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Like what if it was just a random user unrelated to koko and had no idea the name was taboo, then I would imagine some sort of email conversation would be had. The OP post pretty much removes any chance of that though.

Interesting...

Then as stated earlier: you don't belong here. You can't refuse to convert to this section's culture and expect no one to object when you toss up stupid or beta comments. The very nature of the board is to eat people like you.



Probably but that doesn't change any of the facts, I am a moderator, I can force people to change and will if I feel like it. Make your own website if you don't like that, www.carebears.net is probably still free.



If it does then it means he wasn't able to adapt quickly enough, but as I have evidence that some users have been able to adapt in the past I have no reason to treat him less severely. Like I said "sink or swim".



Did you read the rest of my post? I never hid my hostility. I do want him to get better(I called it a secondary goal) but my overall goal to mock him couldn't have been missed, a blind retarded monkey could see my intent, so how did you miss it? You act as if my primary goal is in direct conflict with my secondary when it's not. I can have my cake and eat it too.



That's complete nonsense, the vast majority of people who are paid to critique others, or to help other human beings(psychiatrists, psychologist) are narcissists. I do recognize others would do my job differently, they do do my job differently(the rest of the staff), but I'm not asking him to conform to my standard of moderation, I'm asking him to conform to the sections standard of posting. I don't understand your point here, you're pretty much just complaining about how you believe he would handle things differently than I would and that you believe his method would be better. What I don't understand is why you think your opinion matters? You're incensed that I'm an egotistical jerk? So what of it? It doesn't make your opinion matter more, nor does it make you right. Thus far I've had evidence that my methods work and I've seen nothing but hostility and failure arise when I haven't stepped in(the way he was treated by the community before I even spoke to him is evidence).

As a final note: that's a weird point you made about the name of our forums and sections because if I look up at the menu bar it says forums and when I was a section moderator the site owner called us section moderators. Perhaps you should leave your knowledge of other forums out of our debate, they're wrong and make you look ignorant of our customs.



That's good for you, you're a really good person. Back in the real world where the rest of us live I'm a grey area, someone who's is both good and bad. Like the rest of the world I prioritize my own interest over those of others. It doesn't mean I don't care about what's good, nor the best interest of those around me, but on these forums I'm permitted to put them behind my own. I have nothing to justify, it's simply the facts.



(Hiding behind the title of moderator, how mature.)[/quote]

I am a mod, I can force others to do what I want. I'm not hiding, I'm presenting facts. I don't see how maturity has anything to do with this. You're trying to do the same thing to me, you're attempting to force your preachy self-righteous(some might say arrogant) opinions and ideals on me but the only difference is you have no power to enforce it.



Confidence and bravado are indistinguishable from each other on a forum, so regardless of which I have in abundance they both amount to the same thing: someone with more power than you telling you how things are. It still has nothing to do with this debate or my choices.



All people who post in IB seek acceptance, the other forums may give people knowledge or assistance among other things but IB is special.



I mock people and it's okay because that's both what the section is for and what I want to do, helping is just an added bonus if it happens.



I have admitted countless times in the past that I'm an asshole and love acting this way, it seems maybe you just didn't get the memo. I'm not beating around any bush, I can't be more clear about my message, but you seem to have trouble grasping it. Maybe you should spend more than 5 minutes on a website so you can get a better understanding of your surroundings in the future. What this seems to come down to is you don't believe I can both help him and mock him, and I do; good thing it's up to me which path I choose to take.



I agree, Fakku is tame, and the other mods do deal with it differently than I do. Now you're trying to guess at my motives, and we've barely gone on our first date. I'd at least like to get the cheque before you try to boil my entire psyche down into "he has self esteem issues". You don't know me very well and you don't know these forums at all it seems so while your soap box is pretty it's not something I've never seen before. You think I'm a big jerk, you don't like the way I do things, you think you know everything about me and think I should be fired. So this is where I tell you all of that is meaningless, you won't get me fired, you wont convince me to reform(as you've stated nothing but your opinions and indignation), and you won't change this section's purpose or the culture of it's community, save yourself some time and either leave this section or get used to how things work around here. I just saved us both 10 pages of back and forth where you leave unsatisfied.

I will give a retelling of the Ramsus incident tomorrow with my thoughts as it happened, there was a thread missing from what pyre posted. After that ill do my first hibia incident and maybe follow up with the coco thing.

I won't do a post a day but it might be nice to get em done every 2-3 days.

btw anyone who doesn't think respect exists on Fakku is an idiot and anyone who thinks it doesn't matter isn't a regular here or has down syndrome.

I think it might be a good time to give a detailed account of how I became a mod and quality poster on Fakku, too few of you were around that far back and I think it will help the new people to understand what I mean when I berate them for being shit.

