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This was a good read.
http://floobynooby.blogspot.be/2013/12/the-cinematography-of-incredibles-part-1.html
http://floobynooby.blogspot.be/2013/12/the-cinematography-of-incredibles-part-1.html
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Hey guys, I was directed here after creating a post requesting assistance in looking for an artist who would be willing to tackle this idea for a hentai I've had for a few years, but after several failed attempts and hair-pulling, realized I lack the artistic talent to create this vision. Here's my idea:
The main male character is a man who has it all, the perfect job, the perfect house, the perfect wife, essentially the perfect life. He has everything except the one thing he and his wife really want: a child. After several failed attempts, they finally manage to conceive one. Unfortunately, nine months later there's a complication during the pregnancy. The complication results in the death of the husbands unborn child and also his wife. Stricken by grief, he receives a demotion at work, loses his nice house, falls into a deep boozy depression and rejects contact with outside world.
One day, he remembers a happier time with his wife and how much they desired children. Thinking a child will fill the hole in his heart, he gathers a large amount of what's left of his fortune and heads to the an orphanage. Once there, he observes all the children, and imagines what his life would have been like if his wife lived long enough to provide him with children. On impulse he ends up adopting a large number of little girls.
Around ten years later, things have improved. He's ascended back to his old position at work, gets a larger house to accommodate his daughters, and has kicked alcohol. His adopted daughters have all matured into nearly all the female archetypes in anime/manga; the "tsundere", the "kuudere", the "dandere", the "moe", the "genki", the "oujo", the "kamidere", the "bokukko", the "Dojikko", the "magenekko", etc.. Obviously these girls have matured physically in various ways as well; short-tall, pettanko-oppai, short hair-long hai, etc..
Anyway, all these girls have come to love and worship their father for giving him the perfect life. However, despite the improvements, he still misses his wife. His daughters sense his sadness and loneliness and all decided to "help" him with his sadness in the way you all expect, what with this being a hentai.
Obviously, this would be a harem, vanilla, semi-incest story with one or two fetishes. The adoptive daughters would have sex with their father both individually and as a group.
I went through like half a sketch book struggling to draw this and then I just decided to give up. So here I am, asking if anyone would like to tackle my vision and bring it to life.
The main male character is a man who has it all, the perfect job, the perfect house, the perfect wife, essentially the perfect life. He has everything except the one thing he and his wife really want: a child. After several failed attempts, they finally manage to conceive one. Unfortunately, nine months later there's a complication during the pregnancy. The complication results in the death of the husbands unborn child and also his wife. Stricken by grief, he receives a demotion at work, loses his nice house, falls into a deep boozy depression and rejects contact with outside world.
One day, he remembers a happier time with his wife and how much they desired children. Thinking a child will fill the hole in his heart, he gathers a large amount of what's left of his fortune and heads to the an orphanage. Once there, he observes all the children, and imagines what his life would have been like if his wife lived long enough to provide him with children. On impulse he ends up adopting a large number of little girls.
Around ten years later, things have improved. He's ascended back to his old position at work, gets a larger house to accommodate his daughters, and has kicked alcohol. His adopted daughters have all matured into nearly all the female archetypes in anime/manga; the "tsundere", the "kuudere", the "dandere", the "moe", the "genki", the "oujo", the "kamidere", the "bokukko", the "Dojikko", the "magenekko", etc.. Obviously these girls have matured physically in various ways as well; short-tall, pettanko-oppai, short hair-long hai, etc..
Anyway, all these girls have come to love and worship their father for giving him the perfect life. However, despite the improvements, he still misses his wife. His daughters sense his sadness and loneliness and all decided to "help" him with his sadness in the way you all expect, what with this being a hentai.
Obviously, this would be a harem, vanilla, semi-incest story with one or two fetishes. The adoptive daughters would have sex with their father both individually and as a group.
I went through like half a sketch book struggling to draw this and then I just decided to give up. So here I am, asking if anyone would like to tackle my vision and bring it to life.
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I'm back from the dead. I drew some pornz, though I feel like I'm not good at squeezing things. I can't draw hands squeezing the booty all too well, nor can I draw a nice tender vajayjay clamping down on a weenie effectively, aside from the half assed cross section in the larger image. I also recognize that I could have worked on the male more.
Sorry if it was inconvenient for me to not split that into three images. By all means, give me protips. I'm not sure how decent my shading was.
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Sorry if it was inconvenient for me to not split that into three images. By all means, give me protips. I'm not sure how decent my shading was.
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Chat wrote...
