[Locked] FAKKU Café v5.3
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Kiba Eve Fumihiro wrote...
I thought you were going to argue with me~! That clone thing really worked up my nerves! Dx Dont really want a panic attack I've run out of pills -shake shake- (T-T)"I guess look alikes are my trigger. At least for me (~.~)"""
Why would I argue? It's Looky not me that brings it up and I don't want to see you stressed.
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Data Zero
Valkyrie Forces CO
Kiba Eve Fumihiro wrote...
Data Zero wrote...
*waves and continues to snicker*High five! >:DD

*high fives*
Had to deal with some issues.
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Sup? I was gonna have a day off, but then I got called in. Bollocks. It's not like my job is hard at all though, so I don't feel like I am missing out on much. Just making dat overtime
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Data Zero
Valkyrie Forces CO
Der Kizer wrote...
Sup? I was gonna have a day off, but then I got called in. Bollocks. It's not like my job is hard at all though, so I don't feel like I am missing out on much. Just making dat overtimeOvertime pay must be nice as well
*gives a cup of coffee*
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Data Zero
Valkyrie Forces CO
Kiba Eve Fumihiro wrote...
Grr...rrr? -doesnt know how to feel about der kizer-
(e.o)
*stares from behind wall*
*pats*
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Well hello to you too Eve. Making me feel like a scary spectre haunting the forums.
*sips his coffee daintily*
Yes, the extra dosh is much appreciated, especially since today is the day I finally pay my bills and speeding ticket I got.
*sips his coffee daintily*
Yes, the extra dosh is much appreciated, especially since today is the day I finally pay my bills and speeding ticket I got.
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Rrr? (e.o)
-is ok with der kizer-
Scary ghost! Butthead! >:X
Oh. Your male. Well that solves that! >:O
-is ok with der kizer-
Scary ghost! Butthead! >:X
Oh. Your male. Well that solves that! >:O
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Data Zero
Valkyrie Forces CO
Der Kizer wrote...
What, you don't like men now? Are we to all be stereotyped and held to rigid gender norms? XPHonest opinion.
Yep. Male and female. Anything else and i have to question ones sanity.
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Der Kizer wrote...
What, you don't like men now? Are we to all be stereotyped and held to rigid gender norms? XPNo~! If you were female I would have to fight you in fierce combat! No ones taking my men~! *finger snap* xD
Its nothing. Just meeting new people is difficult. But I remember you sorta.
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Kiba Eve Fumihiro wrote...
Der Kizer wrote...
What, you don't like men now? Are we to all be stereotyped and held to rigid gender norms? XPNo~! If you were female I would have to fight you in fierce combat! No ones taking my men~! *finger snap* xD
Its nothing. Just meeting new people is difficult. But I remember you sorta.
Yeah, I dropped bu a few times in the past and never made myself seem particualrly compelling to talk to I guess.
Data Zero wrote...
Der Kizer wrote...
What, you don't like men now? Are we to all be stereotyped and held to rigid gender norms? XPHonest opinion.
Yep. Male and female. Anything else and i have to question ones sanity.
See, I have always found it funny that those opposed to that idea want gender to be considered as a social construct. To some extent I think that is fair, but if that's what we are working with then that means that it is pretty much binary since that's the way that Western society views gender. Any attempt to introduce new genders is just a fringe subculture trying to alter social norms.
In the same way I have always been somewhat loathe to agree with anyone that says "heteronormativity" needs to die. Sure it presupposes a lot and can lead to some bizzare thinking as I have learned talking to my less than sexually enlightened and quaintly racist grandfather, but at a very basic level assuming that heterosexuality is the norm is just a correct assumption. It -is- the statistical norm. I don't think it should necessarily be valued more greatly, but why try and rail against the Judeo- Christian value system that at least American culture is firmly based on?
I think trying to change a system and replace it with another is far too combatative an approach and doomed to failure and reprisal. Just deal with people on a personal level and realize that you will be subject to assumptions and don't get pissed. You'll find people willing to reapect ypur wishes, but the norms are not obligated to shift.
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Data Zero
Valkyrie Forces CO
Der Kizer wrote...
See, I have always found it funny that those opposed to that idea want gender to be considered as a social construct. To some extent I think that is fair, but if that's what we are working with then that means that it is pretty much binary since that's the way that Western society views gender. Any attempt to introduce new genders is just a fringe subculture trying to alter social norms.Or provide excuses.
*provides cookies and tea*
Der Kizer wrote...
In the same way I have always been somewhat loathe to agree with anyone that says "heteronormativity" needs to die. Sure it presupposes a lot and can lead to some bizzare thinking as I have learned talking to my less than sexually enlightened and quaintly racist grandfather, but at a very basic level assuming that heterosexuality is the norm is just a correct assumption. It -is- the statistical norm. I don't think it should necessarily be valued more greatly, but why try and rail against the Judeo- Christian value system that at least American culture is firmly based on? The hell is "heteronormativity"?
*quick google*
Ahh okay. In Estonia, this transgender (or whatever) hasn't gotten much hold. Glad for that.
About your grandpa, he lived in a different time. He has seen some wars/conflicts probably and considers most of the gender crap to be pointless waste of time.
The thing about all the gay stuff is following:
I'm okay with gay people, because I occasionally like to watch lesbian carpet munching on pornhub. If i find lesbians to be tolerable (or downright hot, depends on the video), it would be wee bit asinine hating gays.
WHAT do pisses me off is the gay pride parades. Gay marriage and crap is legal now. Have fun in the bedroom, but why the flipping crap one must parade around city about his/sexual orientation? Do they try to push it as a norm? Most of the people do not give a damn about it anyway, they just want people to shut up about it.
I am not religious person so I don't know much about religious values.
Der Kizer wrote...
I think trying to change a system and replace it with another is far too combatative an approach and doomed to failure and reprisal. Just deal with people on a personal level and realize that you will be subject to assumptions and don't get pissed. You'll find people willing to respect your wishes, but the norms are not obligated to shift.It's basic human psychology. If we do not have any information, we try to gather it. If we see some traits that belong to certain group, we will assume he belongs into that group. The current norms have worked for ages, because its simple and it is based on biology. Got tits and vag, woman. You own a shaft and ballsack, man. There are those unfortunate ones though. On that, those people need time to think.