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I provoked you to click on this topic with a controversial topic name, but I will justify my statement as I go. Skip down if you don't have any time to read my thoughts on the subject.
I pondered to myself midway through stroking my keyboard to generate the account that would allow me to post this:
Was this a case of too much want?
Was I demanding too much from a free service that I should expect it to be of a high grade?
I recalled all the other sites I visited, all of their splendor, all of the features they offer to their users to encourage them to post more, to communicate more and to have a healthy community!
I became depressed from the ill maintenance this site has suffered year in and year out as I visit it, lurking quietly. I fear for my posts and my account so dearly that I'd create another account to report these issues.
The incompetency of the only operator, who clings to his position of power without any improvements or services to the community he utilizes to garner free money to sustain server costs that could be cheaper given less load.
I see his front page posts that promise features (multi-tag searching anyone? it's been months!). Before he finishes what he started, he finds a way to plunder the community more by implementing a store. He enjoys creating things no one uses, and posts them as news shamelessly. I've seen him apologize for deleting live databases and having week old backups, and more recently a whole month of data.
There is no excuse for destroying user's data. If you were about to work on the site, and about to make changes that could possibly erase 720 hours of users interactions, you should know better after the years of operating than to suddenly start playing with things without a backup. Website development isn't as hard as you make it out to be, Jacob.
You're a somewhat charismatic man, who loves to be praised and loved, Jacob. You've gone to Japan, you've made it into conventions and spoken at them, you've made tons and tons of friends along the way. You've made industry contacts, you've got the pageviews to back it up, Jacob. Your home page professes your love for yourself and what you do, Jacob. You even brag about a project that you've now removed from FAKKU's public eye, which I wonder about. I noticed that Sanshee's gelbooru shirts now redirect to FAKKU's store. That seems underhanded.
Do I think I could do better? Of course I do, why else would I be posting my critique.
I believe in reporting openly the shortcomings of systems, I believe in the community knowing every staff decision other than in incredibly sensitive cases. When the site is in disrepair, it is no longer a staff issue - every user is affected.
Although now I expect the site will fall into more disrepair as he takes on a job with BioWare doing their front end design for a TOR website/community.
-- For those of you who got bored and skipped ahead, I can hardly blame you.
Table of tl;dr:
- ViewOnline issues
Too lazy to correctly do much anything
- Post body missing
- Halloween announcement
- stripslashes() not applied liberally
- Rewrites are pointless and frustrating to navigate
- Links to nonexistant content
- Video tags aren't usable for videos
- Pagination on forum search
- Translation groups is messy
My examples are numerous, not only in [null], [null], and [null].
If you hadn't noticed, not a lot happens to posts in here. It's so bad that people can make the same bug report twice, and chase each other up about the topic already existing.
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This manga has 28 pages http://cdn.fakku.net/8041E1/c/manga/a/ashfordacademy/images/028.jpg but only up to page 26.jpg exist on viewonline. Why? There are duplicates early on. Take a look at the code on the viewonline page.
There's a json element (var data=) that is generated by PHP rather than read from a url/file which is slightly cheaper in terms of memory/cpu tradeoff on an already bogged down site running some heavy phpbb variant.
A script to quickly clear dupes out and rename the remaining back down isn't difficult. Python could do it, bash probably does it well too with a plethora of command line utilities for detecting duplicate data. It's not done because it's never been reported before, so here's my report. It's not my fault all of this is broken, I gave you years of time. Don't blame me for reporting angrily.
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Posts can become 'invisible' (no body to any posts). I doubt Jacob even knows where to start to fix this bug, but it's assumedly a math/pagination error. It's hindering to user experience, and should be worked on right now. "Marry your beloved user" is linked to in Sushimi's signature, but the post isn't visible at the time of writing this post.
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The Halloween announcement is on every single page, but commented out. (Line 147 on posting.php?mode=newtopic&f=6) You know you could just delete that right? How long ago was halloween?
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Post titles (title=) does not have stripslashes() applied to it. A petty example, but I can't be bothered compiling a massive list of all the places where sanitation fucks up user experience. They're pretty common.
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There are some cool rewrites that make browsing look nice [/manga/japanese] but they only serve to complicate things for people looking to surf manually with URLs anyway. You could argue that it's good for SEO, but SEO does not give a shit about URL names these days.