I'm back from the dead. I drew some pornz, though I feel like I'm not good at squeezing things. I can't draw hands squeezing the booty all too well, nor can I draw a nice tender vajayjay clamping down on a weenie effectively, aside from the half assed cross section in the larger image. I also recognize that I could have worked on the male more.Spoiler:
Sorry if it was inconvenient for me to not split that into three images. By all means, give me protips. I'm not sure how decent my shading was.
OH NICE !
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Hi. I drew more. Here's a compilation of the two new images plus the previous ones, rotated properly with a little added contrast:
I briefly used a page from a ShindoL book as reference for the booty in that last panel. I'm still concerned with my butt squeezing skills. Hoping to make time to draw an image between the final and second-to-last one with her head against the bed. If anyone wants to give me advice, that'd be fantastic, particularly in cleaning/squeezing/shading/anything.
Edit; it seems to have been made smaller after being uploaded to tinypic. You can see it much better if you right click and press "view full image," but its still smaller than the previous one. Might fix later.
Spoiler:
I briefly used a page from a ShindoL book as reference for the booty in that last panel. I'm still concerned with my butt squeezing skills. Hoping to make time to draw an image between the final and second-to-last one with her head against the bed. If anyone wants to give me advice, that'd be fantastic, particularly in cleaning/squeezing/shading/anything.
Edit; it seems to have been made smaller after being uploaded to tinypic. You can see it much better if you right click and press "view full image," but its still smaller than the previous one. Might fix later.
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xhimitsu wrote...
do you have any tips for drawing poses?Poses is kinda vague. That could mean details, shading, etc. I'm assuming you mean perspective tips, as that's more important in poses/angles etc, and what I find myself to be good at as opposed to... everything else.
First you need to understand the principles of my dick in a box. This is a mathematical representation of my dick in a box, made in microsoft paint;

You have X-Ray vision; lighter colored lines are being viewed through a face.
Anyhow, the first thing you should notice is that all of the marked red edges and red dicks in and out of the box are parallel in 3D space ("real life"), but not parallel in 2D space (the grid). Most people use point-perspective drawings to explain this, but I don't really think too many people draw every picture they make with point perspective. The faster way to think of it is to look at the dicks angle relative to zero on the 2D grid.
Any red dick between two marked red edges will have a 2D space angle between those two edges 2D space angles.
Therefore, if I were to draw a box with the same orientation within the initial box, each of the 2D angles on the new box would approach the 2D angle of the opposite line. In other words, they all become more similar, thus decreasing the sense of perspective. On the flip side, if I drew a big box around my current box, it'd look like it has more perspective.
You can try this out by drawing more dicks and making them into boxes relative to other box. Your each dick in your initial box should also be constrained based off of the 2D angles of the other dicks in your box.
This is effectively "things farther away look smaller" translated into 2D reasoning combine with proportional logic.
So, hopefully, now you can draw boxes that are all aligned to other boxes. After understanding placing boxes, you'll want to know how to rotate them.

Here I've rotated the box on the red dick about 45 degrees clockwise. I did this by combining the first principle I wrote down with the next principle I want to list:
If you rotate an edge around a dick is it parallel to in 3D space, it will remain parallel to it in 3D space.
In other words, by rotating on the red dick in the box, the boxes edges marked with red lines are only moved around, not actually rotated. However, they are still changed in 2D space by using the first principle.
You can continue to rotate a box by drawing more dicks, however the dicks should be 3D parallel to some lines. Stuffing a dick in the box at an odd angle is equivalent to stuffing a dick up your nose; it hurts your brain. If you need to bend it in an odd way, twist it on one parallel, then twist it on one of the other parallels.
This is effectively how I line things up on mechs to make pieces look connected, just extrude one of the flat faces of a box you have, then rotate it on a line which pierces the face at a perpendicular angle in 3D space.
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Chat wrote...
xhimitsu wrote...
do you have any tips for drawing poses?Poses is kinda vague. That could mean details, shading, etc. I'm assuming you mean perspective tips, as that's more important in poses/angles etc, and what I find myself to be good at as opposed to... everything else.
First you need to understand the principles of my dick in a box. This is a mathematical representation of my dick in a box, made in microsoft paint;

You have X-Ray vision; lighter colored lines are being viewed through a face.
Anyhow, the first thing you should notice is that all of the marked red edges and red dicks in and out of the box are parallel in 3D space ("real life"), but not parallel in 2D space (the grid). Most people use point-perspective drawings to explain this, but I don't really think too many people draw every picture they make with point perspective. The faster way to think of it is to look at the dicks angle relative to zero on the 2D grid.
Any red dick between two marked red edges will have a 2D space angle between those two edges 2D space angles.
