Naruto HATE

No but I find it annoying that they call themselves ninjas and talk all about stealth and shit but always just run in head first.
Oh and the face palms pretty cool.

Maybe because running in head first will provide better entertainment for the readers than the alternative?

Again, this is not how real life ninjas act, true, but this isn't a manga about real ninjas either.

naruto= good times in the past but it sucks now cause its repetitive and getting boring and same shit, and come on man naruto being a fox and knowing frog moves and this and bullshit that and fillers. its just too much for people. bleach is still good cause their introducing new exciting hot characters but naruto isn't new at all and when they show u a new person it's like you've known them for years.
even some ppl in naruto look exactly the same!
but i have to admit sometimes naruto gets me excited but then screws me over in the end because thats just how they do things.

Bleach also isn't just roses and rainbows. Actually, I got tired of it faster than naruto. Then again, it may be just me.

Wait...so you're saying Naruto is repetive while praising Bleach that's pretty much just fight after fight after fight with close to no plot? You serious?
Also, please enlighten everyone about which these "new exciting hot characters" are, cuz i can't remember Bleach having any new ones for ages.

During the time Naruto has introduced new characters, new villages, more of the world, and plot twists Bleach has done what? Had fight scene upon fight scene with no sign of moving the plot (whatever it is) forward.

You must be smokin something..

I pledged never to watch Naruto, mainly because of the massive fanboy culture, but also the fact that he looks stupid. Maybe I'd read the manga, but I'm not a big manga fan. Incidentally, I gave up on Bleach a little past the Soul Society rescue arc, as it has been dull punctuated with dire ever since. They also love opening new plotholes and then never exploring them - Ichigo's dad, anyone?

I'll leave now.

Ho ho ho I mean I'm a big fan of bleach but come on. Naruto is about as repetitive as it absolutely must be. Sure the Naruto fillers are the worst ever, but Kubo gave up on bleach a while ago. Now it’s just fight on why don’t we chat for like ten seconds…… now fight.

Also “new exciting hot characters” Ok I’ll give you hot but just look at this.
Yamamoto=Barragan
Unohana=Harribel
Kyoraku=Stark
Kempachi=Nnoitra
Mayuri=Szayel
Need I go on…

Oh yes so “new”

I often find the rabid fans are more annoying than those poeple who diss on the anime having never watched it. I've had a handful of people on MAL and other places get shitty with me because I've never seen Naruto. I tell them it just isn't my style, I don't enjoy watching those type of animes very often and they say I'm just 'jumping on the bandwagon' not watching Naruto because it is cool to hate on it.

I've gotta say they are starting to make me become one of those people. -_-

I'm gonna ignore this entire thing cause like KLoWn said you obviously must be on something.




Why did you just name Espada characters? How are they considered new when they have been mentioned and playing an active role for a long time? I don't know what your definition of new is but that definitely isn't mine. They've been mentioned and playing a role for so long some of them are dead. That isn't new. That arc has been going on for a long time.

All big series has those kinds of fans, you cannot judge a series after the behavior of the tards following.
If everyone went by that logic then no one would be reading stuff like, for example, One Piece, which has the most annoying elitist fanboys out there.

Pre-time skip, it was good. However, during the Kakuzu arc the quality noticeably droppedx, and has gone total crapola with the Pain arc. The only good thing to come out of that was Danzou becoming hokage. But i believe Kishi has lost whatever talent he had pre-timeskip, and i don't see naruto ever reaching greatness again

Enlighten me more of how the "quality" of Naruto dropped.

I don't think post time skip is doing bad at all, but I do have to agree the end of Pain arc has sucked a little. In my opinion, Danzo being the new hokage is actually a bullshit plot engine. But you gotta take a little bad with the good, and Naruto is going to climb back up for sure.

Kakuu was dumbed down horribly. Seriously he has lived for hundreds of years(i for some reason remember him living for about 1200 years, but i could be wrong on that) and he was defeated by a trick Naruto made...as a fucking genin.

The series doing a total 360 on revenge. Pre-timeskip we were taught that revenge is BAD BAD BAD. But then Shikaramu does it and its totally cool.

Naruto being the most naive, annoying, one dimensional main character i have ever seen. Seriously, i was hoping he would have grown up, but nooo. I mean, he was STILL obsessed with saving Sasuke. And him yelling about peace while not giving any sort of plan to actually accomplish that when asked by pain didn't help either.

