PSFAG
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Drifter995 wrote...
ecchigaijin wrote...
Why does anyone harp on consoles for being expensive? I pay $400 or whatever, and that can be all I pay for the life of the console to play a new game in hardware costs. Even from PC gaming friends I know who moderately update their systems, this money is easily spent in two years upgrading their system.To be honest, the only way I see you saving money on using a PC is on game purchases (I buy one game each year, and let the PS+ membership I have work on filling up my library otherwise). With PC you have Steam sales, or if you're wearing an eye patch, torrent sites.
If you built your own computer, every time a new console comes out, that's $600 each time a console comes out. If you've built a computer, you're already ahead of that. If you haven't built one, you can chuck $600 in and be better than the console, and then only throw small amounts of money at the computer to keep it better than the consoles to come.
But, regardless. I have both, play both, and have no care.
My gaming pc setup is decent, only spent $700 in the australian market, which would be less than $500 in america I imagine.
It's about time for me to upgrade to ssd's, a new cpu, and more ram. Otherwise, it's perfect
$600 for a new console? I guess I must have my prices wrong. Not that I buy new consoles anyhow, wait a year, the library's filled and gotten cheap for good titles. And if your gaming PC doesn't need to be completely rebuilt within the life of a console (what, 6-10 years?), I'd say it's not playing anywhere near the "uber" levels a PC can hit anyhow.
It doesn't really matter to me, I have a Steam account and enough games given to me by friends over the years that I'll be happy when I do get a new computer. But new games would make a lot more sense to me on a console in my current situation, given that PC games often cost more here for no particular reason and you can't bypass those horrible prices half the time like you can with console purchases.
cruz737 wrote...
ecchigaijin wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
My point still stands, anyone who makes some arbitrary standard or requirement for what makes a "true" gamer is a twat.Why do you care so much about their statement about what makes a "true" gamer or not? I mean, no one really thinks they're not a gamer if they don't. It's just some random fool's idea of what a gamer should be. No one gave it any thought, why did you feel the need to rail on them so hard for it?
Just curious. I know, they're a twat. But at least you told us what the standards or requirements for THAT are. (rolls eyes)
1. Stating actions like "rolls eyes" make me want to not interact with you. Take that shit to CTFG.
2. Why would I answer loaded questions?
If you're going to act like you're better, at least attempt to actually be a better person.
Than you? That's not hard, since you go around handing out definitions of what makes people a twat. But you got me. I certainly can't be a good person for calling out someone who rails on people who make definitions of one thing by using them as a definition for an insult.
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Spoiler:
You obviously didn't read it right. He said "If you built your own computer every time a new console comes out, that's $600 each time a console comes out." That means every time you build a computer, you spend $600 dollars on that rather than $400/$500 for a console. However, most people don't need to do that if they just spend lightly to upgrade their PC every once in a while.
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
ecchigaijin wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
ecchigaijin wrote...
Why does anyone harp on consoles for being expensive? I pay $400 or whatever, and that can be all I pay for the life of the console to play a new game in hardware costs. Even from PC gaming friends I know who moderately update their systems, this money is easily spent in two years upgrading their system.To be honest, the only way I see you saving money on using a PC is on game purchases (I buy one game each year, and let the PS+ membership I have work on filling up my library otherwise). With PC you have Steam sales, or if you're wearing an eye patch, torrent sites.
If you built your own computer, every time a new console comes out, that's $600 each time a console comes out. If you've built a computer, you're already ahead of that. If you haven't built one, you can chuck $600 in and be better than the console, and then only throw small amounts of money at the computer to keep it better than the consoles to come.
But, regardless. I have both, play both, and have no care.
My gaming pc setup is decent, only spent $700 in the australian market, which would be less than $500 in america I imagine.
It's about time for me to upgrade to ssd's, a new cpu, and more ram. Otherwise, it's perfect
$600 for a new console? I guess I must have my prices wrong. Not that I buy new consoles anyhow, wait a year, the library's filled and gotten cheap for good titles. And if your gaming PC doesn't need to be completely rebuilt within the life of a console (what, 6-10 years?), I'd say it's not playing anywhere near the "uber" levels a PC can hit anyhow.
It doesn't really matter to me, I have a Steam account and enough games given to me by friends over the years that I'll be happy when I do get a new computer. But new games would make a lot more sense to me on a console in my current situation, given that PC games often cost more here for no particular reason and you can't bypass those horrible prices half the time like you can with console purchases.
Yep, $549 for a ps4, and $50 more for the camera, if you want that. xbox is $599.
Not usually that long, normally within 3-5 years, this current gen was strangely long.
And yep, will be buying one when it's cheaper, and there is more games worth getting.
I've chucked $700 at it thus far, about to chuck another $800-1k when I next can to get boot speeds up to where they should be, physics to be up to a current gen level, and more ram, etc. It's currently fine for playing games on highest spec, but just a few things are killing me. Boot speed and ram whoring of my two most used programs being two main ones.
As for pc games costing more, I have no idea where you are, but wat.
