[Locked] Jacob is the one true Jew!
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623 wrote...
zyphil wrote...
devsonfire wrote...
zyphil wrote...
devsonfire wrote...
zyphil wrote...
Concerns the community shares over licensing and turning scanlating into the next crunchyroll fiasco. I highly doubt he'll stop here.Stop looking at it from a poor man who doesn't have enough money just to masturbate's point of view.
Look at it from the business's perspective as well.
>inb4 the business has enough money so they should leave us alone
Nope.
Stop sucking Jacob's dick so hard, and unmount your self from that horse dildo of yours.
Attacking me personally now, are we?
I'm sorry if I'm looking at things from the business's perspective because it's my major, I doubt you'd understand.
Sucking dick is your major? Wow.
Wow you're this buttmad because you can't get fap material? I've met Jacob many times and he's a cool dude. He's not some greedy, malicious prick looking to take away porn from the internet. Get over yourself.

That was what he posted about two weeks ago and look where we are now.
There are some seriously angry /a/nons right now and I wouldn't be surprised if Fakku ends up getting dragged into this mess.
As for me I'm just trying to download all the stuff in my favorites that are still up. Luckily not too many got removed so far so I'm not too sad, but seriously Jacob fucked up and I'm sure he knows it.
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devsonfire
3,000,000th Poster
cruz737 wrote...
devsonfire wrote...
zyphil wrote...
devsonfire wrote...
zyphil wrote...
devsonfire wrote...
zyphil wrote...
Concerns the community shares over licensing and turning scanlating into the next crunchyroll fiasco. I highly doubt he'll stop here.Stop looking at it from a poor man who doesn't have enough money just to masturbate's point of view.
Look at it from the business's perspective as well.
>inb4 the business has enough money so they should leave us alone
Nope.
Stop sucking Jacob's dick so hard, and unmount your self from that horse dildo of yours.
Attacking me personally now, are we?
I'm sorry if I'm looking at things from the business's perspective because it's my major, I doubt you'd understand.
Sucking dick is your major? Wow.
Stop getting mad over losing your free stuff. Pay for it if you still want it, cheapo.
You really are riding that dick hard though.
PS. Business majors are no more better than liberal arts major.
Yeah, it's true though.
Any majors has its own advantages and flaws, I dont like thinking a major is superior than the other unless proven. I just like implementing what I learn.
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devsonfire wrote...
zyphil wrote...
If I want to support the fucking artist, I'll do so on my own conditions, and with my own money given to them in Japan.Well, now you can't, because they have the power to license all the stuff unless you pay them, complaining and moaning like a bitch wouldn't budge them.
And I can't do so because of fucking Fakku.
zyphil wrote...
Anime in the west barely makes any money now, in Japan. What makes you think publishing adult manga in the western countries will actually support artists like ShindoL, Meme50, Tosh, etc?I never said it would, I just think from Wanimags's perspective. They want to make more money. So what is wrong with that?
The artists themselves won't.
zyphil wrote...
What makes you think that Fakku will actually thrive long enough? What makes you think that things will get better from here on out? Just cause he spews some shitI don't care what happens to Fakku. I'm here because I like foruming. If Fakku was shot down, I'll just go somewhere else.
Then stop sucking so much dick, and shut the fuck up.
zyphil wrote...
And for your information, I have donated to scanlators. And I have supported artists. But I did so after sampling their works, and I made sure I purchased them off of actual japanese sites.Good job! Well done! You deserve a medal!
Congrats, you have nothing else to say. Aren't you the one spewing shit about "OH YOU FREELOADER" and shit of the like?
zyphil wrote...
Do you honestly think scanlators will actually continue scanlating freely? They were allowed to cause of Sadpanda. Hell, just recently the Lusty Lady Project got a dmca notice. What makes you think that this change will allow scanlators to do what they enjoy freely?Thing is mate, you're thinking from scanlators' point of view. And what they are doing is indeed a copyright violation anyway. It's written in the law, what are you/they can do about it, when clearly they know they are breaking the law? Unless they can come up with something good to keep what they are doing with the law off their back, this kind of shit will always happen, and it's their job to deal with it
Granted what they were doing was in fact illegal, however, they did so to cater to the community. What's so bad about that? Also, a lot of these scanlators actually support the artists themselves. Now they can't give to the community, and procure hobbies cause C&D letters will be more rampant.
