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Auctioning for Old Jenkins
Zafhner
Old Jenkins Cost: 2000
4732
2732
Total RP: 711
RP for auction : 711
Zafhner
Old Jenkins Cost: 2000
4732
2732
Total RP: 711
RP for auction : 711
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Zandorf
Old Jenkins Cost: 2000
minto Cost: 1000
Great Emperor Kuro Cost: 2000
7838
2838
Total RP: 1332
Used on minto - 100
Used on Ol' Jen - 712
Zandorf
Old Jenkins Cost: 2000
minto Cost: 1000
Great Emperor Kuro Cost: 2000
7838
2838
Total RP: 1332
Used on minto - 100
Used on Ol' Jen - 712
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Auctioning for Old Jenkins
Zafhner
Old Jenkins Cost: 2000
4732
2732
Total RP: 713
RP for auction : 713
Wait, RP should be frozen...
Zafhner
Old Jenkins Cost: 2000
4732
2732
Total RP: 713
RP for auction : 713
Wait, RP should be frozen...
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lastmousestanding wrote...
SamRavster wrote...
[font=verdana][color=green]Just to clarify, I never had anything to do with the rules. All I did was change the wording of the rules to make them clearer and more concise. However, I wouldn't have done it if I didn't feel that Aura should take over the game. The game needed to change, the system needed to change and the person in charge needed to change. Expert just doesn't listen to anyone else, and is very inactive. Aura actually listens and keeps threads up to date constantly. She was the perfect turn-to. So, I don't see what the problem is. I kind of see the situation as if Greece (which is in a crap state of affairs) got a new leader who was a benevolent dictator which pushed reforms through. I dont have a problem with the improvements, but more so, inherently with the dictatorship thing.
Aura just started the game, with her own modified rules, without any discussion or allowance for feedback and input from the people who would actually play the game. Now that the game has started, the rules are hard to change and kind of set in stone now. Though some of them may be good, others (like the 3 buys every 24 hours) I disagree with. Whether that is just me, that could be an option, but I wont accept the fact that there isnt any problem whatsoever with the way the takeover (however welcome) was handled. I understand that to lead a game thread, some sort of control is needed to keep order, but ignoring everyone else in the formulating of the actual rules itself, that is my issue.
gah, I am making a bigger fuss of what I actually mean, but your inability to acknowledge the issues that I have with the game leads me to have to explain it with slightly stronger words than what I truly feel.
[font=verdana][color=green]Okay, for starters, this situation isn't reconcilable with Greece at all. With Greece, there are people imposing rules and sanctions on one set of people (the Greeks) for the benefit of others (everyone else in Europe). However, in this situation, there are reforms to the old rules imposed by people affected by the rules as well. These rules are for everyone's benefit.
Secondly, throughout all versions of the game, there have always been people calling for many changes to occur. In fact, many of the changes imposed by Aura have been suggested in the past. It is not like Aura decided to make up rules on the spot without consideration of past games and past points raised. Again, if I felt this was the case, I would not have helped as I did. One such rule was the 1/2TP and 1/5RP one, which adequately provides disincentive to people joining in auctions to raise the price unnecessarily - that has been an issue constantly brought up.
Thirdly, my experience with Fakku is that, if you don't do it yourself, no one will do it at all. If we had done as you suggested, and talked it through, we would have never seen the end of it. So many people wouldn't have liked this, a number of people wouldn't have liked that: this just results in many ideas and rules being scraped before they are even implemented at all, or even truly considered. Overall, nothing would have happened, and the thread would have just died again after people get bored from regurgitating the same arguments again and again. This spreads to Film Nights - if one person doesn't say things like "Okay, we should have a Film Night at 10pm GMT 5th February, and I propose we watch these films (with links of course)" then the Film Nights would never have gone ahead at all in the first place. It also spreads to the ex-FVAS - when I joined, I got a CR organised and done within days of joining, as I said "Right, we need to have a CR at this time on this date and we should do these manga". And as you will find out, it will also spread to Game Nights. My point is, is that you need to have some person just to take initiative and actually do something positive towards an aim, rather than aim to have 100% of people 100% agree - it's impossible.
So, overall, I understand your main issue is that "Aura didn't acknowledge other people's thoughts and opinions", but in all actuality, these changes have been suggested over the game's history, so it's not like no-one agrees with the rules at all. With regards to the 3 users in 24 hours rule, whilst it is certainly much more frivolous than the 3 month rule, I think it encourages more people to buy more users, so more users have more chance to be purchased. If you're not bought, you do feel left out - and the 3 users in 3 months rule is very slim. Too slim. This brings the game more to the community.
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Zafhner wrote...
Wait, RP should be frozen...It is frozen for the current auction for Old - Jenkins, as stated by the 5th new rule.
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GreenZero
Get Jinxed
So let's see if I can do this right.
GreenZero
Buying Koko7 for 2000TP
Buying Toxic Influence for 1000TP
TP: 8,186
TP left: 5,186
RP: 2,727
Tell me if I did something wrong.
and is it just me or does it feel like this game has become more complex for each new game. but whatever, i'm just gonna roll with it.
GreenZero
Buying Koko7 for 2000TP
Buying Toxic Influence for 1000TP
TP: 8,186
TP left: 5,186
RP: 2,727
Tell me if I did something wrong.
and is it just me or does it feel like this game has become more complex for each new game. but whatever, i'm just gonna roll with it.
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SamRavster wrote...
lastmousestanding wrote...
SamRavster wrote...