Maybe if you spent less time trying to figure out how to structure URL rewrites, you'd be able to try to fix some of the actual problems users have. As it stands, URL traversal is so convoluted and inconsistent that it's impossible to guess what URLs would work and what URLS you've not written rewrites for.
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https://www.fakku.net/doujinshi
404 Error
Reason: The page you are trying to view does not exist.
https://www.fakku.net/manga/volumes
This feature is not available yet.
https://www.fakku.net/manga/popular
This feature is not available yet.
https://www.fakku.net/manga/controversial
This feature is not available yet.
Why even bother creating links to features you're not working on? Gross.
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Video tags link to the manga based tags. It's not that hard to make a seperate table/category.
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Pagination on his forum search is still broken. This page outlines Page 51 of 629, but the URLs along the bottom point to 68. Not very helpful.
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Do you ever do maintenance? It's cool that you allow them to add multiple translation groups, and that it's modular enough to allow users to create those groups on the fly, but does a typo really need to become a static group?
By now, user reading this text, I'm sure you've noticed that I've said 'you' a lot. Don't worry, they're all aimed at the man who operates this site. From what I've seen he's the one responsible for it all. Don't take it personally, Jacob! I'm just trying to help by pointing out your shortcomings to you. I'm sure you also noticed how I trailed off at the end here. There's so many minor and major mistakes that I lose my energy and excitement trying to list them all and why they shouldn't be ignored for longer than 24 hours.
There are no laurels to be rested on. Only the sweat and tears of development. At least Jacob only lists his title as FAKKU Creator rather than FAKKU Developer. You wouldn't deserve that title anymore, Jacob. Give it to me!
I pondered to myself midway through stroking my keyboard to generate the account that would allow me to post this:
Was this a case of too much want?
Was I demanding too much from a free service that I should expect it to be of a high grade?
I recalled all the other sites I visited, all of their splendor, all of the features they offer to their users to encourage them to post more, to communicate more and to have a healthy community!
I became depressed from the ill maintenance this site has suffered year in and year out as I visit it, lurking quietly. I fear for my posts and my account so dearly that I'd create another account to report these issues.
The incompetency of the only operator, who clings to his position of power without any improvements or services to the community he utilizes to garner free money to sustain server costs that could be cheaper given less load.
I see his front page posts that promise features (multi-tag searching anyone? it's been months!). Before he finishes what he started, he finds a way to plunder the community more by implementing a store. He enjoys creating things no one uses, and posts them as news shamelessly. I've seen him apologize for deleting live databases and having week old backups, and more recently a whole month of data.
There is no excuse for destroying user's data. If you were about to work on the site, and about to make changes that could possibly erase 720 hours of users interactions, you should know better after the years of operating than to suddenly start playing with things without a backup. Website development isn't as hard as you make it out to be, Jacob.
You're a somewhat charismatic man, who loves to be praised and loved, Jacob. You've gone to Japan, you've made it into conventions and spoken at them, you've made tons and tons of friends along the way. You've made industry contacts, you've got the pageviews to back it up, Jacob. Your home page professes your love for yourself and what you do, Jacob. You even brag about a project that you've now removed from FAKKU's public eye, which I wonder about. I noticed that Sanshee's gelbooru shirts now redirect to FAKKU's store. That seems underhanded.
Do I think I could do better? Of course I do, why else would I be posting my critique.
I believe in reporting openly the shortcomings of systems, I believe in the community knowing every staff decision other than in incredibly sensitive cases. When the site is in disrepair, it is no longer a staff issue - every user is affected.
Although now I expect the site will fall into more disrepair as he takes on a job with BioWare doing their front end design for a TOR website/community.
-- For those of you who got bored and skipped ahead, I can hardly blame you.
Table of tl;dr:
- ViewOnline issues
Too lazy to correctly do much anything
- Post body missing
- Halloween announcement
- stripslashes() not applied liberally
- Rewrites are pointless and frustrating to navigate
- Links to nonexistant content
- Video tags aren't usable for videos
- Pagination on forum search
- Translation groups is messy
My examples are numerous, not only in [null], [null], and [null].
If you hadn't noticed, not a lot happens to posts in here. It's so bad that people can make the same bug report twice, and chase each other up about the topic already existing.
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This manga has 28 pages http://cdn.fakku.net/8041E1/c/manga/a/ashfordacademy/images/028.jpg but only up to page 26.jpg exist on viewonline. Why? There are duplicates early on. Take a look at the code on the viewonline page.