I started off as many of you did: overly nice and non-confrontational, my post were polite, I was careful not to offend anyone and I unremarkable. A month in and only 2-3 users even knew who I was. I mostly kept to the Random section because IB didn't even exist.

As time went on I noticed users enjoyed my comments more when I was sarcastic and funny. The reputation system did more to shape my early time on Fakku than any other single user. A rep here, a rep there and I learned what piqued public interest. At this point I still was fairly tame and did nothing to offend others, I wasn't considered popular but some of the popular users knew who I was. I was starting to have fun. This is when I started to spread to other sections of the forum, got into some debates in SD(it was far better than it is today), started giving advice in the Love, Romance & Relationships section(as one of the few who had some experience with the opposite sex). I was learning what it meant to post outside my section, the feel was very different, more serious, I didn't dislike them I just didn't feel like I could have as much fun as I did in Random.

One day I met a user named Ziggy Otaku who immediately struck me as overly emotional, we got into a couple of debates and most of them ended in her getting angry. I was still being pretty non-confrontational and posted more of a grey area rather than the black I turned to soon after. Her birthday came around and as we had a history of hostility I assumed she probably didn't want a birthday message from me but I did notice something that I wanted to ask about. I asked her where her friends were and if she would be spending time with them on her birthday(I even added a disclaimer saying I meant no hostility). I guess it was a sore spot for her because her immediate response was to lash out as if I was attacking. Then TMS decided to don his troll cap and answer my question with "it's because she's fat and ugly and has no friends". That turned into the first major shitstorm that I had been involved with on Fakku. I ended up losing 50 rep in 2 days and I assume it's because they believed that I was the cause of tms's reply.

It also awoke something in me, I found my first true love: arguing with multiple people. I found that it was more fun to find a point I felt I could defend or something I felt I could attack and see how many people I could get to argue with me about it. I didn't like when people came in to support my side(as it happened more and more as I gained notoriety) because I then had to try and argue their points as well even if they said something retarded. I learned that if I kept a clear concise argument and logically broke down the opponents argument I could easily counter it.

It wasn't long after that some of the staff started to really take note of who I was. Jacob and mike would tell me to tone it down but secretly laugh at the people I would destroy. It wasn't all bad, I helped the staff out more than one might expect, I spent a good amount of time in feedback giving and shooting down ideas to help improve the site and gave private council to the staff over skype. The A-Team skype call was alive and kicking at this point so I found my group of friends(many I still consider friends today). I was eventually given a 3 day ban for telling a user named Angelus that "I was put on this earth to mock retards like you". After that ban I decided to reform my ways(because I wanted to be a mod so I would never be banned again). I started busting my ass to make the site better, not to kiss ass and whatnot but simply to tone down my inner troll and work on the betterment of the site.

I spent nearly a year like that with no traction with the staff. I decided trying as hard as I did was pointless, they didn't seem to hire people who were trying to be staff. Eventually I met Jake in real life(as I was fleeing the country, a story for another time). After that something that shook the very foundation of Fakku happened, the Hibia and Tranquility scandal. Jake had to fire them both and that opened up some room for new moderators, something I had given up on months before. Jake asked Tegumi and I to fill the slots as section mods.

Life as a section mod wasn't much better, everything I said was reviewed, every move I made had to be sanctioned by Jake. Until he knew I could be trusted he wanted an account of what changes I made. I would argue with him over how things were done or any time I wanted to do something that I thought was necessary. It became more of a cage than I expected and I started to dislike the position. I knew it might lead to position as global mod but I had to put in the time as a bitch boy for a while. Almost a year later I was made global mod and finally I reached my goal; the ability to do what I want, say what I want without having to worry about anything. I could make threads and argue about anything without having another mod lock it. I could move threads that I didn't think belonged in one section to another(the Ramsus incident). It was awesome.

This parable is meant to inspire those of you who have not found your way yet. IB is not the section to use if you want to discover your style, it's the section where you use your style when it's completed. Post in Random, post in the video games section, learn how to go from ordinary to extraordinary. Then you can come back to IB to earn some respect.

There are many other stories in the parable of waar but I don't want to take up too much of your time. I will probably add chapters such as the "epic of coco-tan" and the "lament of eg's suicide". I'm also willing to take requests if any of you remember something and want me to talk about what I remember about the incident.

No I understood you, I covered your "they will eventually get better" with my "IB/I don't have time to wait". I don't believe I took my style from other users to be honest, there were no hostile users before I came, it is entirely based on my own version of trial and error. Fakku is my first forum and the only one I visited during that period of my life. You don't have to believe what I've just stated, it means little to the overall argument.