[font=verdana][color=green]Just to clarify, I never had anything to do with the rules. All I did was change the wording of the rules to make them clearer and more concise. However, I wouldn't have done it if I didn't feel that Aura should take over the game. The game needed to change, the system needed to change and the person in charge needed to change. Expert just doesn't listen to anyone else, and is very inactive. Aura actually listens and keeps threads up to date constantly. She was the perfect turn-to. So, I don't see what the problem is. I kind of see the situation as if Greece (which is in a crap state of affairs) got a new leader who was a benevolent dictator which pushed reforms through. I dont have a problem with the improvements, but more so, inherently with the dictatorship thing.
Aura just started the game, with her own modified rules, without any discussion or allowance for feedback and input from the people who would actually play the game. Now that the game has started, the rules are hard to change and kind of set in stone now. Though some of them may be good, others (like the 3 buys every 24 hours) I disagree with. Whether that is just me, that could be an option, but I wont accept the fact that there isnt any problem whatsoever with the way the takeover (however welcome) was handled. I understand that to lead a game thread, some sort of control is needed to keep order, but ignoring everyone else in the formulating of the actual rules itself, that is my issue.
gah, I am making a bigger fuss of what I actually mean, but your inability to acknowledge the issues that I have with the game leads me to have to explain it with slightly stronger words than what I truly feel.
[font=verdana][color=green]Okay, for starters, this situation isn't reconcilable with Greece at all. With Greece, there are people imposing rules and sanctions on one set of people (the Greeks) for the benefit of others (everyone else in Europe). However, in this situation, there are reforms to the old rules imposed by people affected by the rules as well. These rules are for everyone's benefit.
Secondly, throughout all versions of the game, there have always been people calling for many changes to occur. In fact, many of the changes imposed by Aura have been suggested in the past. It is not like Aura decided to make up rules on the spot without consideration of past games and past points raised. Again, if I felt this was the case, I would not have helped as I did. One such rule was the 1/2TP and 1/5RP one, which adequately provides disincentive to people joining in auctions to raise the price unnecessarily - that has been an issue constantly brought up.
Thirdly, my experience with Fakku is that, if you don't do it yourself, no one will do it at all. If we had done as you suggested, and talked it through, we would have never seen the end of it. So many people wouldn't have liked this, a number of people wouldn't have liked that: this just results in many ideas and rules being scraped before they are even implemented at all, or even truly considered. Overall, nothing would have happened, and the thread would have just died again after people get bored from regurgitating the same arguments again and again. This spreads to Film Nights - if one person doesn't say things like "Okay, we should have a Film Night at 10pm GMT 5th February, and I propose we watch these films (with links of course)" then the Film Nights would never have gone ahead at all in the first place. It also spreads to the ex-FVAS - when I joined, I got a CR organised and done within days of joining, as I said "Right, we need to have a CR at this time on this date and we should do these manga". And as you will find out, it will also spread to Game Nights. My point is, is that you need to have some person just to take initiative and actually do something positive towards an aim, rather than aim to have 100% of people 100% agree - it's impossible.
So, overall, I understand your main issue is that "Aura didn't acknowledge other people's thoughts and opinions", but in all actuality, these changes have been suggested over the game's history, so it's not like no-one agrees with the rules at all. With regards to the 3 users in 24 hours rule, whilst it is certainly much more frivolous than the 3 month rule, I think it encourages more people to buy more users, so more users have more chance to be purchased. If you're not bought, you do feel left out - and the 3 users in 3 months rule is very slim. Too slim. This brings the game more to the community.
Sam, the problem isnt "Aura didn't acknowledge other people's thoughts and opinions", its that she didnt even ask for them in the beginning. There was no room at all for debate or suggestions, it was all her decisions (albeit based on past experiences) and no one elses. And I understand its hard to get 100% of people to 100% agree, but when you ask 0% of people, where are you then? But its already too late as the game has already been started. I am merely saying I disagree with the way it was done and Im gonna leave it at that.
And in regards to the 3 a day rule, I view this game very much as akin to the waifu game, and believe that who you buy should take some thought, and being able to buy up everyone in like a week kind of ruins that for me. Since you can have so many users, the ones you have lose that sentimental value. I would make some allusion to inflation, but I would probably make some error. meh
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i read the rules but i hope my bid counts.
luvyduv
mibuchiha cost: 2000
6164
4164
auctioning for my dearest mibuchiha <3
Current RP: 805
RP for auction: 1
luvyduv
mibuchiha cost: 2000
6164
4164
auctioning for my dearest mibuchiha <3
Current RP: 805
RP for auction: 1
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luvyduv wrote...
i read the rules but i hope my bid counts.luvyduv
mibuchiha cost: 2000
6164
4164
auctioning for my dearest mibuchiha <3
Current RP: 805
RP for auction: 1
Spoiler:
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Aura-Desu
Beautiful and Twisted~
luvyduv wrote...
i read the rules but i hope my bid counts.luvyduv
mibuchiha cost: 2000
6164
4164
auctioning for my dearest mibuchiha <3
Current RP: 805
RP for auction: 1
Spoiler:
well your bid is valid.... until his purchase becomes final. Then yours will become null and you will lose by default =/ sorry
@The people who auction for My Jenky SERIOUSLY? WTF? I'VE HAD HIM EVERY GAME WHY YOU GUYS DO THIS TO ME?
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Aura-Desu wrote...
@The people who auction for My Jenky SERIOUSLY? WTF? I'VE HAD HIM EVERY GAME WHY YOU GUYS DO THIS TO ME?Because I want to own Ol' Jen. Why else? lol. ^^