Therefore, if I were to draw a box with the same orientation within the initial box, each of the 2D angles on the new box would approach the 2D angle of the opposite line. In other words, they all become more similar, thus decreasing the sense of perspective. On the flip side, if I drew a big box around my current box, it'd look like it has more perspective.
You can try this out by drawing more dicks and making them into boxes relative to other box. Your each dick in your initial box should also be constrained based off of the 2D angles of the other dicks in your box.
This is effectively "things farther away look smaller" translated into 2D reasoning combine with proportional logic.
So, hopefully, now you can draw boxes that are all aligned to other boxes. After understanding placing boxes, you'll want to know how to rotate them.

Here I've rotated the box on the red dick about 45 degrees clockwise. I did this by combining the first principle I wrote down with the next principle I want to list:
If you rotate an edge around a dick is it parallel to in 3D space, it will remain parallel to it in 3D space.
In other words, by rotating on the red dick in the box, the boxes edges marked with red lines are only moved around, not actually rotated. However, they are still changed in 2D space by using the first principle.
You can continue to rotate a box by drawing more dicks, however the dicks should be 3D parallel to some lines. Stuffing a dick in the box at an odd angle is equivalent to stuffing a dick up your nose; it hurts your brain. If you need to bend it in an odd way, twist it on one parallel, then twist it on one of the other parallels.
This is effectively how I line things up on mechs to make pieces look connected, just extrude one of the flat faces of a box you have, then rotate it on a line which pierces the face at a perpendicular angle in 3D space.
Thank you for writing such a detailed description for me but to be honest I think it made me more confused than helped ^^;
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It's like ahh...
See the two red lines in pic 1? The one higher up on the page needs to have a flatter slope relative to the page, even though they're parallel when you think in 3D.
You can use that to get the relative slope of each line you need to draw to make a box.
The other thing is rotating. If I rotate on axis A, all lines on the box parallel to A keeper pointing the same direction in terms of 3D, though you still need to do the first part to create perspective.
Edit:
posted this from my phone the first time, some extra punctuation got thrown in.
See the two red lines in pic 1? The one higher up on the page needs to have a flatter slope relative to the page, even though they're parallel when you think in 3D.
You can use that to get the relative slope of each line you need to draw to make a box.
The other thing is rotating. If I rotate on axis A, all lines on the box parallel to A keeper pointing the same direction in terms of 3D, though you still need to do the first part to create perspective.
Edit:
posted this from my phone the first time, some extra punctuation got thrown in.
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SneeakyAsian
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FL1P7UN4 wrote...
is this still active? can i get opinions on a thing??[color=#993300]The thread is very dead sir, however, if you're interested in feedback, I'd love to recommend you to the Art threads themselves, you'll have much more luck there
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SneeakyAsian wrote...
FL1P7UN4 wrote...
is this still active? can i get opinions on a thing??[color=#993300]The thread is very dead sir, however, if you're interested in feedback, I'd love to recommend you to the Art threads themselves, you'll have much more luck there
ok pls do unless nvm i find my own way there i believe thats what you intended
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SneeakyAsian
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FL1P7UN4 wrote...
SneeakyAsian wrote...
FL1P7UN4 wrote...
is this still active? can i get opinions on a thing??[color=#993300]The thread is very dead sir, however, if you're interested in feedback, I'd love to recommend you to the Art threads themselves, you'll have much more luck there
ok pls do unless nvm i find my own way there i believe thats what you intended
https://www.fakku.net/forums/art-and-digital-graphics
Though I must say, it's quite intriguing that you chose, of all threads, to revive one of the threads from so long ago, especially for your purposes. Normally, a new user wouldn't pick such a thing....just some thoughts...
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Any good drawing softwares and flash animation softwares?
I'm getting tired of being judged because all I have is MS paint....
I'm getting tired of being judged because all I have is MS paint....
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Hatsuname wrote...
Any good drawing softwares and flash animation softwares?I'm getting tired of being judged because all I have is MS paint....
[color=#006FFF]Assuming my input matters, I reccomend Paint Tool SAI. Simple yet lots of potential, with a ton of great tumblr artists, professional or otherwise, doing some amazing things with it.
This is for drawing though; wouldn't know about flash.
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SneeakyAsian
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xhimitsu wrote...
i should Update the art I have on the frontpage urgh...
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SneeakyAsian wrote...
xhimitsu wrote...
i should Update the art I have on the frontpage urgh...I know I know but Shino is back now so yeah, maybe the thread will be back! o0o Also No I'm pretty sure Shino was serious when he made the thread even though he is a troll sometimes!
Also YES YOU SHOULD! stop procrastinating!

