Creation Vs. Evolution
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Tatsel wrote...
how can you make it as if its impossible for them to evolved into something that can make buildings and make internet porn sites lol, Okay if you were right, why didn't we evolved to become a superior primates that hunt animals, can't really talk but have language like the wolves and probably don't have thick skin but enough to block an arrow from going through the knee lol You are limiting the possibilities already and making your statement biased. You are saying only us can develop these kind of advancement which I don't really agree, but I respect your point of view. I think given any lengthy of time one species can retain our ability to make things like buildings, schools and stuff. This is how I see that evolution does have its truth but failed to explained some the mysteries. Evolution is true to an extent, its not the ultimate theory. You have to believe there is an improvement or else humanity will stuck in this condition forever. So in order to compliment Evolution Theory, I do believe that Creation Theory may have the answers that Evolution has been missing.
Seems like you're using the God of the Gaps.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
cruz737 wrote...
You can, but you don't have to. There are better ways of dealing with a problem, this is clearly not the way to go at it. Although there are cases where things clearly should not be in a certain place, this isn't one of them. Which was my original point.
You're missing my point, sure we don't have to, but we want to. I don't see a benefit in dealing with this in the "better ways" you mentioned. The op has clearly stated his intent to remain a shit stain on IB and as you said, it's not violating any rules. We just want to express our disgust at his blatant lack of forum decorum(lol). While your original point may have been correct it doesn't make anyone else wrong in this case(which was my point to you).
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
Waar wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
You can, but you don't have to. There are better ways of dealing with a problem, this is clearly not the way to go at it. Although there are cases where things clearly should not be in a certain place, this isn't one of them. Which was my original point.
You're missing my point, sure we don't have to, but we want to. I don't see a benefit in dealing with this in the "better ways" you mentioned. The op has clearly stated his intent to remain a shit stain on IB and as you said, it's not violating any rules. We just want to express our disgust at his blatant lack of forum decorum(lol). While your original point may have been correct it doesn't make anyone else wrong in this case(which was my point to you).
There's a big difference between missing the point and disagreeing.
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Tatsel wrote...
how can you make it as if its impossible for them to evolved into something that can make buildings and make internet porn sites lol, Okay if you were right, why didn't we evolved to become a superior primates that hunt animals, can't really talk but have language like the wolves and probably don't have thick skin but enough to block an arrow from going through the knee lol You are limiting the possibilities already and making your statement biased. You are saying only us can develop these kind of advancement which I don't really agree, but I respect your point of view. I think given any lengthy of time one species can retain our ability to make things like buildings, schools and stuff. This is how I see that evolution does have its truth but failed to explained some the mysteries. Evolution is true to an extent, its not the ultimate theory. You have to believe there is an improvement or else humanity will stuck in this condition forever. So in order to compliment Evolution Theory, I do believe that Creation Theory may have the answers that Evolution has been missing. We are a supirior race of primates, we do hunt animals and have our own language(s) I nor any other human being or other animal can tell evolution to go in the direction we desire. Evolution works simply on what is needed and a final result of that need wouldn't be seen for generations. Here's an example: edible vegetation grows on trees, but the small creature can't reach it. Evolution acts and the creature gets a longer neck. The creature being the giraffe.
I didn't say we were the only ones who could get to our stage, we simply got there first. Apes are coming along slowly but surely. They are able to use simple tools and some show amazing intellegence.
Human evolution being halted isn't natures fault. It's ours. We shape the land to suite our needs now instead of how it's meant to be. If we don't need for something that technoligy can't give us, evelution doesn't really work. Not the case for all people. These people that live on water can see well underwater when all we see is a blur. Basic evolution.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
cruz737 wrote...
Waar wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
You can, but you don't have to. There are better ways of dealing with a problem, this is clearly not the way to go at it. Although there are cases where things clearly should not be in a certain place, this isn't one of them. Which was my original point.
You're missing my point, sure we don't have to, but we want to. I don't see a benefit in dealing with this in the "better ways" you mentioned. The op has clearly stated his intent to remain a shit stain on IB and as you said, it's not violating any rules. We just want to express our disgust at his blatant lack of forum decorum(lol). While your original point may have been correct it doesn't make anyone else wrong in this case(which was my point to you).
There's a big difference between missing the point and disagreeing.
You can't disagree with it, my point is that people want to complain, if you don't agree with that then you're wrong.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
Waar wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
Waar wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
You can, but you don't have to. There are better ways of dealing with a problem, this is clearly not the way to go at it. Although there are cases where things clearly should not be in a certain place, this isn't one of them. Which was my original point.
You're missing my point, sure we don't have to, but we want to. I don't see a benefit in dealing with this in the "better ways" you mentioned. The op has clearly stated his intent to remain a shit stain on IB and as you said, it's not violating any rules. We just want to express our disgust at his blatant lack of forum decorum(lol). While your original point may have been correct it doesn't make anyone else wrong in this case(which was my point to you).
There's a big difference between missing the point and disagreeing.
You can't disagree with it, my point is that people want to complain, if you don't agree with that then you're wrong.
Except I'm not wrong. I said there's better ways with dealing with certain problems.
I never denied you or the first person I responded to anything. I only offered my views, which consist of better alternatives to dealing with a "problem".