You're right, I'm trying to force my ideals and standards on him and the rest of IB, as the moderator that is my right, you don't like it? Apply to be a moderator yourself. My advice was not to rush, it was to take a step back and read more before he came to post. There are a number of users who have followed that advice and come back to be pillars of this community, it's very hard to deny the successful nature of the idea. You may not like my method but you don't have to, you're not my boss.

There is no false guise, I was very clear about how I enjoy mocking people, and if it helps someone get better it's a bonus. My primary goal on Fakku is to enjoy myself, making IB better is only secondary. Don't think for a second that I really care about making friends or making people feel welcome in IB, that's for other sections. You want a soft touch, go pm gambler and he'll give you all the love and support you want. I deal with IB, the gutters of this forum and it's up to me how I'm going to administer the "lessons". Solid's willingness to overlook other users problems is because he isn't in a position to change them, I am. Final point; confidence and arrogant bravado are the same thing on a forum.

Ive decided to deal with new users this way, my way because it's how I manage to find enjoyment amongst all the shit I have to deal with. I will continue to do so until I quit or am fired. You want someone softer, then you apply to be a moderator and you can hand out all the limp dick advice you can come up with. Until that date you're just going to have to deal with me.



1. Agree to disagree then.

2. Sounds good.

Part of what I'm talking about: right here. It feels like you're trying to suck about 50 dicks a second. Read what's being said, reflect on it, and say nothing. If all you do is learn then you can't say anything to make matters worse. If you think you're capable of posting later then by all means but right now it feels like you're purchased real estate on my balls and wont be leaving until you've sucked them dry.

It's not like it matters much. It's either koko and I banned another one of her accounts or it's not koko and I banned someones alt account.

Complete Horizon, that second post you made was pretty bad, you're also guilty of trying a bit too hard. Chill out and read more of IB before you jump in.

1. Really? The majority of old users on this site have no idea what happens in the sections they don't visit. I would say forums are actually one of the worst places one would go to learn about events, even if those events are forum related. Also there are quite a few users who do know what happened in the past without having been there, I wanted to emphasize that he wasn't one of them.

2. The typo implies nothing, it turns a valid statement "makes you seem stupid" into a nonsensical one "makes you see stupid", I would hope anyone with a 3rd grade reading ability could determine my meaning. Perhaps you're underestimating him now.

Long post, feel free to ignore it if you don't like seeing me beating up retards.

The only downside is I have no fucking clue who you are.

Being outgoing is fine, getting to know the community as well. Just don't try to press it too hard, it really turns people away. You people have social autism... better known as autism.

Everyone has some level of desire for connection and acceptance otherwise there would be no reason to post at all, so you do care and it's only up to you whether you accept it sooner rather than later. Those of us who have been here long enough to have gained that desire and need it less as we already have people and friends who acknowledge us, you on the other hand have a few if any. That desire of yours is leading you to post stupid things that lead the rest of us to think less of you(something you care about regardless if you want to admit it). It has nothing to do with helping me sleep at night, it doesn't affect me in the least, it's your uphill battle I'm trying to help(God knows why). I'm not arguing, you weren't an active member here when lol12 was doing his thing so there's really nothing to argue about. You're a baby here, and that's alright, no need to get defensive about it.



What you consider tryhard'ing is irrelevant, it's what you look like to the public that matters. Most of your posts are poor attempts to emulate other user's posting style; it wasn't hard to catch.

Your current style looks like an attempt at logical argument(a style I know well) but you don't pull it off; as if you're trying to act smarter than you are. If I'm incorrect then I should be even more disappointed in you because it means that you came by this style naturally which in turn means the flawed logic you tend to use is entirely your own.

Find your own posting style, something you can pull off easily in a casual manner rather than a hastily prepared facsimile of a better user's style. Try to avoid the same "EVERYONE LIKE MEEEEEEE" stuff that broski also suffers from.

You're new here...

It probably wont amount to much.

Oh shit, you're right, it's the dude i banned for a month. Looks like it's perma time.

It's partially you trying to be funny and partly trying to seem old/as if you know whats going on. You're a newfag and everyone knows it. You weren't around when bob was, so your comment about having to "deal with this again" makes you see fucking stupid. Most of your posts scream "everyone like me PLSSSSSSSSSSS". If you take this as hostility you're sorely mistaken, I'm simply trying to explain how foolish you look to the rest of us.



Sure it was, kid. Right now solid you're king of the tryhard club.

2% amusing.

When all the bad users leave, I will as well.

Yeah, whole bunch. The fact that you're asking is proof enough.

You're trying too hard. We know you're new, you don't have to impress anyone. Stop trying so hard.