Brand new console games cost 99-120$ here, and pc games cost $79 straight off the bat.
then there's steam sales, as you'd know.
We get fucked in the ass by prices on everything, basically. so steam sales are nice.
But either way, I still have both. My pc is what I chill on the most though. cbf using the consoles atm.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Drifter995 wrote...
Yep, $549 for a ps4, and $50 more for the camera, if you want that. xbox is $599.
Better be aussie dingos or you're getting ripped on retail.
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Drifter995 wrote...
Yep, $549 for a ps4, and $50 more for the camera, if you want that. xbox is $599.
I think Australia is the only region being really hurt on the launch price of the PS4, which given most things I know about Australia and gaming is not so surprising. It'll be around $400 here when it does come out, and I'll be holding off. As for game prices when they first come out, I don't usually get games when they first come out, and generally wait until they roll around on PS+ for free, or at least very cheap. I make one exception a year for day one purchases, and this year, that was GTA5. Loving it. So that is about $100 a year on games for me, personally.
I also love about the PS3 (was with 360, but Microsoft is not well represented here in the land of the rising sun) is not having to fuss about anything. My console is limited, sure, but I will never have to think about minimum requirements for anything. I have a PS3. This game requires a PS3. Good to go.
Gallowloch wrote...
Spoiler:
You obviously didn't read it right. He said "If you built your own computer every time a new console comes out, that's $600 each time a console comes out." That means every time you build a computer, you spend $600 dollars on that rather than $400/$500 for a console. However, most people don't need to do that if they just spend lightly to upgrade their PC every once in a while.
Ah, all right. My apologies. Of course, usually the biggest reason for having a PC as opposed to console - or on most threads of this vain - is to have the best you can. To play on ultra, I doubt you're just spending slight amounts.
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
animefreak_usa wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
Yep, $549 for a ps4, and $50 more for the camera, if you want that. xbox is $599.
Better be aussie dingos or your getting ripped on retail.
Oh man, we're getting fucked in the ass on retail.
As I said, $120 for console games, and we get massive increase on windows and adobe related shit. not to mention steam. it's fucked
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Drifter995 wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
Yep, $549 for a ps4, and $50 more for the camera, if you want that. xbox is $599.
Better be aussie dingos or your getting ripped on retail.
Oh man, we're getting fucked in the ass on retail.
As I said, $120 for console games, and we get massive increase on windows and adobe related shit. not to mention steam. it's fucked
Have they at least stopped trying to filter your internet?
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
ecchigaijin wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
ecchigaijin wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
My point still stands, anyone who makes some arbitrary standard or requirement for what makes a "true" gamer is a twat.Why do you care so much about their statement about what makes a "true" gamer or not? I mean, no one really thinks they're not a gamer if they don't. It's just some random fool's idea of what a gamer should be. No one gave it any thought, why did you feel the need to rail on them so hard for it?
Just curious. I know, they're a twat. But at least you told us what the standards or requirements for THAT are. (rolls eyes)
1. Stating actions like "rolls eyes" make me want to not interact with you. Take that shit to CTFG.
2. Why would I answer loaded questions?
If you're going to act like you're better, at least attempt to actually be a better person.
Than you? That's not hard, since you go around handing out definitions of what makes people a twat. But you got me. I certainly can't be a good person for calling out someone who rails on people who make definitions of one thing by using them as a definition for an insult.
>handing out definitions
>rails
You're not very good at this are you?
Also thanks for ignoring the point about loaded questions. You sure showed me.
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Drifter995 wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
Yep, $549 for a ps4, and $50 more for the camera, if you want that. xbox is $599.
Better be aussie dingos or your getting ripped on retail.
Oh man, we're getting fucked in the ass on retail.
As I said, $120 for console games, and we get massive increase on windows and adobe related shit. not to mention steam. it's fucked
You'd probably be better off just importing games. $120 for one (standard edition) game is ridiculous.
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
ecchigaijin wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
Yep, $549 for a ps4, and $50 more for the camera, if you want that. xbox is $599.
Better be aussie dingos or your getting ripped on retail.
Oh man, we're getting fucked in the ass on retail.
As I said, $120 for console games, and we get massive increase on windows and adobe related shit. not to mention steam. it's fucked
Have they at least stopped trying to filter your internet?
They'll keep trying, and we'll keep telling them to go fuck themselves
Ammy wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
Yep, $549 for a ps4, and $50 more for the camera, if you want that. xbox is $599.
Better be aussie dingos or your getting ripped on retail.
Oh man, we're getting fucked in the ass on retail.
As I said, $120 for console games, and we get massive increase on windows and adobe related shit. not to mention steam. it's fucked
You'd probably be better off just importing games. $120 for one (standard edition) game is ridiculous.
Most of the time we import from the uk, cause the classification rules are hitler, and prices are better
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
artcellrox wrote...
Any critical inquiry labels you as obsessive. Confrontation is always seen as a negative thing.
A lot of people in one section giving their piece of mind(even giving him advice) gets the whole section labeled as violent and full of misanthropes.
Cheek in tongue dribble between two people gets labeled as shitstorms.
