Association football (soccer)

OH MY GOD!! So wrong, so wrong!! Real Madrid was NOT supposed to win the Champions League, this was supposed to be Atletico Madrids year!

But just goes to show you that the game is never over until the ref whistles, Ramos scoring on the 90+3 minute to make the game 1 - 1, and then on the over time Real Madrid scores 3 more times.

We'll at least we don't have to hear about La Decima anymore. Still, I would have preferred Atletico to win :(

Oh it's a normal thing in life, winner gets it all nowadays. But think about it, they beat Bayern, Dortmund, Juventus, Galatasaray to get there. To say they didn't deserve it after 90minutes of Ronaldo trying to wind Juanfran up, Bale trying to hit it on target, and Varane and Ramos keeping the back clean, Di Maria and Modric putting up a performance of their career, and Marcelo and Carvajal wonderful contributions, is a grave unfair judgement. (Huh @Coconut?) how about Atletico with the lucky goal because of Casillas mistake? Anyway, Hala Madrid!!!

If Casillas made a mistake, how is the goal 'lucky' then?

Ah, just mindless little reasons to why Atletico didn't deserve it. Just like how people are saying Real didn't deserve it because of money, "lucky" Ramos goal (That one didn't involve the opposite goalkeeper handing Real a free goal), "lucky" Bale header,.....

Yeah, shame they won La Décima 7 days later. (Just for a jocular comeback, no mean intent man)

In my oppinion it should be pretty obvies that in these type of situations people obviesly give biased asnwers and oppinions. Yes, my oppinion of Atletico deserving to win more is 100% biased because i like them more than i do Real Madrid, and i did not give any stupid excuses like "lucky" goals by the other side as reasons as to why the other team won. I was simply 'venting' my oppinion about the issue, and i do respect Real Madrid as a football team, it is one the best teams after all in the world, but i personally dislike them.

Who ever wins, deserves to win.

*pat on the back* Well said my man! Now let's play the affiliation game, I'm a speed-whore (Ronaldo, Bale, Walcott, Kyle Walker, Alaba, Real Madrid, last season Bayern, and Dortmund,....), a "plastic fan" as they call it, and a money hoarder (It makes the world spins). What's your game?

I didn't dismiss the league, it was a comeback of a jocular fashion my friend. Your statement of Real losing the league to Atletico didn't serve anything for the fact that they still deserve to win the Champions League (Probably have been for four years now) so I took a jab at a joke. But if you want to be serious, winning by not so much of a margin isn't the most dominant league run either.

I was wondering what everyone's biggest snubs were? I mean who should have been picked for their national team but didn't.

I think 3 names that come to my mind are:
Donovan -USA- how can you not take a guy still in form and maybe the best USA forward to play?
Isco -Spain- played well this year at Real. I can understand it slightly after all that Spain team is still stacked.
Nasari -France- he still really good and can make plays. My only guess is cause he was sort of a problem at Euro a few years ago is what cost him.

My snubs are all defenders:

Felipe Luis-Brazil- Brazil lack quality when it comes to 'defensive' full-backs. I'm not convinced by Marcelo or Dani Alves, and Felipe Luis had an excellent season.
Miranda-Brazil- Again, a Brazilian defender, he had an excellent season and I would have picked him over David Luiz (Lol, £50 million, what were PSG thinking?).
Ashley Cole-England- Love him or hate him, he's a quality full-back and has plenty of experience. Even when he lacked match fitness at the end of last season he still looked quality. Maybe Luke Shaw/Leighton Baines will prove me wrong? Who knows...

Agreed, Luis and Cole shouldn't have been snubbed. For Miranda however, seeing how Brazil already has Dante for another strong and tall defender, I wasn't suprised when he wasn't included.

There's only one for me, Bruma........NOOOO!!!

I get that Dante's good and all but picking someone like David Luiz over Miranda is insane in my mind. Unless they plan on playing Thiago Silva alongside Dante (Which is what I think we all expect) but I still would have taken Miranda over Luiz as back up. Luiz is too much of a liability for me, more like a Defensive midfielder than an actual defender.

Talking about the World Cup, anyone wants a poll about it? (Like the one for the UCL)

Speaking of the World Cup, I think Gambler might want to place a few bets again.

After all, this particular tournament only comes around once every 4 years.

I'd be down for some casual forum bets. Anyone care to disagree that England will make it out of their group? Loser puts 'doswillrule is love, doswillrule is life' in their sig or vice versa.

I don't mind doing minor bets I suppose...

Also CR7 dealing with tendinitis in his leg only 12 days before first game. This is good news for that group since sounds like he won't be 100%.

Also I had this conversation with a friend: Do you feel if Argentina wins the World Cup and Messi is a key to it, ie. scores 5+ goals, you think it helps cement him as best player ever? Or do we after he wins, "well Pele won 3?"

Ahh, the got-everything-except-height-boy.......I'd say even if he's not the key of the campaign, if they win, he'll be immortalized anyway. He's got the critics, the goody-two-shoes, and the media on his side, it doesn't matter even if he doesn't score. I got a little knack for the lone anti-hero, so........SUAREZ FOR THE WIN!!! (And then to be purchased by Real Madrid with a fee of 125 million dollars).....and then losing the Balon D'oro to CR7........Happy Ending!!!