Fuck off with your "business perspective" bullshit. There's no money to be made for the actual artists.
Again, I never said I saw this from ARTIST PERSPECTIVE. You said it, it's a business perspective.
The only group making profits off of this are Fakku and their staff, and Wani. The artists get shit, which is bad. How is that a good thing?
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
devsonfire wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
devsonfire wrote...
zyphil wrote...
devsonfire wrote...
zyphil wrote...
devsonfire wrote...
zyphil wrote...
Concerns the community shares over licensing and turning scanlating into the next crunchyroll fiasco. I highly doubt he'll stop here.Stop looking at it from a poor man who doesn't have enough money just to masturbate's point of view.
Look at it from the business's perspective as well.
>inb4 the business has enough money so they should leave us alone
Nope.
Stop sucking Jacob's dick so hard, and unmount your self from that horse dildo of yours.
Attacking me personally now, are we?
I'm sorry if I'm looking at things from the business's perspective because it's my major, I doubt you'd understand.
Sucking dick is your major? Wow.
Stop getting mad over losing your free stuff. Pay for it if you still want it, cheapo.
You really are riding that dick hard though.
PS. Business majors are no more better than liberal arts major.
Yeah, it's true though.
Any majors has its own advantages and flaws, I dont like thinking a major is superior than the other unless proven. I just like implementing what I learn.
No, you actually are at the bottom of the totem pole with Liberal Arts major. Also this more of a legal kerfuffle. There's no guarantee people will suddenly use this service because an alternative one now has less variety, more than likely people will use a more convenient and free method. Also people will be wary of this new market that butted into the old one.
I'm sure removing digital ones that translate various different languages (Chinese, Korean, Spanish, Portugese, Russian) does nobody any favors.
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devsonfire
3,000,000th Poster
cruz737 wrote...
No, you actually are at the bottom of the totem pole with Liberal Arts major. Also this more of a legal kerfuffle. There's no guarantee people will suddenly use this service because an alternative one now has less variety, more than likely people will use a more convenient and free method. Also people will be wary of this new market that butted into the old one.I'm sure removing digital ones that translate various different languages (Chinese, Korean, Spanish, Portugese, Russian) does nobody any favors.
Oh wow. Okay.
On a serious note, you are not wrong. I would bet 100 dollars of my money that someone will come up with a method somehow and be able to provide all the work that was deleted for free. And all of us (I mean, all of us) would go there.
BUT, if a new bill passed and shitstorm happens and this and that and we end up with only one source, it's not the end of the world (well it is for that guy)
EDIT: Did I ever mention to you that my major is Accounting & Commercial Law? Very irrelevant I know, but still within my scope of learning, so yeah.
zyphil wrote...
And I can't do so because of fucking Fakku.What? You can't subscribe? Well duh the magazine is on sale, and there is no definite thing that there will be a website where you can read it.
zyphil wrote...
The artists themselves won't.So what if the artist won't? They need a publisher for their work to be known (and make money), and their publisher wants to make money. If they don't wanna make money, they won't need a publisher. This shitstorm won't happen.
zyphil wrote...
Then stop sucking so much dick, and shut the fuck up.I don't do this to defend Jacob, or Fakku. I do this because someone are complaining that they can't violate a copyright.
zyphil wrote...
Congrats, you have nothing else to say. Aren't you the one spewing shit about "OH YOU FREELOADER" and shit of the like?Sorry, I shouldn't have used sarcasm.
zyphil wrote...
Granted what they were doing was in fact illegal, however, they did so to cater to the community. What's so bad about that? Also, a lot of these scanlators actually support the artists themselves. Now they can't give to the community, and procure hobbies cause C&D letters will be more rampant.Robin Hood is still a thief, regardless of who he's giving the money for.
It is still a crime to kill people, even though he was corrupt (Akame Ga Kill, if you don't get my reference).
Do I still have to explain why all the things I mentioned are related to Scanlators?