There's a json element (var data=) that is generated by PHP rather than read from a url/file which is slightly cheaper in terms of memory/cpu tradeoff on an already bogged down site running some heavy phpbb variant.
A script to quickly clear dupes out and rename the remaining back down isn't difficult. Python could do it, bash probably does it well too with a plethora of command line utilities for detecting duplicate data. It's not done because it's never been reported before, so here's my report. It's not my fault all of this is broken, I gave you years of time. Don't blame me for reporting angrily.
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Posts can become 'invisible' (no body to any posts). I doubt Jacob even knows where to start to fix this bug, but it's assumedly a math/pagination error. It's hindering to user experience, and should be worked on right now. "Marry your beloved user" is linked to in Sushimi's signature, but the post isn't visible at the time of writing this post.
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The Halloween announcement is on every single page, but commented out. (Line 147 on posting.php?mode=newtopic&f=6) You know you could just delete that right? How long ago was halloween?
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Post titles (title=) does not have stripslashes() applied to it. A petty example, but I can't be bothered compiling a massive list of all the places where sanitation fucks up user experience. They're pretty common.
----
There are some cool rewrites that make browsing look nice [/manga/japanese] but they only serve to complicate things for people looking to surf manually with URLs anyway. You could argue that it's good for SEO, but SEO does not give a shit about URL names these days.
Maybe if you spent less time trying to figure out how to structure URL rewrites, you'd be able to try to fix some of the actual problems users have. As it stands, URL traversal is so convoluted and inconsistent that it's impossible to guess what URLs would work and what URLS you've not written rewrites for.
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https://www.fakku.net/doujinshi
404 Error
Reason: The page you are trying to view does not exist.
https://www.fakku.net/manga/volumes
This feature is not available yet.
https://www.fakku.net/manga/popular
This feature is not available yet.
https://www.fakku.net/manga/controversial
This feature is not available yet.
Why even bother creating links to features you're not working on? Gross.
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Video tags link to the manga based tags. It's not that hard to make a seperate table/category.
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Pagination on his forum search is still broken. This page outlines Page 51 of 629, but the URLs along the bottom point to 68. Not very helpful.
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Do you ever do maintenance? It's cool that you allow them to add multiple translation groups, and that it's modular enough to allow users to create those groups on the fly, but does a typo really need to become a static group?
By now, user reading this text, I'm sure you've noticed that I've said 'you' a lot. Don't worry, they're all aimed at the man who operates this site. From what I've seen he's the one responsible for it all. Don't take it personally, Jacob! I'm just trying to help by pointing out your shortcomings to you. I'm sure you also noticed how I trailed off at the end here. There's so many minor and major mistakes that I lose my energy and excitement trying to list them all and why they shouldn't be ignored for longer than 24 hours.
There are no laurels to be rested on. Only the sweat and tears of development. At least Jacob only lists his title as FAKKU Creator rather than FAKKU Developer. You wouldn't deserve that title anymore, Jacob. Give it to me!
animefreak_usa wrote...
Can we all just wait until another great crash and burn. It's come soon when jacob find a new boner to rape with.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
Welcome to fakku.. you need coke to get the admin attention.Should I make this a front page post then?
I suppose that's a little rude. I'll just wait for Jacob's attentions.
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Good luck. This site is falling apart and no one seems to care. I get that Jacob is busy now, but that doesn't excuse the deplorable condition of Fakku. There has to be quite a few, expert level coders on Fakku, who Jacob can trust to voluntarily fix some issues on the site. Or if not, if he has a job now, he can hire a damn webmaster.
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Tsurayu wrote...
Good luck. This site is falling apart and no one seems to care. I get that Jacob is busy now, but that doesn't excuse the deplorable condition of Fakku. There has to be quite a few, expert level coders on Fakku, who Jacob can trust to voluntarily fix some issues on the site. Or if not, if he has a job now, he can hire a damn webmaster. Luck has little to do with outcomes, but thank you for your well wishes. Only through time investment and cleverness could this site recover. Amusingly, I'm one of the high level coders. I wouldn't claim that I'm an 'expert', that would be arrogance, there is always more to learn. Although programming in itself isn't difficult in the slightest for those born of logic.
Excuse my incessant posting in this thread. I like to think by contributing my time I will receive attention and obtain the desired changes.
PS: The little doll in my avatar is FAKKU.
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Darkhilt wrote...
