[Locked] Discussion: Unlicensed Content Removal

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animefreak_usa Child of Samael
luinthoron wrote...
Haggus wrote...
I wonder what the subscription price will be... for monthly or yearly(if possible)... will it be a ridiculous price like $60? $100? Probably not but still a possibility.


$12.95 a month, according to the subscription beta thread in the Books section.

Or about how much the magazine cost in japan. 798¥+400¥= 1098. 9.15 add shipping 3-400 ¥.12.10 to 12.90.
You really paying extra for English.
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The only thing that makes EH complicated is having to factor in the H-verse game to get credits, or doing other activities to get hath or GP. Otherwise, the UI is straight forward and simplistic: you turn off the categories you don't want, you keep the ones you do highlighted. Once you have an account, going through that nice long list of settings lets you have it your way. Maybe that's the complicated part?
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Is there a way to access the metadata from this site? I know that the titles are still here because the titles of some of the supposedly removes works still pop up in the search bar. I was organizing my re-reads under artists but what I am actually interested in are the scanlators/translators. FAKKU is as far as I know the only aggregate site that strictly enforces full disclosure.

While we are at it: Are there other sites that also always credit their scanlators?
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luinthoron wrote...
Haggus wrote...
I wonder what the subscription price will be... for monthly or yearly(if possible)... will it be a ridiculous price like $60? $100? Probably not but still a possibility.


$12.95 a month, according to the subscription beta thread in the Books section.


So it is $12.95. It a good price but sucks to be me, since the Canadian dollar dropped at lot recently. I believe this is the USD price so for me it is currently $17.19 CAD to $12.95 USD
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I edited this after seeing you guys actually seem to be reading this thread, instead of just using it as a bucket to stuff all the crap comments in.

Not going to lie, i only came here because you consistently provided content i was interested in for free. I could never imagine openly being interested in things presented in this site, it is the same reason i could never allow myself to pay for its services. I hope you don't destroy the well you have created by becoming a known specific nitch pornagraphic material website. I'd like to think such a collection was created by people simply in there love to spread what they also loved... It makes since, and because you have become one of the most known free providers, you have the ability to stear it in the new direction while riding on your old reputation...

The only meaningful destination to be discovered is... Will you survive?

If you dont, you will have lost everything, even your reputation... For nothing.
Is the risk worth it?

In the business world, a risk is a statistic, to the individual, reputation is everything. What does this risk mean to you?

Is it simply an outcome? Or everything you have worked for up to this point?


p.s.

Cant say i blame you, the older you get... The more you need money.
And the more passion sells out to it.

It is the nature of world i suppose.
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RNGtan wrote...
Is there a way to access the metadata from this site? I know that the titles are still here because the titles of some of the supposedly removes works still pop up in the search bar. I was organizing my re-reads under artists but what I am actually interested in are the scanlators/translators. FAKKU is as far as I know the only aggregate site that strictly enforces full disclosure.


I think that this would be really useful.
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KAN-Man Meat Supreme
derman190 wrote...
RNGtan wrote...
Is there a way to access the metadata from this site? I know that the titles are still here because the titles of some of the supposedly removes works still pop up in the search bar. I was organizing my re-reads under artists but what I am actually interested in are the scanlators/translators. FAKKU is as far as I know the only aggregate site that strictly enforces full disclosure.


I think that this would be really useful.


Jacob has just started a thread answering this:

Jacob wrote...
Each item also includes a link to the FAKKU API where you can find all of the meta data associated with that item.
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There is a way to look at the content in the API aka the images that were removed but the method i found is well rather slow and tedious.... at least it works.
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Drifter995 Neko//Night
Haggus wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
!!walw6pK4Alo wrote...
FinalFox wrote...
Regarding the export tool, can we have a official confirmation or at least comment about that? Everything we know about that derives from a single post which could have been nothing more than a temporary thought.
I asked about that here a month ago. (Ideally, a reponse there would be great, to keep the information a bit organized)


Their response, unless we're shown otherwise, will be something nebulous along the lines of "it'll happen when it happens" which means it might not at all.


It's confirmed in progress, and is coming. Stop getting your panties in a twist, and be patient


Am rather interest to count the number of days until it actually released. Quite funny if it would be 5 years from now, unlikely but still a possibility. I'll be honest with you, it doesn't really matter how much they say "it coming". An perfect example are games that were announced but took years even up to 8 to be released.