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate scanlators, they used their skill to provide services for the community, often for free! It's honourable, to say the least. But, THEY ARE STILL BREAKING THE LAW, HOWEVER YOU PUT IT. You and I too, for reading/watching/listening to copyright things that we violated.
zyphil wrote...
The only group making profits off of this are Fakku and their staff, and Wani. The artists get shit, which is bad. How is that a good thing?Not necessarily. You assumed the artist get shit. Do you really think people in the right mind would let themselves get shit?
If I was an artist, and I only get shit from my publisher, I just either:
1. Move to another publisher.
2. Stop drawing for a publisher and have my manga/doujin available for free.
It could be me but, I have one thing in common with all the mangakas. We are all human and we have a pride.
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devsonfire
3,000,000th Poster
I understand what Jacob is thinking. I understand that it's well within one's legal right to do so, but I have to admit that Jacob is doing it wrong.
To Jacob:
To Jacob:
Spoiler:
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Antw0n wrote...

demonnerd wrote...
Spoiler:
and shall you suffer dearly
Gentlemen.
[size=28]EVERYTHING IS BURNING.[/h]
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zyphil wrote...
The only group making profits off of this are Fakku and their staff, and Wani. The artists get shit, which is bad. How is that a good thing?You have no idea what you're talking about, so just stop posting. We work directly with both the artists and Wani, the artists get a cut of everything sold.
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devsonfire wrote...
zyphil wrote...
And I can't do so because of fucking Fakku.What? You can't subscribe? Well duh the magazine is on sale, and there is no definite thing that there will be a website where you can read it.
zyphil wrote...
The artists themselves won't.So what if the artist won't? They need a publisher for their work to be known (and make money), and their publisher wants to make money. If they don't wanna make money, they won't need a publisher. This shitstorm won't happen.
zyphil wrote...
Then stop sucking so much dick, and shut the fuck up.I don't do this to defend Jacob, or Fakku. I do this because someone are complaining that they can't violate a copyright.
zyphil wrote...
Congrats, you have nothing else to say. Aren't you the one spewing shit about "OH YOU FREELOADER" and shit of the like?Sorry, I shouldn't have used sarcasm.
zyphil wrote...
Granted what they were doing was in fact illegal, however, they did so to cater to the community. What's so bad about that? Also, a lot of these scanlators actually support the artists themselves. Now they can't give to the community, and procure hobbies cause C&D letters will be more rampant.Robin Hood is still a thief, regardless of who he's giving the money for.
It is still a crime to kill people, even though he was corrupt (Akame Ga Kill, if you don't get my reference).
Do I still have to explain why all the things I mentioned are related to Scanlators?
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate scanlators, they used their skill to provide services for the community, often for free! It's honourable, to say the least. But, THEY ARE STILL BREAKING THE LAW, HOWEVER YOU PUT IT. You and I too, for reading/watching/listening to copyright things that we violated.
zyphil wrote...
The only group making profits off of this are Fakku and their staff, and Wani. The artists get shit, which is bad. How is that a good thing?Not necessarily. You assumed the artist get shit. Do you really think people in the right mind would let themselves get shit?
If I was an artist, and I only get shit from my publisher, I just either:
1. Move to another publisher.
2. Stop drawing for a publisher and have my manga/doujin available for free.
It could be me but, I have one thing in common with all the mangakas. We are all human and we have a pride.
I don't want to buy a piece of work that doesn't suit my fancy. How would I know what I like without testing it first? Granted, new works might be uploaded to different sites, but results might be limited.
So what if the artist won't? Are you fucking kidding me. Hahahahaha, that's some grade-A shit right there. Kudos.
Publishers need artists more than Artists need them. Especially the more popular ones.A lot of them are contracted, and not freelance. Also, they only make money in Japan. After site maintenance, server maintenance, employee pay, benefits (if Fakku has them), building maintenance (if they're working in an actual building), rent (if they're in an actual building), translator pay, and publishing cuts, the artists themselves won't make anything really. Especially when there's not that much of a demand for it.
No, it seems like you do it just to ride Jacob's dick a little bit more.
No, you shouldn't have used sarcasm, cause if you knew anything about sarcasm, is that it's more expressive and can't really be put into text.
