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rokushou
15 years ago
too lazy to write something long, but in short, Magnataur. well, centaur have big Hp, but lack of damage while Magna have overpower. And, Magnataur's splash is devastating, unit behind the primary target will get teh same damage, because splash's damage isn't reduced by armor.
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Minakami Ryuu
15 years ago
@roku:can give me daetail abut his Empower skill~

@jenny:what is your opinion??~
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rokushou
15 years ago
@gob : +60% atk points. teh cooldown is really fast and it's a real help for damager agi hero.

well, magna is not really a 1v1 hero, but as the same str hero, magna have ranged skill with low manacost, really useful to harass and creeping at early level. conquer early game = more level and gold = more advanced item and stronger skill.
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Argentine
15 years ago
Old - Jenkins wrote...
Argentine wrote...
Didnt i already put a very detailed combo list on puck a many posts ago.


th bolded ones is your answer ...

Argentine wrote...

Spoiler:
The standard combo in a 5v5(I stated 5v5 lest cause thats the least amount of gold you are gonna get and puck shines in 5v5 more)

Ulti,Orb,Jaunt,Waning,auto attack.You got yourself a dead opponent here.

Explanation.Ulti will hold your opponents there and at first thought will not break the link.Your orb will serve as a damaging blink dagger.By the time you Jaunt,you would already have cast waning on appearing,dealing more damage and silencing them and by now most heroes health would be about half or so.Most will run and they will break the chain adding more damage and a stun.Normally you finish off with just auto attack or another orb.

Puck's game shines early to mid as his role changes to a tanker for late game


You missed the probability when enemies didn't want to break the link and they all attack you .. with or without skill ...
your trick doesn't fit well against team who have a good chemistry ...

err .. puck as tanker ?


There needs to some common sense established before attacking - -;;.Like is the target some weak early game hero,go on ahead.If its some tanker or nuker think twice or grab an ally.

If you are talking about probability,most of the item builds here will never happen

Have you tried to kill a tanker puck?its like he has a free linken sphere - -;;
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Old - Jenkins
15 years ago
I need time for analyzing ..
Centaur : rarely played using him
Magnataur : never use newer him

and my conclusion is ,
Centaur ... have a big resistance against physical attack along with big Health pool ..
have "return" that can help for creeping or harassing indirectly ...
to some hero that depend by physical damage much like Magnataur .. use BM ..
New Magnataur skill : Skewer .. has a long cooldown ..
Reverse Polarity : long long cooldown ..

and Centaur longest skill cooldown is 15 ...
You dead ..

@ Utsuho : wut ? Item build ?

Spoiler:
My 1000th posts ..
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Argentine
15 years ago
Old - Jenkins wrote...
I need time for analyzing ..
Centaur : rarely played using him
Magnataur : never use newer him

and my conclusion is ,
Centaur ... have a big resistance against physical attack along with big Health pool ..
have "return" that can help for creeping or harassing indirectly ...
to some hero that depend by physical damage much like Magnataur .. use BM ..
New Magnataur skill : Skewer .. has a long cooldown ..
Reverse Polarity : long long cooldown ..

and Centaur longest skill cooldown is 15 ...
You dead ..

@ Utsuho : wut ? Item build ?


Item builds posted here that has 4 late game items - -;;

In any case i beg to differ.No Centaur player in their right mind use return to creep or harass directly.No player in their right minds let centaur go up to them in the first place.

Centaur cant even lane in the first place due to most good magnataur players farm using shockwave.With its small mana cost and low cd,most get arcane asap.

Since now centaur is based on his str,Magna can just use empower to to again farm or deter centaur.

Magna gameplay hasnt changed even though he gain skewer
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rokushou
15 years ago
gratz Jenny

i haven't played v6.67 yet. what's magna's new skill actually?
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Old - Jenkins
15 years ago
SHIII ..
I forgot about shockwave ...

So as my conclusion changed ...
Short play : Magnataur wins
Long play : Centaur wins ...

Fair enough for me ....

@ Roku : Thanks ...

Dota wrote...
Spoiler:
Skewer:
=======
Magnataur rushes forward, goring enemies on his massive tusks.
Hits up to two units max. Charges up to 800 range max. Units hit will be stuck with you until you reach your targeted point, at which point they will be slowed by 40% for 2 seconds.

Damage: 50/100/150/200
Manacost: 80
Cooldown: 45
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Minakami Ryuu
15 years ago
Old - Jenkins wrote...
SHIII ..
I forgot about shockwave ...

So as my conclusion changed ...
Short play : Magnataur wins
Long play : Centaur wins ...

Fair enough for me ....

@ Roku : Thanks ...

Dota wrote...
Spoiler:
Skewer:
=======
Magnataur rushes forward, goring enemies on his massive tusks.
Hits up to two units max. Charges up to 800 range max. Units hit will be stuck with you until you reach your targeted point, at which point they will be slowed by 40% for 2 seconds.

Damage: 50/100/150/200
Manacost: 80
Cooldown: 45


well,not only in short game,when at long time magnus still can win,even centa build BM,magna will make satanic so his healt didn't reduced~
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Old - Jenkins
15 years ago
And how about Centaur using Satanic too ?

and i ask about the most possible winner ..
the real conclusion is on battle ...
Every prediction can be nullified ...

so what's new topic .. please make one ..
UTSUHO .. !!!
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Argentine
15 years ago
magna doesnt need to even go satanic.He can just go Armlet and HOD.
Seriously Armlet is an underated item - -;;
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Minakami Ryuu
15 years ago
then new topics,Invoker,fail or not????~

and what strategy,+item+skill you use~
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Old - Jenkins
15 years ago
Invoker :
By newbie's eyes : FAIL
By Pro's eyes : Depend

I choose fail ..
The old Invoker is stronger than the present ..
knowing the possibility that Old Invoker can be IMBA anytime ...

Invoker is hard to use , especially when it comes to utilize all his skills ,
nuff said ~

FAIL = no strategy, no item build ...
Fail hero is Fail ...
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Argentine
15 years ago
invoker never gets picked around here

reason being he lags the hell out of most host that has wood coms
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rokushou
15 years ago
Not really used to play with invoker. i mostly activated meteor and deafening blast. item depends on situation. mostly buys orchid and dagon.
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Minakami Ryuu
15 years ago
Well i play random and get him(b-net) and decide not to repick,i think at first that i will be killed/defeat easily,but the fact that i killed many heroes and can harased slardar at start game(mid both alone),well his damage is not too small,cuz of 3rd skill~
and the meteor is very hurt~

but at the last our team lost.cuz enemies left 3 people,and in our side left 1 person,and they request to switch player~
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Fallan Kamen Rider Cheeki
15 years ago
*inserts topic*

Anyone can suggest an agi hero whom I can use ethreal blade+dagon?
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Minakami Ryuu
15 years ago
Fallan wrote...
*inserts topic*

Anyone can suggest an agi hero whom I can use ethreal blade+dagon?


i think Anubarak or medusa~
i can only think both of them for the moment~
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Old - Jenkins
15 years ago
Dunno about using dagon ,
but for Ethereal .. my advice comes to Nevermore, Morphling , and Magina ....
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Minakami Ryuu
15 years ago
okay,new topic~

Broodmother~
Item:
Skill build:
Strategy:
if you faced her,strategy:
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