Why public schools suck
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All knowledge is valuable, the more you're equipped with the better you will be able to succeed in the world because you can respond correctly to a wider variety and amount of situations. Primary and secondary education aren't there to teach you how to pass tests, the underlying purpose is to teach you how and in what ways you can efficiently gain knowledge that will help you understand and overcome the problems you face in life. In essence, they are there to teach you how to learn and give you basic knowledge of science; post-secondary education is there to give you a database of knowledge that you can use as a resource for completing specific tasks so you actually have abilities worth contracting out to employers.
What people fail to realize is that in the world of business, no one is an employee. Every single person is a contractor and their worth, their value as a contractor, is measured by the amount of knowledge and experience they have. The more knowledge you have the greater the potential for profit in your life because you can charge more for your services and undertake a wider variety of opportunities. Primary and Secondary education provide you an extremely low-cost method of obtaining experience, knowledge and even better, efficient methods through which to obtain knowledge and experience yourself. They are essential building blocks for success in any person's life and I greatly pity those who do not take them seriously if they have the chance to go through them.
Some people go to school just to past tests, they cram at the last minute and manage to breeze by but they never really end up retaining the knowledge they were supposed to, simply because they didn't pay attention. Later on the detriment of their actions show, they end up with low-paying jobs and without the skills or reason to overcome some of life's most basic issues. It's the people that actually pay attention, that do their research and study the learning methods that are taught to them who are more likely to end up making more money and living a happier life in general because they don't have trouble coping with the problems life throws at them.
Whether you chose to educate yourself through public schools or through self study (like I have) is entirely up to you. While you're forced to go to school, it doesn't mean you can't branch out and try to study subjects you're passionate about yourself. We live in the day and age of the internet after all.
Personally I think that while the public education system could use some revision it's still fucking great compared to no public education system. And it really only sucks if you don't take it seriously.
On that note, major universities are beginning to publish their course materials online for the world to access for free. MIT is literally throwing all of their course material out there for no cost.
http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm
Yale is offering free introductory course materials as well.
http://oyc.yale.edu/
What people fail to realize is that in the world of business, no one is an employee. Every single person is a contractor and their worth, their value as a contractor, is measured by the amount of knowledge and experience they have. The more knowledge you have the greater the potential for profit in your life because you can charge more for your services and undertake a wider variety of opportunities. Primary and Secondary education provide you an extremely low-cost method of obtaining experience, knowledge and even better, efficient methods through which to obtain knowledge and experience yourself. They are essential building blocks for success in any person's life and I greatly pity those who do not take them seriously if they have the chance to go through them.
Some people go to school just to past tests, they cram at the last minute and manage to breeze by but they never really end up retaining the knowledge they were supposed to, simply because they didn't pay attention. Later on the detriment of their actions show, they end up with low-paying jobs and without the skills or reason to overcome some of life's most basic issues. It's the people that actually pay attention, that do their research and study the learning methods that are taught to them who are more likely to end up making more money and living a happier life in general because they don't have trouble coping with the problems life throws at them.
Whether you chose to educate yourself through public schools or through self study (like I have) is entirely up to you. While you're forced to go to school, it doesn't mean you can't branch out and try to study subjects you're passionate about yourself. We live in the day and age of the internet after all.
Personally I think that while the public education system could use some revision it's still fucking great compared to no public education system. And it really only sucks if you don't take it seriously.
On that note, major universities are beginning to publish their course materials online for the world to access for free. MIT is literally throwing all of their course material out there for no cost.
http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm
Yale is offering free introductory course materials as well.
http://oyc.yale.edu/
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Yea, but when you ask kids what they wanna be they say "I don't know". So you have to cover subjects to find out what your into.
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Some years ago i was on a half-good school(small city, it was the best of the 3 there...), on what's equivalent to high school on USA. The school was controlled by a small mafia, friends and family thing, and the principal put a guy who was 50yo, worked cleaning sewers as our psychs teacher.
Long history short, except if you studied psychs externally to compensate, you were fucked for university entry exams. He 'taught' there for 3 years, almost every student hated it, but he had protection from the mafia. 3rd world country yo.
Long history short, except if you studied psychs externally to compensate, you were fucked for university entry exams. He 'taught' there for 3 years, almost every student hated it, but he had protection from the mafia. 3rd world country yo.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
agiri_goshiki wrote...
The schools are too overpopulated. One teacher is expected to supervise up to like 30 students. Critical thinking isn't taught. Instead of having a diverse range of ways of teaching we instead just teach students how to pass tests. They don't use technology in a world where technology already is prominent. The teachers and faculty are retarded cunts. They tell you not to be ''inappropriate'' and basically strip you of your individuality and turn you into a drone. Most of the students are ignorant. Almost nothing you learn matters and you will probably never use it once you graduate. And it's so motherfucking boring.First point is pretty right in some cases, at times some teachers are pretty overburdened. It's not always as a huge issue depending on school funding(like providing tutors or homework help centers) and individual help and care at home(probably the bigger issue if you ask me)
Other than that your post seems full of assumptions and generalizations.
