove minorities from major cities so you either restrict guns(like the sensible nations that exist) and save a lot of your citizens, solving most violent crimes, or you go on as always having, killing your own citizens with inaction.



Hopefully you remain that way, it doesn't take much for someone's mind to break.

I don't mind people who have guns, I have friends that own a few(hunting rifles) just as long as they stay the hell away from me with their guns.

Old ass bitch.

Ok, so that's wrong.

Why is that a right you need? You say that as if the Government is trying to take away the right to free speech, or the right to a fair trial. Between 2000 and 2014 there's been close to 165,700 gun homicides and 420,000 gun deaths(underestimate), compared to the 3,300 deaths due to terrorism during that time. How can a reasonable person possibly justify numbers like that just to keep a right which doesn't apply anymore. Aren't you concerned about the amount of deaths simply because Americans believe it's their God given right to carry firearms? What other rights do you think Canada, or anywhere in Europe have been taken away because of the lack of gun rights? Gun permits don't even stop people if background checks aren't done, the guy from Oregon had a permit. Stop lying to yourself, you want firearms because you like firearms... no other reason, seems like a flimsy reason to fight for considering the amount of people lives that hobby has cost.

The secret to how I've kept my job all this time is that I know just how to push Jake, so thay won't be happening.



Not really classified, it disappeared in the crash. I mentioned coco-tan is the next story.