americans?

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the huge media influence in america is caused by the liberalism and freedom americans is proud of,right?

nobody can stop the media,because there's no law and organization that controls the press flow.

one one side,free-flowing press is(and should be)a good government control.
the government couldn't do anything stupid because the press would publish their actions to the general public.

but the general public in america nowadays doesn't seem to trust the press.
maybe that's because the press is not reliable anymore.

then again,their unreliability is caused by the govermental influence.
the press' status as an individual entity meant serve as a public's watchdog is no longer exist,because the rich guys who own the media is playing along with the government(to get tax reduction,easier access to insider,or anything that could help their business easier,which in turm would make them richer).

so it's an intertwining,endless cycle of conspiracies and personal reasons.
and the general public,in this case,normal americans as the victim of that cycle.

maybe americans should have a semi-liberal press-controlling law and an independent,society owned press control organizations,like in indonesia.
the press can do anything,but if they went overboard,the government will do something about it.and in case the government try to mess up,the public press control organizations step up.this system is still not working smoothly in indonesia,but we're trying to get better as time flies by.

then again,there's no chance of that applied in american society,as it is against the liberal press system and freedom america is based on.

back to the fucked up system,huh?

*sorry if i went over the line.i know i'm a foreigner,and shouldn't be preaching about other's(american in this case) society.i'm just a naive,peace-loving idiot.however,i do wish for the happines of everybody in the world.* :D
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ZiggyOtaku wrote...
I hope not, I'm democrat. <- voting for obama.


Im republican Go McCain!
Like Seriously do we need a black President?
Not being racist even tho i am one lol
but i dont believe the world is ready for a black president, well
at least not our generation
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Waar FAKKU Moderator
what would be the difference between a black and a white president?
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Waar wrote...
what would be the difference between a black and a white president?


i believe the nation would be totally different if obama became president.
plus i wouldnt b surprised if he got assasinated. like seriously it would b bad if he got elected or not. due to riots and marches cuz he wasnt elected and if he was he'd either screw up or get shot
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PrzAce wrote...
Waar wrote...
what would be the difference between a black and a white president?


i believe the nation would be totally different if obama became president.
plus i wouldnt b surprised if he got assasinated. like seriously it would b bad if he got elected or not. due to riots and marches cuz he wasnt elected and if he was he'd either screw up or get shot


i think that obama will become president and i cant wait..mcain is to old and slow for it..im going to say it..i like bush better then mcain
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biglw17 wrote...
PrzAce wrote...
Waar wrote...
what would be the difference between a black and a white president?


i believe the nation would be totally different if obama became president.
plus i wouldnt b surprised if he got assasinated. like seriously it would b bad if he got elected or not. due to riots and marches cuz he wasnt elected and if he was he'd either screw up or get shot


i think that obama will become president and i cant wait..mcain is to old and slow for it..im going to say it..i like bush better then mcain


Oh no.. Bush is a disgrace to the Presidency like seriously.
he didnt do anything but get us in a war.
now we cant go in trains or planes without feeling some sort of discomfort.
Im juss sayin McCain would b better to keep Peace in the Nation
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With the way Obama is handling his campaign right now, I highly doubt it. He has changed sides way too often. First they shouldn't drill because of the environment. Oh, wait people might not like that idea because the soaring gas prices I better change my mind... If he became president, I doubt anything would get done.

I'm not biased on which color gets elected, I just want a good president in there that will bring positive change to America.

If any black person was to be president first it should be Chapell. XD

JK!
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PersonDude wrote...
With the way Obama is handling his campaign right now, I highly doubt it. He has changed sides way too often. First they shouldn't drill because of the environment. Oh, wait people might not like that idea because the soaring gas prices I better change my mind... If he became president, I doubt anything would get done.

I'm not biased on which color gets elected, I just want a good president in there that will bring positive change to America.

If any black person was to be president first it should be Chapell. XD

JK!


i agree with you on every point he did do alot of that and is always talking bout change but i want is change..not to talk about it..and plus i to rather have a god president then just choose cuz hes black..if i thought mcain was better id choose him
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PersonDude wrote...
With the way Obama is handling his campaign right now, I highly doubt it. He has changed sides way too often. First they shouldn't drill because of the environment. Oh, wait people might not like that idea because the soaring gas prices I better change my mind... If he became president, I doubt anything would get done.

I'm not biased on which color gets elected, I just want a good president in there that will bring positive change to America.

If any black person was to be president first it should be Chapell. XD

JK!


lol Yea go PersonDude!
hahaha But your right on one thing, he wouldnt get anything done. lol

its not about color, but most ppl in this world that are still racist would think that
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biglw17 wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
With the way Obama is handling his campaign right now, I highly doubt it. He has changed sides way too often. First they shouldn't drill because of the environment. Oh, wait people might not like that idea because the soaring gas prices I better change my mind... If he became president, I doubt anything would get done.