You seem to have a case of "I'm a special snowflake". Obviously there are problems with the public school system, but calling teachers cunts or making outrageous claims just make you seem like a a faggot.
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gitaaa wrote...
That's nothing compared to third world "schools". Teacher-Student ratios go up to 1 : 80.Not to mention that some schools have classrooms that holds 2 different classes simultaneously.
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Peltor wrote...
gitaaa wrote...
That's nothing compared to third world "schools". Teacher-Student ratios go up to 1 : 80.Not to mention that some schools have classrooms that holds 2 different classes simultaneously.
Yeah, and most third world schools (in Africa at least) are taught by missionaries, teaching them pseudo-science and pseudo-history.
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cruz737 wrote...
agiri_goshiki wrote...
The schools are too overpopulated. One teacher is expected to supervise up to like 30 students. Critical thinking isn't taught. Instead of having a diverse range of ways of teaching we instead just teach students how to pass tests. They don't use technology in a world where technology already is prominent. The teachers and faculty are retarded cunts. They tell you not to be ''inappropriate'' and basically strip you of your individuality and turn you into a drone. Most of the students are ignorant. Almost nothing you learn matters and you will probably never use it once you graduate. And it's so motherfucking boring.First point is pretty right in some cases, at times some teachers are pretty overburdened. It's not always as a huge issue depending on school funding(like providing tutors or homework help centers) and individual help and care at home(probably the bigger issue if you ask me)
Other than that your post seems full of assumptions and generalizations.
You seem to have a case of "I'm a special snowflake". Obviously there are problems with the public school system, but calling teachers cunts or making outrageous claims just make you seem like a a faggot.
I am well aware that there are some good schools out there. And while there are some overall problems with America's system, this list obviously doesn't pertain to all schools. Also, I did address that the teachers are overburdened ''One teacher is expected to supervise up to like 30 students.'' and honestly I don't blame some of them for being cunts. It's a miserable job teaching idiotic ignorant kids. And I don't think any of these claims are outrageous. I'll admit that some of them are generalizations, I am talking about the problems with the majority of schools and a few of them are overall. But I know that not every school is boring, not every teacher is a retarded douche, etc etc. That goes without saying.
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I pretty much am a faggot btw.
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SirLongShaft3 wrote...
Yea, but when you ask kids what they wanna be they say "I don't know". So you have to cover subjects to find out what your into.That's definitely true. Most students won't grow up to be scientists but It's still important for them to know how the world works. It's important to teach many topics and subjects, and who knows they might discover that science is really interesting and they end up becoming one. So you're right. That goes especially for electives like art, music, drama, stuff like that.
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Pyre wrote...
All knowledge is valuable, the more you're equipped with the better you will be able to succeed in the world because you can respond correctly to a wider variety and amount of situations. Primary and secondary education aren't there to teach you how to pass tests, the underlying purpose is to teach you how and in what ways you can efficiently gain knowledge that will help you understand and overcome the problems you face in life. In essence, they are there to teach you how to learn and give you basic knowledge of science; post-secondary education is there to give you a database of knowledge that you can use as a resource for completing specific tasks so you actually have abilities worth contracting out to employers.What people fail to realize is that in the world of business, no one is an employee. Every single person is a contractor and their worth, their value as a contractor, is measured by the amount of knowledge and experience they have. The more knowledge you have the greater the potential for profit in your life because you can charge more for your services and undertake a wider variety of opportunities. Primary and Secondary education provide you an extremely low-cost method of obtaining experience, knowledge and even better, efficient methods through which to obtain knowledge and experience yourself. They are essential building blocks for success in any person's life and I greatly pity those who do not take them seriously if they have the chance to go through them.
Some people go to school just to past tests, they cram at the last minute and manage to breeze by but they never really end up retaining the knowledge they were supposed to, simply because they didn't pay attention. Later on the detriment of their actions show, they end up with low-paying jobs and without the skills or reason to overcome some of life's most basic issues. It's the people that actually pay attention, that do their research and study the learning methods that are taught to them who are more likely to end up making more money and living a happier life in general because they don't have trouble coping with the problems life throws at them.
Whether you chose to educate yourself through public schools or through self study (like I have) is entirely up to you. While you're forced to go to school, it doesn't mean you can't branch out and try to study subjects you're passionate about yourself. We live in the day and age of the internet after all.
Personally I think that while the public education system could use some revision it's still fucking great compared to no public education system. And it really only sucks if you don't take it seriously.