Would you rather a game come out riddled with bugs to the point it is unplayable, and not be able to be used for months? (looking at you batman)
Or would you prefer they take those extra few months to finalise the game, and give it a flawless launch? Or rather, a much less flawed/ buggy launch?
The obvious answer is the second one. Rushed games are ruined games. Ruins the experience, ruins the sales, ruins everything. First impressions count, and a large number of sales are given first impressions.
Now, obviously there is a difference between a few months and 8 years. We aren't sitting on a duke nukem here, as there is much bigger things in the works behind this game, not just this code. I would consider this more a kh3, albiet with it being announced much later. The studio is working on other massive (and bigger) things in the background, and working on this as well. Granted in this case, it's not that hard, but when staff is limited, and the deadlines are overdue/ on you, the bigger picture takes the cake more so than the little picture. That doesn't mean the little picture will be phased out entirely. Just means it may be a bit late.
So, both of those scenarios would probably come into play, more than likely all at the same time.

Either way, it'll happen soon. It'll happen before the big transition (which is planned entirely for the end of the year, which I assume they are aiming for). I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out in the next few weeks. From my understanding, things may be progressing in the transition side of things (if the achievement dropping is anything to go by), so, that makes me think it'll happen soon. May not, but, I'm not fussed.
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Drifter995 Neko//Night


Mah bad. But, I wasn't wrong, haha
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It's a real shame that all of this has happened. I realize that there probably wasn't really an alternative path and that the creators of this website think that they're doing what's best for everyone in the long run, but for me this is a real shame and downgrade. Real selfish I know but that's how I am when it comes to my hentai. A lot of the content that I came to this website for has all been essentially removed and isn't coming back. Been here for almost 3 years but I think it's time to move on...

Regardless I wish you luck in your endeavor with this website.
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Set cancel wrote...


The only meaningful destination to be discovered is... Will you survive?


While I'm also extremely upset about the loss of so much (free) content (where the fuck are my monster girls, incest, and shouta!?!?!), I know that with the offer of fully uncensored official manga available for sale they'll have no trouble staying around. I know for a fact I'm never, ever, EVER going to subscribe. But I will definitely purchase any books I see that I like.

I can comprehend the fact that apparently some legal action was taken against this site, hence the horrible changes. At the same time FAKKU is now pretty much under corporate rules now, and will be focused more on making a profit. Pulling income from the porn site advertisers AND for the poor twits that actually want to subscribe as well as selling (and PUBLISHING)uncensored books.
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623 FAKKU QA
darknile wrote...
While I'm also extremely upset about the loss of so much (free) content (where the fuck are my monster girls, incest, and shouta!?!?!),

You know, several shota and incest works have been uploaded.
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623 wrote...
darknile wrote...
While I'm also extremely upset about the loss of so much (free) content (where the fuck are my monster girls, incest, and shouta!?!?!),

You know, several shota and incest works have been uploaded.


And monster girls? WHERE!?!? (foams at the mouth).

[EDIT]Ah I see, they brought back all the tags... sort of. Lets just say they're drastically reduced and cut back about 99% from what we used to have... Monster girls has been reduced to a mere pittance (severely disappointing and artwork is shite), and incest is majority of books one has to buy or subscribe to site to even read... Not cool. Off to see what they've done to shouta.
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623 FAKKU QA
darknile wrote...
623 wrote...
darknile wrote...
While I'm also extremely upset about the loss of so much (free) content (where the fuck are my monster girls, incest, and shouta!?!?!),

You know, several shota and incest works have been uploaded.


And monster girls? WHERE!?!? (foams at the mouth).

Do you have controversial content filter on? Check your account -> settings -> user preferences and see if the filter is on because that hides manga that has those tags as well as forced.
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623 wrote...
darknile wrote...
623 wrote...
darknile wrote...
While I'm also extremely upset about the loss of so much (free) content (where the fuck are my monster girls, incest, and shouta!?!?!),

You know, several shota and incest works have been uploaded.


And monster girls? WHERE!?!? (foams at the mouth).

Do you have controversial content filter on? Check your account -> settings -> user preferences and see if the filter is on because that hides manga that has those tags as well as forced.


No I didn't have the filter up. I checked all the tags (glad to see they got those back up), but hardly any free stuff, or purchasable items that weren't subscription only. Still not cool. I've already purchased $80 worth of digital books here. I'll just stick to popping over every once in a while to see if there are any good releases I might be interested in.
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Drifter995 Neko//Night
darknile wrote...
623 wrote...
darknile wrote...
623 wrote...
darknile wrote...
While I'm also extremely upset about the loss of so much (free) content (where the fuck are my monster girls, incest, and shouta!?!?!),

You know, several shota and incest works have been uploaded.


