[Locked] FAKKU State of the Union 2016

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An idea I want to pitch here, regarding the use of Paypal.

As I understand, the issue with Paypal right now is that Paypal refuses to provide a service for subscriptions. If I am not mistaken here, then why not change your approach here?
The idea would be to introduce a Fakku Website currency (call it FFP or Fakku Fap Points) that can be purchased via Paypal and is tied to the account it was purchased with. The next step would be, like you already said is planned anyway:


Jacob wrote...


Later this year we will most likely add options to buy in monthly packages (3 months, 6 months, 12 months, etc) and we will be looking into adding a free trial.


From there, make it possible to purchase subscription via FFP.

Square Enix uses the same system for Final Fantasy 14 with their artificial currency, Crysta. You can buy Crysta via different payment options (including Paypal!) and use that currency to buy stuff from the Cash Shop of Final Fantasy 14 .... INCLUDING SUBSCRIPTION TIME!!!

...

You may all kneel before me in gratitude now.

Uhhh, you don't buy that in the cash shop, but instead in your Account Management. Still, the subscription there is purchasable with Crysta, which is the point, dammit!
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add a molpoint option for us to be able to subscribe. its hard if you dont have cc
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OtakuSenpai The Overseer
GoodByeAndThanksForAllThe wrote...

So how can you make a proper business model? First, you'd have to make your website an even easier experience than others. You already got some of that, there is a reason Fakku got so big. #2 needs to go down to like 2.99$/month or something of the like. At your current price point, you won't live to see the end of the year. Your ads views will plummet (I am assuming subscribers don't get ads), your number of subs will maybe stick in the 100, if that, and you won't be able to license anything.


I fap too much to get upset, but honestly, the things you're talking about aren't even valid. Netflix has changed many times over the years. For a time, they had nearly no content and were barely recognized and Blockbuster was offered Netflix for 30 million. They were just that terrible. Business models have to change before they evolve and Netflix did plenty wrong before they did good.
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I understand why you did this and I can't hold it against you. The only thing I don't understand is did you have to remove all the free content? Was it not possible to lock it off and then allow the users to pay for it. The only reason I ask is that I, like probably many others, have spent years building our favorites list and now it's just gone. I only use this site on my phone really so I'm not sure if the notification was coming up or I just missed it but it kind of sucks that I can never recover that list now.
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GoodByeAndThanksForAllThe wrote...
Spoiler:
Well, that was a poor decision overall. You could probably support the hybrid model with adds, but you just removed 90% of your library and then you ask for money?

You're basically asking people to pay to get less... doesn't make much sense. The worst part of it all is that your entire library will be ripped and reposted anyways!

Your reasoning is also blatantly wrong. I am not sure exactly how old you are, but I've had to deal with the Japanese industry in general, and the whole "The West are all pirates oh noes~" really doesn't hold water. The manga industry worked for a long time and still does, the problem is the availability is nigh impossible, and it comes into multi-tiered issues. First of all, no store wants to old dirty mangas. Second of all, the few that would and do, mostly sex shops, do not attract the customer that would purchase such books. This isn't just an issue with porn mangas, but with all porn magazines overall. Playboy had to redo their entire business model a few years back or fear going bankrupt. Ironically, Playboy currently has some of the best writers/actual journalists working for them!. Many other porn mags had to shut down or turn to the internet.

So you have an overall very toxic market, that is extremely unlikely to work, with a high cost of production for a small profit margin, OF COURSE THEY WOULD NEVER TAKE THAT CHANCE. Mangas are in the same boat as books, book stores are closing everywhere because of e-books and the ability to order your books online. Except availability only is hard to come by for mangas, especially older ones (DBZ full collections are going for 600$+), so people turned to the internet. Humans do as humans do, we created an entire community of people wanting the latest manga. You also have the issue of people not willing to wait a year to get the official translation, so they'll just get scanlated.

Movies are in the same boat, theater releases still worked, but renting movies was being more and more of a hassle, availability online became greater and the ease of access made sales of movies plummet. Blockbusters and what not all failed. What kind of saved the movie-release industry? Netflix/Hulu and the like. What saved(and revitalized) the PC gaming market? Steam. Did it all happen at once? No. Netflix was originally stupidly cheap, 9.99$ per year. Steam has ridiculous sales to offer product and it tooks years before Steam put a serious dent in the piracy numbers. Before Netflix there were tons of alternate TV networks for free. It always comes down to ease of use, we're a lazy creature.

