The New Mod Debate: 2013

Gandolf wanted me to tell everyone that, if he was made mod, he would make stealing other users avatars and signatures a bannable offence.

Question 6: What rules(if any) must be enforced in IB?

Question #6: The obvious answer would have to be "Do NOT post any Gore/Mutilation or objectional images/videos on ANY board" and "Do NOT link to malevolent/dangerous sites." IB is a section where most rules are ignored, but I still believe users shouldn't take this freedom too lightly.

I find that in this case, your joke was particularly simple, and though that is not necessarily a bad thing, you must realize it gets old very quickly.

6. Ah, now we are getting into the nitty-gritty. I understand that first and foremost we must avoid breaking any federal laws to allow for the continued existence of Fakku. Secondly, I understand Jacob, our well-intentioned creator, has his own vision of Fakku, and regardless of whether or not I entirely agree with it, I will do my utmost to protect it. Thirdly, we must all understand that not everyone and everything can be accommodated, and that Fakku has its own identity that one must truly understand before they can try to change it. Fourthly, any perceivable threat of bodily harm or destruction or promise of violence must be investigated and hopefully resolved through peaceful means.

True, but, more fun to make them, hah

Question 6: What rules(if any) must be enforced in IB?
Most, but at a more relaxed pace, as is normal. Bar the usual rules of avoiding bans, and the more serious rules.

My client would like to apologize for his absence thus far in the debate. He was scheduled for routine maintenance and it turned into some emergency repairs. 'Fridge is functioning properly now and his new parts have a ten-year warranty.

As for the questions posed thus far, my client has released the following statements.

The rules enforced upon ib is fine as they are. Ie no spam and posting of prohibited content

Maintaining a baseline of standards is difficult enough in itself, as is evident of the deteriorating status of our once premium shit. Progress for progress' sake is not necessarily a good thing. While not opposed to new blood, it is important that they understand the way things work around here- and the best way to learn is by experience; throw 'em to the lions- if they live, they stay. If we're too rough for 'em, they belong elsewhere.

And who cares for scoring brownie points? A leaders' job is not to suck as many cocks as possible in order to curry favour. They lead by example, and do what needs to be done.

And if I am forgettable- all the better. I prefer working in the background. I don't need people breathing down my neck. Let my work speak for itself. I don't need that PR pizzazz and showboating. Save my efforts for important shit.


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Question 5: How important do you believe the authority of a mod should be?

Why bother to create positions of authority if they had no power? People are assigned as moderators because people trust them to do their jobs. This applies to any task or occupation; you get asked to do it because people trust you to do it.

The creator of this site made them mods. He trusted them to carry out his law because he knows he can't possibly do it alone. They tell you your actions are unacceptable, you'd best be paying attention.

Question 6: What rules(if any) must be enforced in IB?

-Banned material shouldn't be posted here. Some of it is of Jacob's choosing, and others are from the site's sponsors. If Jake loses that backing, the site gets iced.

-Harassing others on personal issues. Anonymous haranguing anonymous over anonymous problems is one thing- but making surgical strikes upon deeply personal matters (if someone is foolish enough to tell them) can lead to rather drastic results. This may run counter to my 'Tough Skin' policy, but I'm not a fan of the idea of some emo fagbitch committing suicide because people called him names. Although I guess there is some grim, Darwinian beauty to it.

So let's say not forbidden, but discouraged and generally frowned upon.

-Spam. Annoying as fuck. If it's a bot, no biggie. Just block it. But if it's a sentient human being who cannot think of better ways to use their God-given brain, they can just die and stop breathing our air and using up our space.

-No stalking. This isn't a dating site, nor a rape enabler.

Some people write nonsensical bullshit they think is good and then hide that the guise that there's a secret meaning behind it. Some people try to post funny material only to have others reply with a laugh out of pity. Some people think they can troll other users just because they've been here for some amount of time but end up failing miserably. Most of the trolling and funny content is extremely sub-par. I.B. is a place where users think they're cool and think acting like an asshole means they're cool but more often than not just end up making complete fools of themselves. There's also a lot of personal blogs.

Essentially Incoherent Babbling is a forum full of try-hards, attention whores and wannabes.



The standard responsibilities, upholding the rules and moving threads to the appropriate forums, providing advice to the administrator of the site when he makes changes or implements new features or upon deciding the fate of a user. I.B. is a bit different though, I imagine moderating it's users would be something like dealing with the mentally retarded. For special people you need special rules and a bit more flexibility with the existing ones. A group of unruly drunkards isn't going to be easily overcome by a man of etiquette and kindness.



I believe new users should be given respect until they do something to prove themselves not worthy of it. Instantly trying to go after them and make them rage is likely to cause drama, but drama helps a community grow, makes things interesting and builds personality. I do not believe it is a moderator's job to help new users transition smoothly into I.B and that they should let things work themselves out.



Somewhat important, it's good to let users freely exchange ideas and opinions, but only to a certain extent. Certain rules need to be followed and you can't let people consistently step out of line or risk losing their respect and your authority over them.



Somewhat important, on a small message board it isn't such a big deal, on larger ones it's required to keep people in line and to keep things organized. They should be able to decide whether or not posts or topics are of an acceptable quality to be posted in their respective sections, if they aren't, they should have the ability to lock or delete threads. They should have the ability to lock or delete threads if things get too out of hand and to prevent or control shit storms. I.B. & CTFG again, require a bit more flexibility than most other forums.

Question 7: What do you believe is the most important aspect of a good forum? and how can you as a moderator make Fakku better?

Q7

The most important aspect of a good forum, to 'Fridge, are the users. In his steely eyes it doesn't matter how nice a forum is made if there isn't anybody to use it. Think of a really high-end sports car, but nobody ever takes it out and it never leaves the driveway. I think we can all agree that it's nice to look at but isn't doing anything.

'Fridge could make the forums better simply by being around and by being a positive influence on the users he interacts with. He wouldn't try to be everybody's friend, but he would have a usually positive attitude whilst carrying out his mod-ly duties.

Q7 A variety of people. Even those that people deem as annoying as they add some spice.
As to making the forum better that lies in the users of the forum better. My part is making sure "fun" doesn't get out of hand

It's nice to see you guy are rebutting; my work here is done.

Seems the debate is coming to an end with almost no replies to the last question.

7. The most important aspect of any good forum is its' users. As a moderator, to make Fakku an even better place, I would use my given privileges to help the users however possible.

-Late reply-
Question #7: Pretty much what everybody is circling around, the most important aspect of a good forum would be its users. As a moderator it is my job to make sure these users are following the rules and not threatening or sexually harassing other users with posts to make sure we can have a good clean environment. The only thing I can do to make Fakku a better place is to interact with users regardless of how much I hate them.

1. Chat forum for a bunch of dudes to post in. Place that can't be left alone because people who are left to their own devices tend to fuck shit up.

2. A High School teacher/janitor: Clean up the shit all these terd nuggets make. However also take revenge in some ways to keep them in line.

3. Hazing is a good way to weed out the shit fucks. However they still need some wiggle room so they can make mistakes... about 2 weeks until other users can ass fuck them.

4. Anything can be said. However you still have to accept the consequences for it.

5. Whats wrong with it now?

Could have sworn I made a reply to this thread, but it seems to have vanished.

You dropped out, and non candidates don't get to be part of the debate.

Even to answer a simple hypothetical?