12-Year-Old Boy Faces Life Sentence for Murder
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US courts have ruled that a boy accused of murdering his father’s pregnant girlfriend, whose brains were blown out with a shotgun the boy received as a Christmas present, must stand trial as an adult despite only being 11 when the crime was committed.
Prosecutors intend to charge him with first degree murder, carrying a possible life sentence without possibility of parole.
The 11-year-old boy lived on a Pennsylvania farm with his father, his father’s 26-year-old girlfriend and her children.
He is alleged to have become jealous of the attention the unborn child was likely to receive, having already been told to move out of his room to accommodate the baby.
Prosecutors allege he then decided to kill the mother, who was shot in the back of the head as she slept, with his shotgun.
He had apparently been given the “designed for children” 20-gauge shotgun as a Christmas present.
Both mother and the 8-month-old foetus expired as a result of the wound. The woman’s body was later discovered by her 4-year-old daughter, who alerted nearby adults.

The boy is said to have hid the gun under a blanket to avoid being spotted by one of the victim’s daughters prior to the shooting, and to have later thrown the spent casing from the shot into a ditch on his way to school.
Prosecutors are adamant the boy, now 12, bears criminal responsibility for the crime as grave as any adult:
He faces charges of one count of first degree murder and another of the “homicide” of an unborn child, carrying a possible life sentence, both of which he denies. He escapes the death penalty, which the state limits to those over 14.
A prosecution psychiatrist interrogating the child found he “minimised” the allegations against him, and the judge accepted these arguments in ruling that he would not be eligible for a juvenile trial as he was insufficiently remorseful for the crimes he is accused of (but denies committing).
The judge remarked that a refusal to admit the (unproven) allegations means the boy is unlikely to be fit for rehabilitation:
Pennsylvania law allows anyone over 10 charged with murder to be tried as an adult, though the boy’s legal defence argues that a child so young could not possibly be tried as such, and say they will appeal the ruling.
Lawyers also point out that denying him a juvenile trial because he refuses to admit to his crimes fully is likely to be a violation of his constitutional rights.
The mother of the murdered woman is vengefully dismissive about the legal fracas surrounding the case:
The case raises issues wider than just the age of criminal responsibility, which varies wildly in the developed world and even between states – an 11-year-old boy is apparently fully responsible for his actions should he kill someone, but on the other hand unable to consent to sex or much else.
Prosecutors intend to charge him with first degree murder, carrying a possible life sentence without possibility of parole.
The 11-year-old boy lived on a Pennsylvania farm with his father, his father’s 26-year-old girlfriend and her children.
He is alleged to have become jealous of the attention the unborn child was likely to receive, having already been told to move out of his room to accommodate the baby.
Prosecutors allege he then decided to kill the mother, who was shot in the back of the head as she slept, with his shotgun.
He had apparently been given the “designed for children” 20-gauge shotgun as a Christmas present.
Both mother and the 8-month-old foetus expired as a result of the wound. The woman’s body was later discovered by her 4-year-old daughter, who alerted nearby adults.

The boy is said to have hid the gun under a blanket to avoid being spotted by one of the victim’s daughters prior to the shooting, and to have later thrown the spent casing from the shot into a ditch on his way to school.
Prosecutors are adamant the boy, now 12, bears criminal responsibility for the crime as grave as any adult:
“This offence was an execution-style killing of a defenceless pregnant young mother. A more horrific crime is difficult to imagine.”
He faces charges of one count of first degree murder and another of the “homicide” of an unborn child, carrying a possible life sentence, both of which he denies. He escapes the death penalty, which the state limits to those over 14.
A prosecution psychiatrist interrogating the child found he “minimised” the allegations against him, and the judge accepted these arguments in ruling that he would not be eligible for a juvenile trial as he was insufficiently remorseful for the crimes he is accused of (but denies committing).
The judge remarked that a refusal to admit the (unproven) allegations means the boy is unlikely to be fit for rehabilitation:
“Rehabilitation within the confines of the juvenile court jurisdiction [is] likely to be unsuccessful”
Pennsylvania law allows anyone over 10 charged with murder to be tried as an adult, though the boy’s legal defence argues that a child so young could not possibly be tried as such, and say they will appeal the ruling.
