so will you hit this girls?
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Waar wrote...
Lamz0r wrote...
Polish and Hungarian are like a piece of cake compared to Czech. At least according to some researches that have been going on around.source?
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Also, it's pretty clear, taking in consideration that Polish has only about half of the grammar compared to Czech.
And Hungarian seems hard just because it doesn't have anything in common with Slavic/Germanic/Romanic language branches.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
All that aside, the British Foreign Office conducted a language study recently and concluded that the most difficult language to learn is Basque, spoken in parts of Spain and France, followed closely by Hungarian, which has 35 cases or noun forms.
There are other candidates for the Most Difficult Language to Learn such as Arabic, Russian,
Japanese, Finnish, Hungarian, Navajo and many others.
Japanese, Finnish, Hungarian, Navajo and many others.
There is not much information based on data. One list was developed by the US military's Defense Language Institute. They developed categories of language difficulty. Some is based on how hard it was for Peace Corps volunteers to learn the language; some on other information. They use the information to determine how long their classes should be as well as to test the aptitude of candidate students for various languages.
Of the languages the institute most commonly teaches, here is the list
Category I: English, French, Italian, Portuguese (Brazilian), Portuguese (European), and Spanish
Category II: German, Romanian
Category III: Czech, Greek, Hebrew, Persian-Farsi, Polish, Russian, Serbian/Croatian, Tagalog, Thai, Turkish, Ukrainian, and Vietnamese
Category IV: Arabic, Chinese Mandarin, Japanese, and Korean
The US DEpartmentof State has compiled a list of "approximate learning expectations for a number of languages based on the length of time it takes to achieve Speaking 3: General Professional Proficiency in Speaking (S3) and Reading 3: General Professional Proficiency in Reading (R3). The list is limited to languages taught at the Foreign Service Institute."
Category I: Languages closely related to English
23-24 weeks (575-600 class hours)
Afrikaans Danish
Dutch
French
Italian
Norwegian
Portuguese
Romanian
Spanish
Swedish
Category II: Languages with significant linguistic
and/or cultural differences from English
44 weeks (1100 class hours)
Albanian
Amharic
Armenian
Azerbaijani
Bengali
Bosnian
Bulgarian
Burmese
Croatian
Czech
*Estonian
*Finnish
*Georgian
Greek
Hebrew
Hindi
*Hungarian
Icelandic
Khmer
Lao
Latvian Lithuanian
Macedonian
*Mongolian
Nepali
Pashto
Persian (Dari, Farsi, Tajik)
Polish
Russian
Serbian
Sinhalese
Slovak
Slovenian
Tagalog
*Thai
Turkish
Ukrainian
Urdu
Uzbek
*Vietnamese
Xhosa
Zulu
Category III: Languages which are exceptionally difficult for native English speakers
88 weeks (second year of study in-country)
(2200 class hours)
Arabic
Cantonese
Mandarin
Japanese
Korean
Other languages
German 30 weeks (750 class hours)
Indonesian, Malaysian, Swahili 36 weeks (900 class hours)
Languages preceded by asterisks are typically somewhat more difficult for native English speakers to learn than other languages in the same category
Of the languages the institute most commonly teaches, here is the list
Category I: English, French, Italian, Portuguese (Brazilian), Portuguese (European), and Spanish
Category II: German, Romanian
Category III: Czech, Greek, Hebrew, Persian-Farsi, Polish, Russian, Serbian/Croatian, Tagalog, Thai, Turkish, Ukrainian, and Vietnamese
Category IV: Arabic, Chinese Mandarin, Japanese, and Korean
The US DEpartmentof State has compiled a list of "approximate learning expectations for a number of languages based on the length of time it takes to achieve Speaking 3: General Professional Proficiency in Speaking (S3) and Reading 3: General Professional Proficiency in Reading (R3). The list is limited to languages taught at the Foreign Service Institute."
