[Anime] Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! (Air date Sept 19th)

Chuunibyou is not a sketch show, neither is it a senseless fantasy allegory. It's a shounen romcom. Saying plot development is not its "thing" is just covering up poor writing. Wooser is just for "lolz", so is litchi. You are entitled to like the plot or even not care about it, but saying it isn't meant to have one is just short-sighted.

We didn't say anything like that.
Yep.
K-on. Lucky star. Nichijou. These, like chuunibyou, aren't plot heavy either. If, for you, laid-back anime = poor writing, then help yourself.
This one, I have no idea.
I didn't say it's meant to be plot-less. I just said it's not as plot heavy as, lets say, steins;gate, madoka, or bakemonogatari.

I don't like arguing over these stuff, but you're getting annoying.

You were the one to comment on what I wrote. If you don't like arguing just don't do it it's simple. I can understand you though, you lack the most basic of skills for it that is being able to interpret text.

When I said Chuuni isn't a sketch or allegory it wasn't meant to be an accusation that you did so, but an example of genres that require no plot or in which plot development is unnecessary. Also just because a work is in its beginning doesn't excuse it from criticism. Yes it has time to hit its stride and get better, but it won't erase the fact that to me the first 4 episodes are poorly written. If your only argument against my opinion is "srsly" I would advise you not to reply at all, it would save you a lot of time.

If you are not aware Wooser and Litchi are, respectively, Wooser no Sono Higurashi and Litchi DE Hikari Club. They are both new animes from this season that are nonsensical, sketch based that require no plot.

Also there is no such thing as plot heavy. Every piece of story has a plot. If you like one better than the other it doesn't mean one is heavy or light, just that it caters to your taste the best. Also just because a lot happens in a story it doesn't make the plot either good or "heavier". You can have an extremely interesting plot where nothing happens as well as one in which so much happens it renders itself unintelligible.

In the end, as I said before, you have the right to disagree with me, but if you want to discuss why in your opinion I'm wrong then at least use some relevant arguments.

I didn't read any of that.
Also I edited my post after you quoted it.

I actually liked the way the OP was before the changes...

In addition, after this episode, I like Nibutani even more.

Maybe for you first 4 episode is poor written. But it's enjoyable to watch it. Like I said, for the lulz. At least, for me.



I disagree. Of course there's a heavy plot and light plot. It differs in how easy it is to understand the plot.

Wtf is wrong with you people, Nibutani is best girl.

I think I said enough times and also implied it several others that it's all my opinion. Saying "maybe for you..." is really unnecessary. You obviously don't mind the weak plot. Me in the other hand am bothered immensely by it.

Plot complexity as I said in my previous post does not make it good. You can add as many twists and turns as you want if it isn't well done it shows. Just because you can't understand something first hand doesn't make it good, actually most times makes it bad because it means you did a poor job presenting what you wanted to your spectator. This, unlike the fact that you like the plot or not, is not a matter of opinion. There is no such thing as plot heavy or not. Anyone who works with creative writing, at least the ones who have studied it and not just jumped in on it, can tell you that. It's not a matter of quality either. Saying a story has a heavier plot than another is like saying a person is more alive than the other. Quality and/or taste has no weight on it. The problem here is probably semantics, you mean more complex or better, in your opinion at least.

Plot complexity of course can make a show good, if a satisfying explanation, which is part of a plot, is given as well. What makes a plot bad is not whether it is heavy or not, which I agree with you. But tghat is not what I point in previous post. A heavy or light plot is different than a good or bad plot. A good heavy plot is one that gives many elements of problem on the show, manage to connect them all, and gives a good explanation and makes the whole plot cohessive. One that I believe an example is the movie 12 Angry Men, Confession, Memento. Or, in anime case, Death Note, or maybe Gundam with their lots of political problems.

On the other hand, a bad heavy plot is simply a plot with lots of problem with a forced explanation or no explanation at all, or a plot where all the problem has no source and suddenly simply there, which simply makes it a boring plot.

For light plots, it is when the plot is simple to understand, with light problems. Anime like Nichijou and K-on is included in light plots. It's a light plot because the story is simple to understand because it's familiar with us, everyday life and highschool slice of life. Yes, there is a plot which is easy to understand and which is hard to understand. Yes, like u said, every piece of works has plot, but of course there is a heavy one and light one. Stuffs with heavy political base is certainly not for wide community to enjoy, which needs the storytelling to be well done. On the other hand, a light plot which doesn't require the watchers to think much can be simply boring, and it needs something to spice itself out, like comedy element, or sometimes moe factor.

So, there is a heavy and light plot, and a good and bad plot. I simply cannot agree with you when you said there is no such thing as plot heavy.

And I apologize in advance if any of my comment seems aggressive or offending, I mean none of that.

As I said, semantics. You mean complexity not weight.

Also be mindful of double negatives. In your fourth paragraph you contradicted everything you said before.

There's no need for an apology. We are discussing a subject from opposite sides, there is no way to avoid being aggressive. I take no offense in you disagreeing with me and defending your own point of view. It's only natural. I also welcome the debate, that's why you join a forum.

The last thing I have to say is that a plot can be complex without addressing "serious" subjects or even having any kind of development. Also even if the plot is not complex it has to be well done and explain itself well. There is such a thing as quality in nonsensical chaos. So, although I don't agree with your examples, the main point that quality and complexity are not fully hand-to-hand is where we meet.

Cannot disagree *heavy facepalm*.
I'm editing it!!

Oh look, more arguments.

Also pillow-chan is best girl.

Why is there a fucking debate going on? Get out.

Episode 4

Lite episode 5

I'm interested. In what way?

Like lusobr said, I think that heavy plot means complicated or morally heavy story. 12 Angry Men is one of the best black and white movie I ever watch, it only revolves in 1 room, yet, the problem is really complicated. Me and my friends practically debating over it while watching. Memento can be confusing since the plot play backwards, hence 'heavy'.

Confession is different though. They brought out of context, morally questionable problem, with achronological storytelling so I considered them heavy as well.

I have watched them all so I know how good they are. But what does this have to do with Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai?

...Emm, no, actually. *blush*
Well, if u read previous post u'll find out how we got here~

I want to stick my penis inside of every girl in this show. (episode 4)

I've watched Electric Soldier Porygon. Chuu2's OP ain't got shit on that. Doesn't induce enough seizures.

Still, if it got changed a good amount of people must've complained though.