FAKKU Writers' Lounge
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[z]NOFUTURE wrote...
Nothing good would come from having an RP section on an explicit website's forums.Absolutely nothing.
It's hard to make any positive justification for it...
We already have RPs in the writing section, if you even had even skim-read them you would know there's nothing particularly explicit about any of them, if anything they're a lot more wholesome and have more integrity than roleplays on forums dedicated to them. I'm pretty sure most members of Fakku's pre-existing Roleplay community frown upon things like cybering.
The justification is as follows: Roleplays do not belong in the writing section, as they are regularly bumped whereas stories and poetry may not be, and therefore warrant their own section where all the current RPs will be able to be viewed on the front page and the writing section can be left alone.
It also allows greater self-policing of the RPs themselves and further adds to their legitimacy and right to be on this site. It's essentially a win-win situation for everyone. RPers get their own section and most likely an increased level of discussion and intrigue for Fakku roleplays, and the Writing section finally gets the independence it deserves from the often bumped Roleplays.
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xninebreaker
FAKKU Writer
BagMan wrote...
[z]NOFUTURE wrote...
Nothing good would come from having an RP section on an explicit website's forums.Absolutely nothing.
It's hard to make any positive justification for it...
We already have RPs in the writing section, if you even had even skim-read them you would know there's nothing particularly explicit about any of them, if anything they're a lot more wholesome and have more integrity than roleplays on forums dedicated to them. I'm pretty sure most members of Fakku's pre-existing Roleplay community frown upon things like cybering.
The justification is as follows: Roleplays do not belong in the writing section, as they are regularly bumped whereas stories and poetry may not be, and therefore warrant their own section where all the current RPs will be able to be viewed on the front page and the writing section can be left alone.
It also allows greater self-policing of the RPs themselves and further adds to their legitimacy and right to be on this site. It's essentially a win-win situation for everyone. RPers get their own section and most likely an increased level of discussion and intrigue for Fakku roleplays, and the Writing section finally gets the independence it deserves from the often bumped Roleplays.
BagMan's right, just by skimming the RPs that are on the front page alone will show you the kind of content that you can generally expect. There is hardly anything explicit if any at all. It's very easy to associate roleplaying with delinquent behavior, but the writing community here has not made such RPs to my knowledge. Not to say that it won't happen (perhaps because of some miracle influx of RPers), but I think it would be silly to not open up a subforum in fear of this type of trolling or behavior. I mean, there are mods for that reason.
The only problem I can maybe see is that opening up a new subform may prompt other groups to ask for other kinds of subforums. That said, I'm not too familiar with the other forums to comment on whether or not they have valid reasons like the writing forums does.
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xninebreaker wrote...
The only problem I can maybe see is that opening up a new subform may prompt other groups to ask for other kinds of subforums. That said, I'm not too familiar with the other forums to comment on whether or not they have valid reasons like the writing forums does.It's essentially a not-problem. It's the kind of problem that could theoretically exist but probably wouldn't be one if put into practice. I can't think of any sub-forum that could be created that hasn't (barring the RP section of course) and I can think of one or two that see little to no use (Korean and Japanese Music sections), so it's obviously not a drain on resources for Jacob to create a sub-section (he recently created the developers sub-section). If there's a valid reason for a sub-section to be created it should be, like the roleplay section.
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Cinia Pacifica
Ojou-sama Writer
Xenon wrote...
Cinia Pacifica wrote...
Welp, Jacob -has- posted in other places ever since I made the suggestion for the RP section. It's clear that he's just ignoring it, too bad. >:Sorry, I thought the poll would be on the low side since it's in Feedback instead of somewhere else. Maybe he is ignoring it as usual, who knows?
Feedback gets the most attention from Jacob at the moment, I think. I don't believe I wanna do a suggestion thread in Random forum, anyway.
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The Logophile wrote...
Shikinokami wrote...
Once you started talking about intransitive and transitive verbs, my mind stopped working and I didn't understand a thing.What exactly confused you? I would like to help. And is there anything else that confused you?
Of grammar I only know Nouns, pronouns, and verbs. I never understood anything after those three. If you have a link for kids grammar, I'd take it. Not joking.
Decided to post this here rather than at your sticky because this is a chat rather than a contribution.
Also, linking this essay of George Orwell I read and liked years ago.
http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/887/
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Shikinokami wrote...
The Logophile wrote...
Shikinokami wrote...
Once you started talking about intransitive and transitive verbs, my mind stopped working and I didn't understand a thing.What exactly confused you? I would like to help. And is there anything else that confused you?
Of grammar I only know Nouns, pronouns, and verbs. I never understood anything after those three. If you have a link for kids grammar, I'd take it. Not joking.
Decided to post this here rather than at your sticky because this is a chat rather than a contribution.