So how to turn the entire hentai manga industry into a profitable business in the west? You don't start by cutting your entire library, asking for huge payments (12.95$/month? You're asking for more than Netflix VIP!).

You're basically doing everything wrong, the exact opposite of what would drive people to you. What made Steam/Spotify/Netflix/Kindle work was in order of importance:

1. Ease of access
2. Cheap prices
3. Actual content (accessing a large library)

#1 will drive people away from piracy, if its easier to use your website than to pirate, people will flock to your service. That's why Steam/Spotify/Netflix worked. But that only works if the prices are cheap! People will want an easier time accessing their content, but they won't pay a large sum for it! #3 is you pay for actual content. If netflix had like 12 movies and 20 Tv shows, nobody would sub to that.

You did the exact opposite, your website is as easy to navigate as a pirated website, you ask for ridiculous prices (12.95$, holy shit, I have to mention it again), and you just culled 90% of your library!

So how can you make a proper business model? First, you'd have to make your website an even easier experience than others. You already got some of that, there is a reason Fakku got so big. #2 needs to go down to like 2.99$/month or something of the like. At your current price point, you won't live to see the end of the year. Your ads views will plummet (I am assuming subscribers don't get ads), your number of subs will maybe stick in the 100, if that, and you won't be able to license anything.


I don't understand why people think Jacob can freely choose pricing as he pleases. Let's say you make video games. You don't distribute them. You tell Valve and G2A that you want them to sell your games. Everything's great until a couple months later when your February check from G2A drops to a measly $100. But they sold units like crazy last month. What is going on? You ask G2A what happened and they tell you "Oh yeah we cut your price by 90%". They're selling like mad but your profits have become basically nothing. You ask them why and they just say "Oh, well some people thought your price was too high. So we lowered it!" ??????????????? How is this realistic?

I also don't understand why you think Jacob can just pick and choose how he's going to deal with hosting unlicensed content. There's one little thing that can happen to derail that entire plan. Jacob talks to a particular artist or someone from Wanimagazine. All they have to say is this "Nope, I don't want to work with you because you're still a piracy hub. In fact, if you continue we will have to consider legal action." That's it. Entire plan ruined.
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urg .. delete almost 90% of the content and ask us to pay for that ? nice move .

bye fakku .
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Hanayome Ultimate Laziness
Bear Normal wrote...
I understand why you did this and I can't hold it against you. The only thing I don't understand is did you have to remove all the free content? Was it not possible to lock it off and then allow the users to pay for it. The only reason I ask is that I, like probably many others, have spent years building our favorites list and now it's just gone. I only use this site on my phone really so I'm not sure if the notification was coming up or I just missed it but it kind of sucks that I can never recover that list now.

It's not possible for Fakku to convince companies to work with them if they're actively stealing from them and their competitors.
With this move, Fakku is telling other companies that they are serious about bringing hentai manga to the west and can hopefully secure more licenses.
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Bear Normal wrote...
I understand why you did this and I can't hold it against you. The only thing I don't understand is did you have to remove all the free content? Was it not possible to lock it off and then allow the users to pay for it. The only reason I ask is that I, like probably many others, have spent years building our favorites list and now it's just gone. I only use this site on my phone really so I'm not sure if the notification was coming up or I just missed it but it kind of sucks that I can never recover that list now.


You can't lock unlicensed content behind the subscription because then you are essentially charging money for content you don't own and don't have a license to, which can and will have legal ramifications.
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heibaii wrote...
basically "fuck you users, fuck your favourites and more, xoxo bitches?" I'm out of this site, even with a subscription this was a fucking stupid move and you didn't even protect simple info as favourites. ばかですね。


Avoided the announcement and didnt use the favorite export tool for months, and blame fakku? Thats rich. Maybe you should read more news than just fap material.

GoodByeAndThanksForAllThe wrote...
Well, that was a poor decision overall. You could probably support the hybrid model with adds, but you just removed 90% of your library and then you ask for money?

You're basically asking people to pay to get less... doesn't make much sense. The worst part of it all is that your entire library will be ripped and reposted anyways!