On that note, major universities are beginning to publish their course materials online for the world to access for free. MIT is literally throwing all of their course material out there for no cost.
http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm
Yale is offering free introductory course materials as well.
http://oyc.yale.edu/
You're right, I agree. There are flaws with tests, the main one being it doesn't actually gauge your knowledge on anything, rather, somebody who doesn't have a clue what the answer is can still get a passing grade because they can remember some terms. You're right when you say that it's a choice whether or not you actually learn something. To actually comprehend something and formulate an answer or response based on something you actually know and understand is different. You may get a higher grade than the other kid but it's still a big flaw. It really depends on the teachers too, some will say ''Here is 5 facts about (insert topic or subject here) memorize them because they will be on a test.'' they just want you to regurgitate the information they give to you. The best teachers are the ones who have you look things up, the ones who explain everything, the ones that help you understand the facts through experience and not just remembering them. So really at the end of the day you just have to be lucky to have a good teacher, and a lot of it is also based on the student's choice of whether or not they want to just pass or actually learn.
I also agree that you should take all the knowledge you can get. That's obvious. But some students aren't willing to work for it, or it's not available in the class rooms and they might instead have to seek it out on their own (like you said the internet).
Another problem that arises that schools and employers put a lot of emphasis on getting a degree. All I ever hear about is ''Make sure you get that diploma!'' and it sucks because a diploma is really a big way to show people that you were at least smart enough to pass something, but there are so many discrepancies in everything that a diploma doesn't mean much. If some dumbass who just memorizes everything and doesn't retain anything, and somebody who is much smarter and knows much more both have the same diploma or degree, they are treated fundamentally the same if they go in front of an employer. Somebody who is smarter or a more efficient worker may move through the ranks faster, but there's really no way to show your intelligence or anything and there's nothing to distinguish you from the dumbass. It's hard for me to articulate this thought exactly but I'm basically saying that there's nothing that shows that you weren't just the person who memorized everything. You could just learn things just for your own sake I do it all the time, but it really doesn't matter to the employer because there's nothing to show for it. I know a lot of really intelligent high school drop outs and a lot stupid college graduates.
So I find a lot of flaws with tests and diplomas, I can't offer any solutions but they're flaws nonetheless.
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I've been going to public schools my whole life, and I will say that they are terrible, but I never really had problems, because I always did well in school and ended up in honors classes, which are much less crowded, plus they keep all of the shit-stains out of the classes.
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any kind of public service is guaranteed to be mediocre at best
why spend more money on better education when we can spend it on shooting people?
why spend more money on better education when we can spend it on shooting people?
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
Welcome to school in general.
If you're going to complain, you're too young for this site.
Seriously. People whinge till they realise how handy some of the things you learn are. I have to say, I learned more in a public school than I ever did in private school. Actually figured out linear, which sucks fucking dick. Have had a few times where I've needed 3d trig, and basically fucked it off. Although, maths is an amazing thing to have on your side, english is as well. Most of the shit is.
Technology is a hard thing to teach with, because it's easy to not do work/ hard to track the students. It's very easy to get distracted with technology. I know I did computing, and all we did in that class was play games.
But otherwise, school was actually fairly fun. Smashed class, helped some people out. I wouldn't call myself smart, but I fucking aced maths, managed to be one 'b' off an 'ha' which is a high achievement (second highest) despite doing no homework, and helping a friend out during tests. Rolled that fucker. And it amazes me how many people at work can't use their head to count change. Somebody gives me money, whilst they are taking an order, and I tell them the change I need, ezpz. They always comment on it :/
Conclusion; niggah, you underage. And that ain't just limited to public schools, das all schools dawwwg
If you're going to complain, you're too young for this site.
Seriously. People whinge till they realise how handy some of the things you learn are. I have to say, I learned more in a public school than I ever did in private school. Actually figured out linear, which sucks fucking dick. Have had a few times where I've needed 3d trig, and basically fucked it off. Although, maths is an amazing thing to have on your side, english is as well. Most of the shit is.
Technology is a hard thing to teach with, because it's easy to not do work/ hard to track the students. It's very easy to get distracted with technology. I know I did computing, and all we did in that class was play games.
But otherwise, school was actually fairly fun. Smashed class, helped some people out. I wouldn't call myself smart, but I fucking aced maths, managed to be one 'b' off an 'ha' which is a high achievement (second highest) despite doing no homework, and helping a friend out during tests. Rolled that fucker. And it amazes me how many people at work can't use their head to count change. Somebody gives me money, whilst they are taking an order, and I tell them the change I need, ezpz. They always comment on it :/
Conclusion; niggah, you underage. And that ain't just limited to public schools, das all schools dawwwg