Also, linking this essay of George Orwell I read and liked years ago.
http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/887/
Okay, but you said you became confused at intransitive and transitive verbs. So I'll reframe my question: when you read that part, what exactly confused you?
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The Logophile wrote...
Shikinokami wrote...
The Logophile wrote...
Shikinokami wrote...
Once you started talking about intransitive and transitive verbs, my mind stopped working and I didn't understand a thing.What exactly confused you? I would like to help. And is there anything else that confused you?
Of grammar I only know Nouns, pronouns, and verbs. I never understood anything after those three. If you have a link for kids grammar, I'd take it. Not joking.
Decided to post this here rather than at your sticky because this is a chat rather than a contribution.
Also, linking this essay of George Orwell I read and liked years ago.
http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/887/
Okay, but you said you became confused at intransitive and transitive verbs. So I'll reframe my question: when you read that part, what exactly confused you?
I think it was "object" rather than specifying. Was that "object"? A subject? Something else? Then there's progressive, dynamic, and stative, which I don't know what they're either.
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well the only thing i understand are few things
choosing the subject that you like, and that you're able to recite without stuttering or having a mouthful, something that can be easily spoken.
im not a theory person. those that i cannot apply easily are basically useless in the long run, just saying.
choosing the subject that you like, and that you're able to recite without stuttering or having a mouthful, something that can be easily spoken.
im not a theory person. those that i cannot apply easily are basically useless in the long run, just saying.
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high_time wrote...
well the only thing i understand are few thingschoosing the subject that you like, and that you're able to recite without stuttering or having a mouthful, something that can be easily spoken.
im not a theory person. those that i cannot apply easily are basically useless in the long run, just saying.
True that.
Also,
George Orwell wrote...
It is curious, but till that moment I had never realized what it means to destroy a healthy, conscious man. When I saw the prisoner step aside to avoid the puddle, I saw the mystery, the unspeakable wrongness, of cutting a life short when it is in full tide. This man was not dying, he was alive just as we were alive. All the organs of his body were working - bowels digesting food, skin renewing itself, nails growing, tissues forming - all toiling away in solemn foolery. His nails would still be growing when he stood on the drop, when he was falling through the air with a tenth of a second to live. His eyes saw the yellow gravel and the grey walls, and his brain still remembered, foresaw, reasoned - reasoned even about puddles. He and we were a party of men walking together, seeing, hearing, feeling, understanding the same world; and in two minutes, with a sudden snap, one of us would be gone - one mind less, one world less.http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/888/
Damn it's good.
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Shikinokami wrote...
I think it was "object" rather than specifying. Was that "object"? A subject? Something else? Then there's progressive, dynamic, and stative, which I don't know what they're either.Okay the examples provided that discussed transitive and intransitive verbs were:
[6] She likes me. (This is an object)
[7] He[ dances well. (This is an adverb modifying the verb dances)
For more information on what an object an subject is can be found in the second chapter because that's primarily what it deals with, but those in italics above are subjects.
The term: Progressive
Progressive (also called continuous) is the term (combined with the tense of past, present, and future) that is used to describe (in very narrow terms, because there's more on this, on everything really) something that is ongoing. It is formed by an auxiliary verb (such as be) and the -ing form of a the main verb:
[1] He is going to the store. (this is present progressive)
[2] She was writing a letter early. (this is past progressive)
[3] I will be trying to finish the grammar guide by [some unspecified date]. (future progressive)
This will be explored in Verbs (cont.), which, once it's finished, might be incorporated into the first chapter.
Stative vs. Dynamic
Dynamic verbs describe an action. Something is being done/happening in some way:
[1] He burned my house down. ('burned' is dynamic; someone is doing something)
[2] I was lying on the beach. ('was lying' states that I was doing something)
[3] She lived[i] in Cambridge when the plague happened.
Stative verbs describe states or situations and are sometimes referred to as state of being verbs. They are little more complicated though as this quote and the examples show:
Stative verbs are verbs that express a state rather than an action. They usually relate to thoughts, emotions, relationships, senses, states of being and measurements. These verbs are not usually used with ing in progressive (continuous=progressive) tenses even though they may take on time expressions such as now and at the moment.
Quote is from here
[1] I [i]believe him.
[2] I am happy.
[3] She smells sweet.
I mentioned in the first chapter that stative verbs share many verbs that belong to the class of copular verbs. According to the lists in the links below, the intersection of stative and copular verbs is: appear, be, feel, seem, sound, and taste. Now when it was said that stative verbs can't take progressive, it means they can't (normally) do this:
Both dynamic and stative verbs can be classified as copular [1], transitive [2], or intransitive [3].
For dynamic verbs:
[1] He became a hero.
[1a] He was becoming a hero. (can take the progressive, √)
[2] She drew a picture.
[2a] She was drawing a picture. (progressive, √)
[3] They swam in the ocean.
[3a] They were swimming in the ocean. (progressive, √)
For stative verbs:
[1] He is Christopher Marlowe.