And monster girls? WHERE!?!? (foams at the mouth).

Do you have controversial content filter on? Check your account -> settings -> user preferences and see if the filter is on because that hides manga that has those tags as well as forced.


No I didn't have the filter up. I checked all the tags (glad to see they got those back up), but hardly any free stuff, or purchasable items that weren't subscription only. Still not cool. I've already purchased $80 worth of digital books here. I'll just stick to popping over every once in a while to see if there are any good releases I might be interested in.


There won't be much free content for a while. Especially free content in the niches you want. Soon most of it will be removed, then after that, they'll slowly work up their mag numbers, and then work out a free system for those who can't or don't want to subscribe.
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Coconutt wrote...
jamescameron298 wrote...
That's what hentai should be. Free


What a selfish thing to say, the work somebody else does should be made available free of charge for you, because of reasons. Should all music, tv shows and films be free too for everybody, because you can pirate them from the internet anyway?

Have you thought about that maybe the work you do (even though you sound like a teenager who hasn't done any work) should be made free of charge for the company you work for?

jamescameron298 wrote...
unless you want to pay for the top-notch premium stuff.


So it is ok to charge a fee for the "top-notch" stuff (what ever that means) but if it goes below that, it should be free?

jamescameron298 wrote...
But now you guys are going ahead and doing all this? I'm sad. No matter what you may say, this feels like a money making deal rather than a customer satisfaction deal.


If majority of your customers are based on the service of providing pirated material for free, and you as company decide to go from a pirated service to a legitimate service, yeah sure the customer satisfaction may have not been the first priority, but in a capitalistic society, every deal we do is a money making deal apart from charity (or you just don't know how to make money).

(This is just how i feel about it)
This deal is more about what is right morally and ethically, it is not about making money. Jacob (as far as i know) wants to do the right thing for the people who actually freaking make hentai, not by what is ONLY right for the consumer. But if you people are too blind or naive or young to understand that benefiting the original content producer is what benefits everybody from the producer to the consumer, then i suggest you try to create something of your own and try to make a living from it.

jamescameron298 wrote...
Fakku should remain mostly free, with all these "unlicensed artists and content". Because that's what makes up the majority of Fakku, and what makes most users happy. I feel if the majority of decent content becomes paid for, you will lose a massive amount of users. But that's just my thoughts, and I think a good amount of people share those thoughts, so please take into consideration the satisfaction of your users.


Yes, we should all support the majority even when the majority is in the wrong, am i right? Guys?

I bet Jacob has thought about a lot of the majority who just want to fap to hentai and don't want to pay for it, but if he has decided to take Fakku! into a direction that he feels is the right way even if it goes against the cries of the majority, then you just gotta live with it.

Took a while to see these notifications, been a while since I've been back on Fakku. What I was saying is that sure, hentai artists who use this as their main source of income, I'll pay for their content. No problems there. But maybe people who do this stuff without a license, without income from it, their stuff has been removed, and that's where a lot of good stuff was. Some of my favorite work was from non-licensed creators, and I think that you shouldn't need to be licensed to put free hentai on Fakku
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beeEAZY Raep Horse
jamescameron298 wrote...

Took a while to see these notifications, been a while since I've been back on Fakku. What I was saying is that sure, hentai artists who use this as their main source of income, I'll pay for their content. No problems there. But maybe people who do this stuff without a license, without income from it, their stuff has been removed, and that's where a lot of good stuff was. Some of my favorite work was from non-licensed creators, and I think that you shouldn't need to be licensed to put free hentai on Fakku


You realize that since FAKKU has become official they need to remove other unlicensed content because they can get sued for it by the companies that have rights to it; kind of like what WANI was going to do if FAKKU didn't comply to their terms so instead FAKKU took the initiative route and discussed other solutions.

Like what Coconutt said about doing the right thing for morals and ethics. Just because you want to please the masses by doing something that will leave you having a having a very bad day (FAKKU getting sued and some I'm sure of it) is not worth it. I'm glad FAKKU took the nonconforming choice to do the right thing that will benefit all of us not now, but in the future of hentai to come and to potentially release older and future (anything if possible from 2007 to now and any other past unlicensed hentai) works from the clutches of censorship.

BTW. Nothing is free. That hentai you're watching/reading and beating off to? Someone else bought that and ripped it or scanned it to provide to subgroups that will then be subbed/translated for our viewing pleasure (freeloaders mostly).