Meh, you think we don't realize all of the OP XD. But again, what are we to do? Again, Fakku is our cherished place where we can convene with others of the same feather, the same value.Whilst it holds many problems that you may not find in other communities, where else would you find such a collective such as our own?Know this, Fakku is a gift, as such, do you have a right to judge it? Say as you will on it's various faults, Fakku is something we hold dear, to chatter along with absolute impunity about how it's not to your liking isnt a sign of love towards it, but of disrespect and unthankfulness.Be grateful!Lest we, the denizens of a forsaken people that have outcasted, be forced to return to the mindless masses.Anyways, with all due respect considering I think I know who you are, this isn't the only time we've been called to see the cracks within our splendorous society here, and it won't be the last.Look past it.Let the smoke recede and just walk along, we would wish for that smoke to never be there but it rises all the same.Until we are headed by a man who truly can portray care for his fellow weebs and otakus alike, we are susceptible to the allure of the prospects of reality as we leave this place.Jacob is like any of us, a man of two worlds that if given the opportunity, might rethink devoting his efforts into such a taboo profession such as maintaining this place.
Very empathetic. 'What are we to do?' We are to bring to light such uncomfortable issues and remind the only person who can help to bring in some help. Ignoring issues by 'looking past' them is not the path to fixing them, especially when there is such a large and active community.
I understand that the community is developed and caring for its peers, however this does not excuse the leadership for not locating and diverting others time and energy into the faults. I offer myself here, but I have given him years. I saw his request for developers some time ago, and I assumed he'd try again given no developers.
Since you asked me apparently rhetorical questions and listed 'facts' I will address them.
where else would you find such a collective such as our own?
Gelbooru, Doujin-Moe, E-Hentai, TheDoujin, Danbooru, etc.
do you have a right to judge it?
Every user has a right to judge a service, and as a nihilist I would be doing myself a disservice if I were to avoid bringing up apparently uncomfortable issues.
A man of two worlds?
He does not hide from his existence, this site is his life, intrinsically. It's on his homepage, it is how he gets work, it is what he makes reddit AMA posts about. I do not hold guilt for my perversions, so I wouldn't consider this to be a separate 'world'.
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That's all very well, now, with this light what will YOU to do?Should empirics prove that these problems have been allowed to persist, with our benefactor working at what we believe to be the minimum, how does this lead to the change that we wish to prevail?We cannot task the man who is deaf and more than likely blind to our predicaments the same way we cannot banter on the impossible to gain ground.
Through proclamation of problems we seek to see resolved by a turned eye are we asking for pity or are we screeching retribution?Are we left to squander that which has been given or raise a coup d'état?
Through proclamation of problems we seek to see resolved by a turned eye are we asking for pity or are we screeching retribution?Are we left to squander that which has been given or raise a coup d'état?
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Darkhilt wrote...
That's all very well, now, with this light what will YOU to do?Should empirics prove that these problems have been allowed to persist, with our benefactor working at what we believe to be the minimum, how does this lead to the change that we wish to prevail?We cannot task the man who is deaf and more than likely blind to our predicaments the same way we cannot banter on the impossible to gain ground.Through proclamation of problems we seek to see resolved by a turned eye are we asking for pity or are we screeching retribution?Are we left to squander that which has been given or raise a coup d'état?
Are you to say that the boy who operates this site should turn a blind eye to it when he gains so much from its existence? For I am forced to call him a boy if (which I doubt) he disregards his responsibilities so fervently. I'm sure he cares, but has not invested enough time in correcting or finding assistance.
It's hardly about what I should do, it's his responsibly as the operator and owner of the site. I have done all I can; tell everyone and offer my help.
I doubt you can raise any further points that will convince me that my position is invalid given that you do not list where my points are invalid, so let us not ramble on and create too many posts in a thread for a boy who is already too busy to read it.
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That's cool and all. But why not try helping the man then, since you noticed all those mistakes, and are possibly whining about it all.
Just saying that "Anything you can do, I can do better" won't help this site at all, you know. :|
also, this topic won't be deleted. The only topics mods will delete are stupid, irrelevant ones.
Just saying that "Anything you can do, I can do better" won't help this site at all, you know. :|
also, this topic won't be deleted. The only topics mods will delete are stupid, irrelevant ones.
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Uzumaki101 wrote...
That's cool and all. But why not try helping the man then, since you noticed all those mistakes, and are possibly whining about it all. Just saying that "Anything you can do, I can do better" won't help this site at all, you know. :|
also, this topic won't be deleted. The only topics mods will delete are stupid, irrelevant ones.