Your reasoning is also blatantly wrong. I am not sure exactly how old you are, but I've had to deal with the Japanese industry in general, and the whole "The West are all pirates oh noes~" really doesn't hold water. The manga industry worked for a long time and still does, the problem is the availability is nigh impossible, and it comes into multi-tiered issues. First of all, no store wants to old dirty mangas. Second of all, the few that would and do, mostly sex shops, do not attract the customer that would purchase such books. This isn't just an issue with porn mangas, but with all porn magazines overall. Playboy had to redo their entire business model a few years back or fear going bankrupt. Ironically, Playboy currently has some of the best writers/actual journalists working for them!. Many other porn mags had to shut down or turn to the internet.

So you have an overall very toxic market, that is extremely unlikely to work, with a high cost of production for a small profit margin, OF COURSE THEY WOULD NEVER TAKE THAT CHANCE. Mangas are in the same boat as books, book stores are closing everywhere because of e-books and the ability to order your books online. Except availability only is hard to come by for mangas, especially older ones (DBZ full collections are going for 600$+), so people turned to the internet. Humans do as humans do, we created an entire community of people wanting the latest manga. You also have the issue of people not willing to wait a year to get the official translation, so they'll just get scanlated.

Movies are in the same boat, theater releases still worked, but renting movies was being more and more of a hassle, availability online became greater and the ease of access made sales of movies plummet. Blockbusters and what not all failed. What kind of saved the movie-release industry? Netflix/Hulu and the like. What saved(and revitalized) the PC gaming market? Steam. Did it all happen at once? No. Netflix was originally stupidly cheap, 9.99$ per year. Steam has ridiculous sales to offer product and it tooks years before Steam put a serious dent in the piracy numbers. Before Netflix there were tons of alternate TV networks for free. It always comes down to ease of use, we're a lazy creature.

So how to turn the entire hentai manga industry into a profitable business in the west? You don't start by cutting your entire library, asking for huge payments (12.95$/month? You're asking for more than Netflix VIP!).

You're basically doing everything wrong, the exact opposite of what would drive people to you. What made Steam/Spotify/Netflix/Kindle work was in order of importance:

1. Ease of access
2. Cheap prices
3. Actual content (accessing a large library)

#1 will drive people away from piracy, if its easier to use your website than to pirate, people will flock to your service. That's why Steam/Spotify/Netflix worked. But that only works if the prices are cheap! People will want an easier time accessing their content, but they won't pay a large sum for it! #3 is you pay for actual content. If netflix had like 12 movies and 20 Tv shows, nobody would sub to that.

You did the exact opposite, your website is as easy to navigate as a pirated website, you ask for ridiculous prices (12.95$, holy shit, I have to mention it again), and you just culled 90% of your library!

So how can you make a proper business model? First, you'd have to make your website an even easier experience than others. You already got some of that, there is a reason Fakku got so big. #2 needs to go down to like 2.99$/month or something of the like. At your current price point, you won't live to see the end of the year. Your ads views will plummet (I am assuming subscribers don't get ads), your number of subs will maybe stick in the 100, if that, and you won't be able to license anything.


Lol. The magazine subscription in japan is worth 5-7$ a month and you want a 3$ sub price. Only looking out for your dick, huh? Not the artists nor the translators nor the site. Nice logic.

And really, porn is cheap? Where in the world could you get cheap hentai original subscription in this price range? Have some respect in the weight of jow long artists work for this, maybe then people can start respecting you. Oh and maybe become a real part in society to begin with and not leeching of others
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hgatedc wrote...

And really, porn is cheap? Where in the world could you get cheap hentai original subscription in this price range? Have some respect in the weight of jow long artists work for this, maybe then people can start respecting you. Oh and maybe become a real part in society to begin with and not leeching of others


No need to insult others. This is a discussion and a place to say goodbye, keep it classy, please. Also, you completely nullify your credibility with insults. At least he wrote a coherent post. Guess whose opinion I am more inclined to put my money on?^^
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I agree with the decision. People work hard to make these, so they deserve to get paid. My only question is that will we see any of the old works return?
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for me I would love to subscribe but right now I don't think 13$/month is worth it.
if I am correct, FAKKU publish two 20ish-pages-manga per day.
for the QUALITY, you guys are the best! no censorship, HD and all that.
but the QUANTITY,you guys are a little low. 40 pages a day for me is not worth 13$/month.
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Why we need to pay for to subscribe???
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Fakku4You wrote...
hgatedc wrote...