Lawyers also point out that denying him a juvenile trial because he refuses to admit to his crimes fully is likely to be a violation of his constitutional rights.
The mother of the murdered woman is vengefully dismissive about the legal fracas surrounding the case:
“There was no reason for uncertainty in our eyes. We’re pleased.”
The case raises issues wider than just the age of criminal responsibility, which varies wildly in the developed world and even between states – an 11-year-old boy is apparently fully responsible for his actions should he kill someone, but on the other hand unable to consent to sex or much else.
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Waar wrote...
(probably)http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/29/boy.homicide/index.html?hpt=T2
Meh, it's fucked.
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a shotgun the boy received as a Christmas present
“designed for children” 20-gauge shotgun
Haha. You yankee doodles never cease to crack me up.
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THE ECONOMY wrote...
a shotgun the boy received as a Christmas present
“designed for children” 20-gauge shotgun
Haha. You yankee doodles never cease to crack me up.
Alrighty. First off, 'designed for youth' merely means a shorter LOP and a lighter weight, along with 20ga being a lower power than the iconic 12ga. The same things you'd find on a female-aimed gun or guns made for smaller-framed people.
The technical definition out of the way, let me say this: Allowing a minor to handle and use a firearm is perfectly safe under most circumstances. Thousands upon thousands of minors do it every year. Granted, IMO, 11 is too young to be allowed independent custody of a firearm (like unrestricted internet access) and he should not have been allowed access to ammunition without his father's supervision. I think there were two causes to this, the irresponsibility of the parent, and the Child being a psychopath. The former could have been prevented, the latter not, and given how he killed his stepmother, I don't think [the lack of] access to a firearm would have prevented him attempting seriously to kill her.
And I take offense to the 'Yankee Doodles' remark. The vast, vast majority of American gun owners are much more responsible than this father was (logically, you wouldn't hear about a safe firearms outing in the news, just the tragic deaths/accidents). And labeling 80+ million Americans as irresponsible hillbillies is similar to calling all blacks stupid, it's an erroneous blanket insult and undeserved.
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sv51macross wrote...
And I take offense to the 'Yankee Doodles' remark. And labeling 80+ million Americans as irresponsible hillbillies is an erroneous blanket insult and undeserved.I never intended to make the other 220 million feel left out.
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GracefulDiscension. wrote...
Kona-chan wrote...
Amazing, a non-troll thread made by Harmonian...^I fukken lol'd.
I tripled loled
OT: So I been trying to come up with words to express what went through my mind when I read this. So that to me felt like he knew what he was doing and still did it. In this situation I strongly believe this kid should take all the damn responsibility that comes with killing a human life. He obviously has no respect for others and is pretty much spoiled... I mean come on... shooting the mother just because she didn't pay enough attention to him..........
That JUST PLAIN BS!
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
Harmonian wrote...
The case raises issues wider than just the age of criminal responsibility, which varies wildly in the developed world and even between states – an 11-year-old boy is apparently fully responsible for his actions should he kill someone, but on the other hand unable to consent to sex or much else.This. I don't care which way they decide, but they better don't give shit like "murder and sex are different! DX" or "this kid is special! >_<" kind of excuse. One way or the other.
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This kid knew exactly what he was doing and as such should be prosicuted to the full extent of the law.
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Nashrakh
Little White Butterflies Staff
THE ECONOMY wrote...
Haha. You yankee doodles never cease to crack me up.
I never understood the gun hype either. Give everybody guns so they can protect themselves, I wonder how we survived without them all the time.
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ok ok people may say oh he just killed her becuz of lack of attention nd what the hell was the father thinking to let him use a ladies firearm cuz thats basically wat it was. Well kids these days r getting pretty smart like 5 years olds kno how to commit suicide nd mind u kids have commited suicide before but thats besides the point nd i personally think he should be convicted for a dumbass crime cuz killin for lack of atteton i get that part but when the person was pregnant now thats just sick. i dont think he should get life only becuz hes not 13 hmph he should just get 15 years minimum
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THE ECONOMY wrote...