"It is still a crime to kill people, even though he was corrupt", and Yes I get that reference. But no, that's not how that shit works in this day and age. I can go into it, but murder is murder, sure. Illegal or a crime? Nope. It depends on the circumstance. Bad analogy. A person who kills a serial killer in self defense or in the heat of passion can be let off scot-free. Nice try though. And granted, copyright and what scanlators do is still illegal, however no one really minds, and people actually care. I don't really have much to say about the topic of scanlators, except they don't have a safe haven to post their work on, so i'll leave it at that.
Except you aren't an artist, and none of those actions would actually work if they signed a contract or received pay (unless they freelance), and wouldn't do so well for them. Granted they can do doujinshi most of the time to get paid, but it'd be hard to live off of that.
@Jacob; Why should I believe you? That's what western companies say about anime, and you've already lied once.
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devsonfire
3,000,000th Poster
Jacob wrote...
https://www.fakku.net/forums/feedback-suggestions-and-support/exhentai-purgeYou should let Wani do all that though. Now you're just public enemy no 1
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devsonfire wrote...
Jacob wrote...
https://www.fakku.net/forums/feedback-suggestions-and-support/exhentai-purgeYou should let Wani do all that though. Now you're just public enemy no 1
We haven't sent a single DMCA to anyone, the only thing I did was request that E-Hentai not upload our books once we release them. And we haven't released them yet.
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Jacob wrote...
zyphil wrote...
The only group making profits off of this are Fakku and their staff, and Wani. The artists get shit, which is bad. How is that a good thing?You have no idea what you're talking about, so just stop posting. We work directly with both the artists and Wani, the artists get a cut of everything sold.
you don't get it do you when you let wani in to the usa you gave them the right to dictate everything.
4chan wants you dead
i suggest you break what ever agreement you have with wani now.
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Jacob wrote...
devsonfire wrote...
Jacob wrote...
https://www.fakku.net/forums/feedback-suggestions-and-support/exhentai-purgeYou should let Wani do all that though. Now you're just public enemy no 1
We haven't sent a single DMCA to anyone, the only thing I did was request that E-Hentai not upload our books once we release them. And we haven't released them yet.
one thing though.
since Fakku books are bringing the hentai manga to the states, wouldn't they start falling under American copyright law, much like published manga here do?
because i for one don't really mind takedowns, as long as they actually release it here and don't do it just to be an asshole.
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Are you guys really saying Jacob does evil?
If I were you I'd read whatever agreements they signed before accusing them of bad bad things to find out if artists do get profits or not.
Well.. dunno if we can find that out though.. cuz I don't know if contracts whatever can be viewed by anyone else.
If I were you I'd read whatever agreements they signed before accusing them of bad bad things to find out if artists do get profits or not.
Well.. dunno if we can find that out though.. cuz I don't know if contracts whatever can be viewed by anyone else.
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623
FAKKU QA
demonnerd wrote...
Jacob wrote...
zyphil wrote...
The only group making profits off of this are Fakku and their staff, and Wani. The artists get shit, which is bad. How is that a good thing?You have no idea what you're talking about, so just stop posting. We work directly with both the artists and Wani, the artists get a cut of everything sold.
you don't get it do you when you let wani in to the usa you gave them the right to dictate everything.
4chan wants you dead
i suggest you break what ever agreement you have with wani now.
lawl. "Hey, uh Wanimag? You know that business deal we've been talking about for the past few months? Well, the internet got mad so we want to call it off now. Hope that's cool."
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Tsamari
C.E.O of Pancakes
623 wrote...
demonnerd wrote...
Jacob wrote...
zyphil wrote...
The only group making profits off of this are Fakku and their staff, and Wani. The artists get shit, which is bad. How is that a good thing?You have no idea what you're talking about, so just stop posting. We work directly with both the artists and Wani, the artists get a cut of everything sold.
you don't get it do you when you let wani in to the usa you gave them the right to dictate everything.
4chan wants you dead
i suggest you break what ever agreement you have with wani now.
lawl. "Hey, uh Wanimag? You know that business deal we've been talking about for the past few months? Well, the internet got mad so we want to call it off now. Hope that's cool."
[color=#ff69b4]People over the internet are serious business and never wrong.