Category I: Languages closely related to English
23-24 weeks (575-600 class hours)
Afrikaans Danish
Dutch
French
Italian
Norwegian
Portuguese
Romanian
Spanish
Swedish
Category II: Languages with significant linguistic
and/or cultural differences from English
44 weeks (1100 class hours)
Albanian
Amharic
Armenian
Azerbaijani
Bengali
Bosnian
Bulgarian
Burmese
Croatian
Czech
*Estonian
*Finnish
*Georgian
Greek
Hebrew
Hindi
*Hungarian
Icelandic
Khmer
Lao
Latvian Lithuanian
Macedonian
*Mongolian
Nepali
Pashto
Persian (Dari, Farsi, Tajik)
Polish
Russian
Serbian
Sinhalese
Slovak
Slovenian
Tagalog
*Thai
Turkish
Ukrainian
Urdu
Uzbek
*Vietnamese
Xhosa
Zulu
Category III: Languages which are exceptionally difficult for native English speakers
88 weeks (second year of study in-country)
(2200 class hours)
Arabic
Cantonese
Mandarin
Japanese
Korean
Other languages
German 30 weeks (750 class hours)
Indonesian, Malaysian, Swahili 36 weeks (900 class hours)
Languages preceded by asterisks are typically somewhat more difficult for native English speakers to learn than other languages in the same category
Czech, Polish and Hungarian all take about the same amount of time while Hungarian is accepted as harder than the other two.
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Waar wrote...
Spoiler:
Czech, Polish and Hungarian all take about the same amount of time while Hungarian is accepted as harder than the other two.
Maybe for a native English speaker.
But as I said, it's subjective based on your native language. For me, Czech is native, so other slavic languages ((especially)Slovakian; Polish, Russian, Serbian) are like a piece of cake. You can communicate on a decent level with person speaking those languages without ever hearing them before.
Germanic languages are harder but still rather easy (mainly because the grammar is simillar, and well, waaaay simpler than anything in Czech), compared to Arabic/Asian languages. But this is just a point of view from this side.
Japanese/Chinese person would say a complete opposite of this, and some dude from Yemen would probably suicide bomb you after saying that your thesis is not true.
Proved by a fact: there's a large Vietnamese community in my country and they understand/speak Czech very well. When you speak Slovakian to them (now bear in mind that Slovakian is so simmilar to Czech, that for example, colleges even allow students from Slovakia to use Slovakian in all their works, without any problems) they have no idea what the heck you want from them. Their childern that were born here and are more or less natives here now are excluded from this of course.
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Holy fucking fuck shit! 'S an argument about the English language!
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NEXUS
Since 2010
serpentura wrote...
Mandarin is the most common language on the planetthe only word i know in that language is "bolanchaw"
LOL
Isn't Cantonese the most widely spoken language in China?
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Waar wrote...
point is: Hungarian > Czechall my previous statement stated.
For English speaking person, maybe. Otherwise, don't think so.
But I can't really compare anthing with Czech, so, Imma quit this.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
SLAYER NEXUS wrote...
serpentura wrote...
Mandarin is the most common language on the planetthe only word i know in that language is "bolanchaw"
LOL
Isn't Cantonese the most widely spoken language in China?
no, Canton province and Hong Kong only.
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I've tried my hand on Mandarin, Arabic and Korean, not so long as to be fixed in my head, but they don't seemed that hard at all...
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Hey, let's keep this discussion going. I have to write an essay on linguistics anyway so post the sources of your arguments. But also I'd like to note that there is no such thing as "the hardest language to learn", as it differs from what first-language(s) background you have. I might be willing to accept that Hungarian and other Uralic languages are among the most difficult languages to learn for a native-english speaker. Czech, not so much since it have roots in proto-european language.
Personally I'd state that Saami(with all it's varieties) is among the absolutely hardest languages to learn for anyone without a Uralic-language background. (Finnish, Hungarian, Estonian and Serbian to a certain point)
And on topic (O_O) I wouldn't hit nor "hit" any of those ladies.
Personally I'd state that Saami(with all it's varieties) is among the absolutely hardest languages to learn for anyone without a Uralic-language background. (Finnish, Hungarian, Estonian and Serbian to a certain point)
And on topic (O_O) I wouldn't hit nor "hit" any of those ladies.