Oh, on the subject of Nagato, worst villian redemption ever. Seriously, a man who has been killing jiinchuurikis and attack a village to further his goal is swayed by words from a book and naruto repeating the word "peace' and how he is going to find it without telling how?

The pain arc amounting to nothing. Seriously, nagato resurrecting everybody basically made the arc pointless. Oh, and Yamato can fix the village no problem,meaning Nagato's invasion DID NOTHING(with the exception of Danzou becoming hokage).

I could list more, but i can't think of them now. But basically, Post-timeskip the naruto manga seemed torn between actually becoming more mature and still staying a shonen. And thus you get a confused manga that tries to shove in cliche shonen answers to complex questions(the prime example of this being naruto spouting off how he is going to bring about peace without saying how).

Shounen, so a lot of continuous BS. Read manga and I guess the series is ok since it doesn't BS as much as Bleach now but still quite a bit of crap in there. They have the obvious set ups in the stories and keeping only certain characters alive and have certain ones die. Then they try to pull off a mt. shyamalan every once in a while. Not as much of the "Dragonball" effect but still has BS survival and winning scenarios. It's predictable on what comes next for 90% of the time. I mean if you like Shounen manga then it's as awesome as you want it to be, but for most who have a taste for more variety do not want just the common protagonist overcoming all odds and becoming the very best.

trufully, i believe i hate the series cuz everyone else ADORES it. i mean when i first read the manga that my friend gave to me, im not gonna lie, i was hooked but then i took a break from reading and the world went on and i wouldn't hear the end of naruto.

but now i can hide my true feelings by nitpicking and particular plot developments liek naruto not getting the opportunity to be PROPERLY trained and becoming the ninja he should have been because of numbnuts liek Kakashi and Juraiya, i mean come on, Kakashi said F#@#% the team and trained Sasuke and after Sasuke stuck his hand through Naruto's chest, naruto basically goofs off for 3 years but in liek 6 months or something, he gains GOD LIEK POWERS and rivals S class ninja (i guess he doesn't literally goof off but he could have accomplished so much more over those 3 years and perhaps his whole life time if ppl seriously put effort into his training)

but yeah, bad plot counterouts my insercurities ^-^

I haven't seen the Kakuu thing, so I have nothin to say 'bout that.

Naruto trained for 2 1/2 years to SAVE Sasuke, since both of them have been best friends. Plus he's pretty much stuck on Sasuke since he made a promise with Sakura that he'll drag Sasuke's sorry ass back to Konoha. Do remember that his Way of a Ninja is to "never go back on his word"

And Naruto screaming about peace... This is the part before Naruto was overwhelmed by Kyuubi, right? The part where they 'talked'. Well, Nagato was right then. Naruto was stumped by the absolute truth that Nagato presented before him.

Need I remind again that the book is based on Nagato himself. Yahiko got killed, and Nagato picked up his ideals, mostly forgetting about the peace that Jiraiya's talkin about, since it is pretty much impossible to obtain. Then Naruto showed a crude and simple answer. "I'm gonna believe in his peace. So I won't kill you". This means that he hasn't found the "peace" Jiraiya is talkin about, but he is searching for it. How he's gonna find it is pretty much unknown, since nothing can provide a definite answer right now. Maybe in the future.

And YES! The end of the Pain Arc fuckin sucks. Reviving most of the dead was probably, like the others have said, to appeal to the fanboys that love the supposed-to-be-dead-characters. This is a wrong turn that Masashi made, although it kinda helps that Kakashi is alive.

And you do know that the original would always be better than the sequels. Or in this case, they kicked more ass when they were kids than they do now.

lol you contradict yourself. you're angry that pain brought ppl back to lief, but you're happy to see Kakashi alive....... i understand your confusion but im also missing your point =(

Point being that even tho it was bullshit Pain Nagato knowing some uber haxxed move that brings everyone back to life, it's fucking awesome that Kakashi is back. That's all there is too it. If he had stayed dead I would have complained but he died it makes sense for him to stay dead. Sense he came back I am happy that he is back but it's bullshit and shouldn't have happened. My joy that Kakashi is back > My annoyance of the super move that brought him back.

*sigh* you fans for your dog anbu, he's one of the man reasons the MAIN CHARACTER of the anime was stupid and didn't know anything but i guess that can be forgiven as long as he has the power of Thor in his hand and the Sharin Gun <_<