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
cruz737 wrote...
Except I'm not wrong. I said there's better ways with dealing with certain problems. I never denied you or the first person I responded to anything. I only offered my views, which consist of better alternatives to dealing with a "problem".
Then we aren't even arguing about the same thing. My point stands, people want to deal with it this way, regardless of the other methods which you speak of.
Pray tell, what other ways do you see to deal with a user who refuses to follow forum decorum, is not violating rules but is overall unpleasant.
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Street Saint wrote...
Tatsel wrote...
how can you make it as if its impossible for them to evolved into something that can make buildings and make internet porn sites lol, Okay if you were right, why didn't we evolved to become a superior primates that hunt animals, can't really talk but have language like the wolves and probably don't have thick skin but enough to block an arrow from going through the knee lol You are limiting the possibilities already and making your statement biased. You are saying only us can develop these kind of advancement which I don't really agree, but I respect your point of view. I think given any lengthy of time one species can retain our ability to make things like buildings, schools and stuff. This is how I see that evolution does have its truth but failed to explained some the mysteries. Evolution is true to an extent, its not the ultimate theory. You have to believe there is an improvement or else humanity will stuck in this condition forever. So in order to compliment Evolution Theory, I do believe that Creation Theory may have the answers that Evolution has been missing. We are a supirior race of primates, we do hunt animals and have our own language(s) I nor any other human being or other animal can tell evolution to go in the direction we desire. Evolution works simply on what is needed and a final result of that need wouldn't be seen for generations. Here's an example: edible vegetation grows on trees, but the small creature can't reach it. Evolution acts and the creature gets a longer neck. The creature being the giraffe.
I didn't say we were the only ones who could get to our stage, we simply got there first. Apes are coming along slowly but surely. They are able to use simple tools and some show amazing intellegence.
Human evolution being halted isn't natures fault. It's ours. We shape the land to suite our needs now instead of how it's meant to be. If we don't need for something that technoligy can't give us, evelution doesn't really work. Not the case for all people. These people that live on water can see well underwater when all we see is a blur. Basic evolution.
still, 200,000 years vs Gazillions of years. You have ample of times to be able to evolved at least to a stage like ancient humanoid. We simply evolved in less than 1million years to the point of like now is simply extraordinary. Yes obviously you can't control evolution, but still its weird how we could outrun these creatures in terms of evolutionary progress. Yes I know we hunt, but so do other creatures on earth that eats other animals, but I don't see tigers using spears to hunt. If evolution probably gave the tigers fangs, why didn't we developed the same thing like claws and fangs since we hunt too? Instead we developed our brain much more than any part of our bodies. The reptiles also hunt but somehow their brain didn't really evolved much, but their sizes sort of shrink to like the crocs and monitor lizards. In the span of recent dino years which was the Jurassic, 65mill years ago, until now, that is the best that they can achieve? I still believe that the reptiles should be far more advance than us, I think somebody has restraint their evolutionary process to give way for the emergence of modern human. Don't get me wrong, I believe in Evolution, but the process was being messed up by divine intervention.
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Tatsel wrote...
still, 200,000 years vs Gazillions of years. You have ample of times to be able to evolved at least to a stage like ancient humanoid. We simply evolved in less than 1million years to the point of like now is simply extraordinary. Yes obviously you can't control evolution, but still its weird how we could outrun these creatures in terms of evolutionary progress. Yes I know we hunt, but so do other creatures on earth that eats other animals, but I don't see tigers using spears to hunt. If evolution probably gave the tigers fangs, why didn't we developed the same thing like claws and fangs since we hunt too? Instead we developed our brain much more than any part of our bodies. The reptiles also hunt but somehow their brain didn't really evolved much, but their sizes sort of shrink to like the crocs and monitor lizards. In the span of recent dino years which was the Jurassic, 65mill years ago, until now, that is the best that they can achieve? I still believe that the reptiles should be far more advance than us, I think somebody has restraint their evolutionary process to give way for the emergence of modern human. Don't get me wrong, I believe in Evolution, but the process was being messed up by divine intervention. The reason we are at the stage we are now is because we are very intelligent. Our brains developed rapidly because that is our strong suite. By the time we harnessed fire, evolution wasn't very available to us (no need).
Ok, each species can only advance down the evolutionary path in a certain way. Families of species (like the cat family) will show very similar evolutionary traits. Like we did with the Neanderthall (don't know how to spell that). So we aren't able to run as fast as a big cat, transform during the full moon, spit venom, or fly. Like the Neanderthall, we gain hieght, streanth and other unimaginative shit like that.
Again, evolution is based on need. Evolution wise, reptiles are way further along than us. I mean when was the last time you changed your skin colour to match the scene behind you or covered your eyes in a transparant layer of skin to see in water? Reptiles have all they need. Their evolution has probably reached a standstill because they don't need anything else. Unlike us where our evolution stopped (sort of stopped, we are getting smarter, taller, etc...) because we, as I said, change the world to suite us.
Think about this, put one of us in the wild with no way of going back to civalisation, (s)he is no longer superior. Our minds keep us alive. That and technoligy. The person in the wild will surely die unless they are able to adapt.