I'm not biased on which color gets elected, I just want a good president in there that will bring positive change to America.

If any black person was to be president first it should be Chapell. XD

JK!


i agree with you on every point he did do alot of that and is always talking bout change but i want is change..not to talk about it..and plus i to rather have a god president then just choose cuz hes black..if i thought mcain was better id choose him


Some People Dont Know How To Spell In This World.. =[ poor soul
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PrzAce wrote...
biglw17 wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
With the way Obama is handling his campaign right now, I highly doubt it. He has changed sides way too often. First they shouldn't drill because of the environment. Oh, wait people might not like that idea because the soaring gas prices I better change my mind... If he became president, I doubt anything would get done.

I'm not biased on which color gets elected, I just want a good president in there that will bring positive change to America.

If any black person was to be president first it should be Chapell. XD

JK!


i agree with you on every point he did do alot of that and is always talking bout change but i want is change..not to talk about it..and plus i to rather have a god president then just choose cuz hes black..if i thought mcain was better id choose him


Some People Dont Know How To Spell In This World.. =[ poor soul

leave me alone i messed up i was typing to fast and dident want to edit..
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biglw17 wrote...
PrzAce wrote...
biglw17 wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
With the way Obama is handling his campaign right now, I highly doubt it. He has changed sides way too often. First they shouldn't drill because of the environment. Oh, wait people might not like that idea because the soaring gas prices I better change my mind... If he became president, I doubt anything would get done.

I'm not biased on which color gets elected, I just want a good president in there that will bring positive change to America.

If any black person was to be president first it should be Chapell. XD

JK!


i agree with you on every point he did do alot of that and is always talking bout change but i want is change..not to talk about it..and plus i to rather have a god president then just choose cuz hes black..if i thought mcain was better id choose him


Some People Dont Know How To Spell In This World.. =[ poor soul

leave me alone i messed up i was typing to fast and dident want to edit..


i type fast and edit pretty quickly. keep up. or you'll juss be a prey in this world amongst us predators :twisted:
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Waar FAKKU Moderator
let's be honest; you may not like what I say but it's probably how things will go down.

Obama will become the next president of the United States, he will he win mostly because Bush was such a bad president that a good portion of undecided voters will simply want to keep the republicans out of the white house. Obama will have a free pass when it concerns Iraq because he will simply use the previous administration for anything related to the middle east. He wont be a great president but he'll be loads better than the president you have now. He'll server 4 years, and depending on if a good republican comes along and if he's good enough to make the undecided voters forget about the Bush white house days; he may serve 8. You're in for a democratic president, senate and house of representatives for the next couple of years folks; better get used to it.
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Actually no one really knows. The polls show they are pretty close and Mccaine has been catching up after people have seen Obama change sides so often. I really don't care since I don't want either to be pres. even though I'm Republican, but really, no one knows anymore. You may be wrong you may be right Waar.
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I see your point Waar you Got Me Their
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i have to go thanks for the debate ttyl
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Waar FAKKU Moderator
well, the major problem with what you're saying is that normally these elections come up pretty close, but you're not really considering what the major deciding factor is on these elections; last time i checked the voter turnout was less than 50% and a large portion of those who didn't show up were black Americans, who probably will vote this time around; let's be honest; this elections will probably be the most interesting and active one from the past 10 years.

I dont particularly care who is chosen, as it affects me less that it affects the majority of you but I would like to tell my grand children that I was around to see the first black/female/hispanic/robot president selected.
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Waar wrote...
well, the major problem with what you're saying is that normally these elections come up pretty close, but you're not really considering what the major deciding factor is on these elections; last time i checked the voter turnout was less than 50% and a large portion of those who didn't show up were black Americans, who probably will vote this time around; let's be honest; this elections will probably be the most interesting and active one from the past 10 years.

I dont particularly care who is chosen, as it affects me less that it affects the majority of you but I would like to tell my grand children that I was around to see the first black/female/hispanic/robot president selected.


Lol robot. Should have added Ralph Nater to the list... Yeah, it is going to be interesting to see how this turns out... But it could affect you... what if the president decides to get drunk off his ass and declares war on Canada and some how the congress decides it's logical and it goes through. O.o
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Waar FAKKU Moderator
i've debated many times with many people (Americans included) about the odds of America invading Canada, it simply wont happen.
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Waar wrote...
i've debated many times with many people (Americans included) about the odds of America invading Canada, it simply wont happen.


ur right..starts thinking about the episode of south park about the Canadians and youtube ppl