And really, porn is cheap? Where in the world could you get cheap hentai original subscription in this price range? Have some respect in the weight of jow long artists work for this, maybe then people can start respecting you. Oh and maybe become a real part in society to begin with and not leeching of others


No need to insult others. This is a discussion and a place to say goodbye, keep it classy, please. Also, you completely nullify your credibility with insults. At least he wrote a coherent post. Guess whose opinion I am more inclined to put my money on?^^


Really though a lot of people are upset here and it's not just the free users. A large portion of the community is basically acting like a mob of children and that makes my blood boil too. You're right that we need to keep this civil but it's not like I don't understand his position.

@mizukagehh-814615
Same reason that you need to get paid at work. Unless you're a volunteer, but last I checked most published hentai artists aren't volunteers.
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OtakuSenpai The Overseer
I think the major point is that most people don't care nor want to understand that adult material is expensive. In order to license content, it costs money. I assume that with the price of the subscription, Jacob accounted for the loss of members and had a bit of inflated cost there in order to license new content fast. I run my own business, completely different market, but I can understand from a business point of view that you need money to make money. In order to license content, you need money, too. The content in turn makes you more money, because as the library legally grows, so does the potential user base. Not only simple things like that, but it allows them to invest more into their own site, so that they can do things like maybe censored hentai manga previews for free or amount of pages free. When you have money, it's much easier to make money. The only way to drive a successful business is to start one. You can't please everyone and not everyone has hefty lumps of cash or investors that will throw money at you to make things easier. Right now, Fakku is the shell of a real company, rather than what it used to be, which was more of a teenager's side project during high school than a business.
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ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
Fakku4You wrote...
hgatedc wrote...

And really, porn is cheap? Where in the world could you get cheap hentai original subscription in this price range? Have some respect in the weight of jow long artists work for this, maybe then people can start respecting you. Oh and maybe become a real part in society to begin with and not leeching of others


No need to insult others. This is a discussion and a place to say goodbye, keep it classy, please. Also, you completely nullify your credibility with insults. At least he wrote a coherent post. Guess whose opinion I am more inclined to put my money on?^^


Really though a lot of people are upset here and it's not just the free users. A large portion of the community is basically acting like a mob of children and that makes my blood boil too. You're right that we need to keep this civil but it's not like I don't understand his position.


People on the forum and where ever need to face the music. I was and am free user, so I understand your blood lust all to well. But the content that has been taken from us so abruptly is not coming back. Those who don't like it and aren't willing to pay the subscription need to pucker up and and move on.
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oh....god...for real ? 🙁
how can I start...
Well it was like whenever I enter to read a manga it says "you have to subscribe so you can read this" and I was like "whaaaat is going on?????" And then TODAY I saw this and .....I don't know how to explain it I'm so MAD. It is not your fault it is not a mistake to "support them" .
But I have somethings to tell you:

I won't support them,also fuck them.

I was entering fakku because it was easy to get H-manga and THERE WAS A LOT OF COOL H-MANGA.

By the way, if there is tons of users in this site and they saw that, Some might search for another website like me, and some might delete their accounts , and some might subscribe

Peace.
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100% approve, Been here since the start will sub next month.
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Bear Normal wrote...
I understand why you did this and I can't hold it against you. The only thing I don't understand is did you have to remove all the free content? Was it not possible to lock it off and then allow the users to pay for it. The only reason I ask is that I, like probably many others, have spent years building our favorites list and now it's just gone. I only use this site on my phone really so I'm not sure if the notification was coming up or I just missed it but it kind of sucks that I can never recover that list now.


1) you were given lots of time to recover your favorites if tou were reading announcements
2) how can they try to profit of something they didnt work at, and have no permission from the author/artist?

Fakku4You wrote...
hgatedc wrote...

And really, porn is cheap? Where in the world could you get cheap hentai original subscription in this price range? Have some respect in the weight of jow long artists work for this, maybe then people can start respecting you. Oh and maybe become a real part in society to begin with and not leeching of others


No need to insult others. This is a discussion and a place to say goodbye, keep it classy, please. Also, you completely nullify your credibility.


... Goodbyes of people who never really created an account or actually never was a part of the community?

I know i can get rude, but thats basically a friut of truth. Im not inclined to sugar coat truths
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well at first time i'm surprised, but i can not do anything i just a student and i did not have a credit card to pay the content. and anyway in my country is quite expensive price of 7-8 dollars.success Fakku, and Sayonara ^ _ ^