I'm not sure if want to come here anymore.
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
cruz737 wrote...
artcellrox wrote...
Any critical inquiry labels you as obsessive. Confrontation is always seen as a negative thing.
A lot of people in one section giving their piece of mind(even giving him advice) gets the whole section labeled as violent and full of misanthropes.
Cheek in tongue dribble between two people gets labeled as shitstorms.
I'm not sure if want to come here anymore.
As in ib?
Was it always like this? Or has it only recently turned to this?
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cruz737 wrote...
ecchigaijin wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
ecchigaijin wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
My point still stands, anyone who makes some arbitrary standard or requirement for what makes a "true" gamer is a twat.Why do you care so much about their statement about what makes a "true" gamer or not? I mean, no one really thinks they're not a gamer if they don't. It's just some random fool's idea of what a gamer should be. No one gave it any thought, why did you feel the need to rail on them so hard for it?
Just curious. I know, they're a twat. But at least you told us what the standards or requirements for THAT are. (rolls eyes)
1. Stating actions like "rolls eyes" make me want to not interact with you. Take that shit to CTFG.
2. Why would I answer loaded questions?
If you're going to act like you're better, at least attempt to actually be a better person.
Than you? That's not hard, since you go around handing out definitions of what makes people a twat. But you got me. I certainly can't be a good person for calling out someone who rails on people who make definitions of one thing by using them as a definition for an insult.
>handing out definitions
>rails
You're not very good at this are you?
Also thanks for ignoring the point about loaded questions. You sure showed me.
I don't know, you seemed to ignore the irony in telling someone what makes them a twat for telling other people what does or does not make them a "real" gamer. (hint: you're both doing the same thing)
As for what I ignored, if you're going to use numbers in your reply, at least correlate those numbers to numbers you add to the relative sections in my original post. I do my replies on the train, which means that reading your reply is okay, but scrolling up through other stuff is a pain in the ass. If you don't properly reference it, I sure as hell ain't going to bother with it. Unless you're expecting me to bother to post when I am home and have... other shit to do and stuff.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
ecchigaijin wrote...
I don't know, you seemed to ignore the irony in telling someone what makes them a twat for telling other people what does or does not make them a "real" gamer. (hint: you're both doing the same thing)
As for what I ignored, if you're going to use numbers in your reply, at least correlate those numbers to numbers you add to the relative sections in my original post. I do my replies on the train, which means that reading your reply is okay, but scrolling up through other stuff is a pain in the ass. If you don't properly reference it, I sure as hell ain't going to bother with it. Unless you're expecting me to bother to post when I am home and have... other shit to do and stuff.
I never claimed there was a concrete definition for what a "real gamer" is.(point out where I made such claims)
Just that making some arbitrary definition that only suits the creators point of view is ignorant and arrogant, therefore making them a twat.
And again, thanks for ignoring the point about loaded questions.
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cruz737 wrote...
ecchigaijin wrote...
I don't know, you seemed to ignore the irony in telling someone what makes them a twat for telling other people what does or does not make them a "real" gamer. (hint: you're both doing the same thing)
As for what I ignored, if you're going to use numbers in your reply, at least correlate those numbers to numbers you add to the relative sections in my original post. I do my replies on the train, which means that reading your reply is okay, but scrolling up through other stuff is a pain in the ass. If you don't properly reference it, I sure as hell ain't going to bother with it. Unless you're expecting me to bother to post when I am home and have... other shit to do and stuff.
I never claimed there was a concrete definition for what a "real gamer" is.(point out where I made such claims)
Just that making some arbitrary definition that only suits the creators point of view is ignorant and arrogant, therefore making them a twat.
And again, thanks for ignoring the point about loaded questions.
Thanks for not being able to read in a straight line. I now know not to expect proper understanding and responses from you (in more than one thread) and will know not to expect such in the future.
Or use really, REALLY easy English.
The wheels on the bus go round and round...
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
ecchigaijin wrote...
Spoiler:
Okay, so you pointless insult me after answering your questions. You also don't bother to explain why or how I'm not reading in a straight line.
As for the other thread, I know I'm right. Don't know why you bring that up here though.
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cruz737 wrote...
ecchigaijin wrote...
Spoiler:
Okay, so you pointless insult me after answering your questions. You also don't bother to explain why or how I'm not reading in a straight line.
As for the other thread, I know I'm right. Don't know why you bring that up here though.
I brought up your horrible reading skills in both threads because they apply in both threads. Both time you obviously didn't understand common grammar points strung in a sentence, and responded in a way that made that obvious.
So yeah, I "pointless insult" you.
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ecchigaijin wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
ecchigaijin wrote...
Spoiler:
Okay, so you pointless insult me after answering your questions. You also don't bother to explain why or how I'm not reading in a straight line.
As for the other thread, I know I'm right. Don't know why you bring that up here though.
I brought up your horrible reading skills in both threads because they apply in both threads. Both time you obviously didn't understand common grammar points strung in a sentence, and responded in a way that made that obvious.
So yeah, I "pointless insult" you.
So much autism...