I never intended to make the other 220 million feel left out.i c wut u did thar. Pretty clever.
Anyway, in the words of Rbz "It's fucked". The whole situation is pretty twisted. I can't come up with a single reason (what-so-ever) as to why anyone, especially a twelve year old, would intentionally kill their parents. Not a justifiable reason anyway.
Despite my strong feelings against his actions, I don't think he should be in jail for life (though I honestly would not mind). He is pretty young and probably didn't understand the impact of what he did, so he should receive some leniency. But at the same time, he deserves to be punished in one way or another.
No matter what your age or reason(s), taking life can never be justifiable (not in my eyes anyway).
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HentaiElder wrote...
THE ECONOMY wrote...
I never intended to make the other 220 million feel left out.i c wut u did thar. Pretty clever.
Anyway, in the words of Rbz "It's fucked". The whole situation is pretty twisted. I can't come up with a single reason (what-so-ever) as to why anyone, especially a twelve year old, would intentionally kill their parents. Not a justifiable reason anyway.
Despite my strong feelings against his actions, I don't think he should be in jail for life (though I honestly would not mind). He is pretty young and probably didn't understand the impact of what he did, so he should receive some leniency. But at the same time, he deserves to be punished in one way or another.
No matter what your age or reason(s), taking life can never be justifiable (not in my eyes anyway).
I'm sorry, but how could he not understand the impact of what he did? That makes no sense. He may be young, be there is no doubt that he knows what he was doing. Any twelve year old knows that taking a life is wrong. The question should be is this kid insane or not.
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lollercookiez wrote...
I'm sorry, but how could he not understand the impact of what he did? That makes no sense. He may be young, be there is no doubt that he knows what he was doing. Any twelve year old knows that taking a life is wrong. The question should be is this kid insane or not.
I'm not saying that he didn't know a bullet to the head of his mother would kill her, but I believe it's safe to say that he didn't understand the consequences of his actions. Where his life goes from here, nobody knows for sure. He could be freed some day (off the hook), in prison for the rest of his life (over a crime he committed before the age of eighteen), or more. Really, his future is terribly fucked and it wasn't worth killing his mother. I don't think a twelve year old understands as well as we do the consequences of actions and why it was such a dumb move.
Kids make mistakes and his mind was not fully developed.
As I said before, I don't think it's justifiable at all.
I just don't think he knew what he was getting himself into and how it'd affect him.
Edit:
Oh and obviously he has problems. He killed his mother, ffs.
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Reminds me of the time my best friend tried to stab me in the neck with the friggen huge knife he brought to school one day, just cause I did better than him on a pop quiz.
This was when I was 12 too.
He would've killed me, but he tripped on something and missed my neck. <.<;;
Yeah... we're still friends. o-o
Just shows what kids'll kill for...
This was when I was 12 too.
He would've killed me, but he tripped on something and missed my neck. <.<;;
Yeah... we're still friends. o-o
Just shows what kids'll kill for...
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Makes you wonder why he even has a shotgun, what kind of a family is this? If you raise your child to be such a thing, is it the childs fault to act absed upon how he was raised, a child being dependent on those around him. Isnt this the very reason why they make such a fuzz about children having sex and they dont know what theyre doing.. even if its mere months away form legal age?
Its such a big deal coz its a pregnant woman. What if it was a normal guy. Its a freakin child for gods sake. For him to suffer for the rest of his life because of wrongful upbringing which is his family's fault... I find that unfair.
And his absence for remorse... what kind of a freakin reason is that. its like theyre just fishing for anything to throw at him. if he is disturbed he should be institutionalized and be given a chance to fix his life or stay there if he is insane.
Its such a big deal coz its a pregnant woman. What if it was a normal guy. Its a freakin child for gods sake. For him to suffer for the rest of his life because of wrongful upbringing which is his family's fault... I find that unfair.
And his absence for remorse... what kind of a freakin reason is that. its like theyre just fishing for anything to throw at him. if he is disturbed he should be institutionalized and be given a chance to fix his life or stay there if he is insane.