[Anime] Nisekoi

animation was beautiful, very odd seeing shaft's take on this (stereotypical?) love comedy. my only problem is that nisekoi is more character driven and the backgrounds seem to be more focused in the anime

different note, damn it hanazawa kana is making onodera more appealing and might overtake my favoritism for tsugumi. well, at least opening by livetune claris combo will further motivate me to continue watching

Yup, Nisekoi got SHAFT'd. Some people like the way SHAFT does things, I despise it, the color palette doesn't fit my taste and what were they thinking when they decided on the voice actors. The only one that made sense is Hanazawa for Onodera, not to mention that every time I listen to Raku I only think of Izaya and all of the BL stuff that came along with DRRR!!.

Ep 1

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Ep. 2

Episode 2!

fucking Shaft fanboys..

?????????

Some people here don't like SHAFT. I don't know why. Their adaptation of Nisekoi has been excellent so far.
Also, the only SHAFT related work I've seen is a few episodes of Bakemonogatari years ago.

Eh, I wouldn't call myself a fanboy, not yet anyways, but if this ends up being as good as the only two other animes I've seen by them(Madoka Magica, and Monogatari series), I might become one.

First and foremost, I'm not a SHAFT hater,

Comments around the internet (Paraphrased)
"Nisekoi will flop if it wasn't by SHAFT"
"Without SHAFT Nisekoi will be just another bland Romcom"
"I usually hate romcom, but I'm going to watch this just for SHAFT"
"SHAFT is perfect for Nisekoi"
"Any other Animation Studio will just make it into another Copy of Toradora"
"Any animation style besides SHAFT is boring"

Every one of these fanboys is talking like Nisekoi needs a crutch. Talking like Nisekoi cannot work as a standalone story. When Nisekoi itself has rivaled To-Love-Ru Manga sales when they were still in Shonen Jump. Everyone of these failed to explain why SHAFT is a perfect fit for Nisekoi.

To me who is still reading the manga, most of it feels like an insult.

And let's look at Episode 2, Shaft just down toned their Style and non of these fanboys notice it and like it anyway. All the backgrounds are "normal", with normal perspective, none of the usual style we see in Bakemonogatari.

In the end most never praised nor cared about the story, but in the end will always praise SHAFTs, doesn't matter what they did in that episode.

I didn't even know being an animation studio fanboy was a thing lol. I mean, not to the point where people would say such things.

Well I thought you were talking about everyone who likes Nisekoi here. I don't particularly mind what studio is doing it, I even didn't know who was doing it until I watched the first episode.

Pretty much what Hentanize said really, for the rest of the argument.

Oh they do when they're confronted with "questions". Especially those who like SHAFT. They're the loudest when mentioning that "Different is Good".

Where do you find these people anyway?

Mostly from MAL, the cesspit of all anime discussion. you are bound to meet the worst of the worst people there.

Ya, I tend to do very little posting on MAL. Too many elitists, and people trying to act like elitists, its the same reason I avoid posting on music forums.

I never read the manga for Nisekoi, I'm tempted to, but I feel like knowing what happens ahead of time kinda ruins the magic of watching it in anime version.

Onodera is best girl.

So, as usual, best girl will lose.

But seriously
EP2

Did Shaft do all of the Monogatari's? I figured the Bake first season was done by a different studio than the one who did Nise, and so on. With Bake having a strong emphasis on back ground artistic cutaways and exposition while Nise, and so forth, substituted those with an increased emphasis on fan-service.

Bake first season felt, mildly, fresh while watching with the style they took. (I couldn't enjoy any other season as much as the first.) It really reminded me greatly of Soul Taker, another anime I really enjoyed. But I was able to enjoy it most for it's difference. After a lot of the "same", difference can make things a lot better than it normally would be (halfass answer to why people fixate on differences), people get sick of eating the same thing every day.

As for Nisekoi, to me, it doesn't have anywhere near a "strong story", but it's hardly bad, above decent I suppose. It's a lot better than To Love-Ru "story wise" (been reading both mangas off and on before either was announced to be an anime). This isn't a surprising pick as an anime. It's all about how well Shaft sells off the characters, Nisekoi is at a disadvantage compared to To Love-Ru in terms of the roster, so they will have to make sure the characters make an impact, if they want to compete with To Love-Ru sales that is. Story wise, they did the most significant part of the story well enough to leave an impact, the introduction of the relationship scenario.

I do think Onodera can stand up to Yami in terms of likeability (popularity), Onodera expressing a lot more emotion and range than Yami. Rivaling the "tsudere" impact and personality of Asuka from Neon Genesis Evangelion.

On a side note, I don't think sales can be used to equate the quality of a story, I could trow my opinion into the realm of game sales for example (since I don't really keep up with anime sales), but meh.

-SHAFT did all the Monogatari series. If you felt that is different it's because Shaft has to downplay all of the art & animation direction for Nisekoi. Which caused some people to say "Shaft isn't suited for Nisekoi".

-I mentioned sales as a counter argument for people claiming that "Nisekoi would flop without SHAFT". Nisekoi as you can see has rivaled To-Love-Ru's earlier manga sales and TLR is still a cult hit. Following the same logic, Nisekoi couldn't fail If it wasn't done by Shaft because there are people that will like it because it's Nisekoi.

It's still one of the Romcoms still running in Shonen Jump who's known for cancelling series because it's low on the popularity ranks. Heck Nisekoi is the ONLY Romcom manga still running in WSJ, other Romcom who debuted near Nisekoi all got cancelled.

Chronologically Released RomComs in WSJ (2010-Present)
-Magico (End July 2012)
-Kagami no Kuni Harisugawa (End February 2012)
-Nisekoi Still Running (Debut November 2011)
-Pajama no Kanojo (End August 2012)
-Koisome Momiji (End November 2012)
-Koganeiro (End June 2012)
-Cross Manage (End July 2012)
-Hime Doll!! (End November 2013)

In short it's popularity alone won't make it fail. But!!! Yes, SHAFT can boost its popularity, but claiming "without SHAFT it will Flop", it just shows that these people are just Shaft fanboys who doesn't care about Nisekoi itself.