[1a] He is being Christopher Marlowe. (can't take the progressive, *)
[2] I wish that she was nice. (The words in italics are acting as an object)
[2a] I am wishing that she was nice. (can't take the progressive, *)
[3] I hear well. (no object)
[3a] I am hearing well. (nope, *)
However, this discuses hear's use as both dynamic and stative verbs.
list of copular verbs
list of stative verbs
Sorry I took a long time to respond. I played a game while mulling over how I'd go about answering your questions. I'll see about updating the topic, once we've gotten through this.
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The Logophile wrote...
Shikinokami wrote...
I think it was "object" rather than specifying. Was that "object"? A subject? Something else? Then there's progressive, dynamic, and stative, which I don't know what they're either.Okay the examples provided that discussed transitive and intransitive verbs were:
[6] She likes me. (This is an object)
[7] He[ dances well. (This is an adverb modifying the verb dances)
For more information on what an object an subject is can be found in the second chapter because that's primarily what it deals with, but those in italics above are subjects.
The term: Progressive
Progressive (also called continuous) is the term (combined with the tense of past, present, and future) that is used to describe (in very narrow terms, because there's more on this, on everything really) something that is ongoing. It is formed by an auxiliary verb (such as be) and the -ing form of a the main verb:
[1] He is going to the store. (this is present progressive)
[2] She was writing a letter early. (this is past progressive)
[3] I will be trying to finish the grammar guide by [some unspecified date]. (future progressive)
This will be explored in Verbs (cont.), which, once it's finished, might be incorporated into the first chapter.
Much better. I understood a bit more than last time. Can I add a recommendation?
[7] He[ dances well. (This is an adverb modifying the verb dances)
change it to
[7] He[ dances well. (This is an adverb (Adverbs are words that modify verbs, adjectives, adverbs, and, at times, entire sentences) modifying the verb dances)
When I take notes, I add the definitions of all new words and notes immediately as they come.
The Logophile wrote...
Sorry I took a long time to respond. I played a game while mulling over how I'd go about answering your questions. I'll see about updating the topic, once we've gotten through this.I'm a tad bit late of replying myself because I forget to reply sometimes. -_-
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Geez I got a long road ahead of me of becoming a writer O.o;
And what sucks is I don't describe things well
Despite planning huge (main series, spinoffs, various side projects)
Am I overdoing things?
And what sucks is I don't describe things well
Despite planning huge (main series, spinoffs, various side projects)
Am I overdoing things?
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grimmwolf wrote...
Despite planning huge (main series, spinoffs, various side projects)Am I overdoing things?
I wouldn't say so. Whenever I get an idea, I write it down. Better to have it and never use it than decide you want to use it later but can't remember it.
Sometimes ideas take hold of us, and we must pursue them. I don't think that's in any way a bad thing. I often here people say, "Write what you want," or, "Write the kind of book you would read," and I support that 100%. However, you need to get your priorities straight. If your goal is to become a professional writer and get this series of yours published, then you should probably work on other projects first to get some practice in and improve your craft.
And what sucks is I don't describe things well
If you'd like, you could post some stuff you've written, and I or the other W&F people could tell you what we think.
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xninebreaker
FAKKU Writer
grimmwolf wrote...
Geez I got a long road ahead of me of becoming a writer O.o;And what sucks is I don't describe things well
Despite planning huge (main series, spinoffs, various side projects)
Am I overdoing things?
Everyone has a long road to walk. And I don't think it's one that really ends to begin with. Besides, we all start somewhere!
As for overdoing things, I wouldn't say that you are. What your doing is what many, if not all, writers do. Our imaginations run wild and eventually compel us to write it down in an attempt to share it with others. You should share your craft! Improving is many folds faster with the help of others.
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I seriously need a thesaurus or something xP
Well yeah when there's time I'll gladly share something with
You peeps
Well yeah when there's time I'll gladly share something with
You peeps
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Cinia Pacifica
Ojou-sama Writer
grimmwolf wrote...
I seriously need a thesaurus or something xPCould just use a dictionary. o 3o
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grimmwolf wrote...
I seriously need a thesaurus or something xPWell yeah when there's time I'll gladly share something with
You peeps
http://thesaurus.com/
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Well I guess now would be a good time as any to share a little something to you peeps...
I should walk you through this one...
So anyway, this is a tiny piece of what I am working on, I guess I should say
My main project (I'll post another like this one to help clarify)
So if you got any questions, comments, pointers, go nuts and don't hold
Back nothing! I can't learn if I can't see the problem right?
I should walk you through this one...
So anyway, this is a tiny piece of what I am working on, I guess I should say
My main project (I'll post another like this one to help clarify)
Spoiler:
So if you got any questions, comments, pointers, go nuts and don't hold
Back nothing! I can't learn if I can't see the problem right?