'The man'. From this one statement, I assume your standpoint is entirely emotional loyalty, which I am perfectly fine with.
I offered my help. I offered a list of things I would change. To say that my post is simply me proclaiming how good I am would be to misinterpret it. I am saying I noticed, I am saying it needs change.
I am allowing my post to take a heated (which appears as whining to you) tone because I believe that that may get it the attention it needs for action to be taken.
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ananonymoususer wrote...
Darkhilt wrote...
That's all very well, now, with this light what will YOU to do?Should empirics prove that these problems have been allowed to persist, with our benefactor working at what we believe to be the minimum, how does this lead to the change that we wish to prevail?We cannot task the man who is deaf and more than likely blind to our predicaments the same way we cannot banter on the impossible to gain ground.Through proclamation of problems we seek to see resolved by a turned eye are we asking for pity or are we screeching retribution?Are we left to squander that which has been given or raise a coup d'état?
Are you to say that the boy who operates this site should turn a blind eye to it when he gains so much from its existence? For I am forced to call him a boy if (which I doubt) he disregards his responsibilities so fervently. I'm sure he cares, but has not invested enough time in correcting or finding assistance.
It's hardly about what I should do, it's his responsibly as the operator and owner of the site. I have done all I can; tell everyone and offer my help.
I doubt you can raise any further points that will convince me that my position is invalid given that you do not list where my points are invalid, so let us not ramble on and create too many posts in a thread for a boy who is already too busy to read it.
I don't find your point invalid at the least, I'm just questioning its ability to solve anything and asking, now that you have provoked response and thought from the community, how are you to now affect the boy who is as you say irresponsible and apathetic because of sloth like actions we have seen so vagrantly?
Oh lord XD that edit is utterly destructive.
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Darkhilt wrote...
I don't find your point invalid at the least, I'm just questioning its ability to solve anything and asking, now that you have provoked response and thought from the community, how are you to now affect the boy who is as you say irresponsible and apathetic because of sloth like actions we have seen so vagrantly?Oh, thank you for the clarification. I was mildly confused.
This thread alone will not be my only action, but I believe it to address points that no one has been addressing publicly. It also proves my ability to locate and determine serious errors.
It is hopefully insulting enough to garner attention from such administration. Even if I am not selected as a logical code monkey, I would think it will provoke administration to change before change is forced upon them.
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Waar wrote...
This should have been an e-mail.Publicity is the only solution for laziness - even if Jacob is strained for time, this will create an issue strong enough to make him address it.
Rather than a letter to the Governor who doesn't mind his community in disrepair (possibly incorrect assumption), I'm holding a town meeting.
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ananonymoususer wrote...
Darkhilt wrote...
I don't find your point invalid at the least, I'm just questioning its ability to solve anything and asking, now that you have provoked response and thought from the community, how are you to now affect the boy who is as you say irresponsible and apathetic because of sloth like actions we have seen so vagrantly?Oh, thank you for the clarification. I was mildly confused.
This thread alone will not be my only action, but I believe it to address points that no one has been addressing publicly. It also proves my ability to locate and determine serious errors.
It is hopefully insulting enough to garner attention from such administration. Even if I am not selected as a logical code monkey, I would think it will provoke administration to change before change is forced upon them.
XD And there we have it. While I have to say that for a fact we have been addressing it publicly, perhaps not with as much vigor or stalwartness, I'm assured that atleast some good will come from this. But as my dear waartortle suggested, much good is to be garnered from direct confrontation, it has lead to small actions being undertaken in the past and I'm sure with direct and undeniable prose it can do such again. Best of luck as change here seems to be held by a boulder.Enciting revolt is all good until we reach a breaking point where we in fact can suffer or cause negative repercussion.
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The main flaw with this site is that everything is top to bottom. Only a small number of users can upload content, and while there's the danger of prohibited or spam content to be posted, the inclusion of users actually makes the site "cleaner". While a mod might miss 1-2 things when a lot is uploaded, at least one of the million of users would catch it. Something as simple as tagging in Gelbooru, or expunging galleries in e-hentai.
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The main flaw with this site is that everything is top to bottom. Only a small number of users can upload content, and while there's the danger of prohibited or spam content to be posted, the inclusion of users actually makes the site "cleaner". A mod might miss 1-2 things when a lot is uploaded, but at least one of the million of users would catch it. Something as simple as tagging in Gelbooru, or expunging galleries in e-hentai.