california mandatorize schools to teach about LGBT
approve of new bill?
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But so much hate.... i read through the comments in several articles and man...
http://news.yahoo.com/calif-gov-signs-landmark-law-teach-gay-history-190037960.html
so much hate.... I think Jerry Brown did the right thing but.... so much hate...
What do YOU think of this new law? Fire away.
http://news.yahoo.com/calif-gov-signs-landmark-law-teach-gay-history-190037960.html
so much hate.... I think Jerry Brown did the right thing but.... so much hate...
What do YOU think of this new law? Fire away.
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Approve! People are people and their sexual orientation doesn't change that. It might be receiving a lot of hate but in the long run I think it's a good thing because it will change the way some people view LGBT.
BTW I like you picture :D
BTW I like you picture :D
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Meh. Their isn't much gay history... nice to teach the little one that their different people doing different things. Should be good for the high schoolers... specially after that neo nazi kid executed that gay teen down south.
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Looky-tan
Got Megane?
I approve, but I also wonder how much LGBT history there is. I read threw that article in the link, but maybe not well enough, I didn't see where it mentioned at what grade level would LGBT History be incorporated with, or at least where will the majority be taught. This is probably something meant for high schoolers right, perhaps middle school, most likely not for K-6 right?
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animefreak_usa wrote...
Meh. Their isn't much gay history... nice to teach the little one that their different people doing different things. Should be good for the high schoolers... specially after that neo nazi kid executed that gay teen down south.you cant say that there isn't much gay history if you don't know it. you could say while your teaching Roman and Greek history that most of the people where bisexual or something. you could say the specific people in history who were gay. I just dont thing of that as gay history, i think of it as history with important people who just happen to be gay.
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It is kind of irrelevant. It is one thing to fight for LGBT activism in order to be treated equally, but to act as though there is some grand, in depth history that needs to be taught in schools is ludicrous.
I mean it is good to teach kids about what the LGBT movement is and what strides it has made in the last few decades, but it feels like they are trying to grandstand this a bit. As though LGBT is so entirely important to human history that it has to be recorded in the annuls of time as to make sure its events can never transpire again. Ugh.
I mean jeez. I'm bisexual, and while I don't affiliate myself with the LGBT movement, I fully support them. And I think it is a good thing for everyone to understand what LGBT stands for and their convictions, but anything more than that is just pushing their luck.
Now if they actually mean teach gay history in terms of erasing the stigma of homosexuality from the "record books" so to speak, then that is a good idea. It is bad enough that the unauthored adage "History is written by the victors." holds truth. Now you have to consider all of the bias against mentioning that which is considered taboo at the time. It isn't a stretch to believe that includes hiding mention of homosexuality throughout history.
I mean it is good to teach kids about what the LGBT movement is and what strides it has made in the last few decades, but it feels like they are trying to grandstand this a bit. As though LGBT is so entirely important to human history that it has to be recorded in the annuls of time as to make sure its events can never transpire again. Ugh.
I mean jeez. I'm bisexual, and while I don't affiliate myself with the LGBT movement, I fully support them. And I think it is a good thing for everyone to understand what LGBT stands for and their convictions, but anything more than that is just pushing their luck.
Now if they actually mean teach gay history in terms of erasing the stigma of homosexuality from the "record books" so to speak, then that is a good idea. It is bad enough that the unauthored adage "History is written by the victors." holds truth. Now you have to consider all of the bias against mentioning that which is considered taboo at the time. It isn't a stretch to believe that includes hiding mention of homosexuality throughout history.
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It's not that I don't approve of gay history or anything. But unless being gay directly contributes to the lesson or the subject, what does it matter if historical figures/events are gay or not? Isn't it about the things people do in life and not what gender they are attracted to? I mean I support gay rights and all, but at the most I think it should be an elective or extracurricular. Just as you should have the option to love whoever you want, you should also have the option of taking the class.
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Not upset. Anybody making a major contribution to history should be in the books.
The comments don't surprise me either. More amusing than anything else.
The comments don't surprise me either. More amusing than anything else.
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I'm ok with this but I have a feeling that it's just going to be a couple of pages worth of history all the way at the back of the book. It'll take a while before it becomes a main subject.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Just because the Romans and Greeks had the advantage to cornholing boys doesn't mean it a gay history fact. I was talking of Stonewall, Harvey Milk and Dan White( which made a huge impact in defense in trial... he claim he killed the Mayor and a gay council man because he ate too much twinkies and coke.. the soda.) and gay rights. Which i learned in college.. because i come from the anti- gay capital of california... a place here three times they bomb a gay nite club.
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It seems somewhat ironic that California of all places would do this. What a joke of a state. I support gay rights but this is completely pointless. Gay people will only be accepted or more tolerated until religion vanishes from this world or they churches join us in the 21th century, which is something that's never gonna happen. Classes like this are going to do nothing for people that use religion to promote their bigotry.
And yes, I clearly believe the reason gay people are not treated equally is because of religion. There's no other reason in my eyes (besides being a hateful bastard)
And yes, I clearly believe the reason gay people are not treated equally is because of religion. There's no other reason in my eyes (besides being a hateful bastard)
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meh, couldn't really care less if they do or don't. That really wouldn't be on my agenda of what to teach though. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for gay rights, but gay history is on the bottom of what needs to be taught. My focus would be on trying to teach the ones who can't read,write, or do math as the more pressing concern.
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FreeThought wrote...
Serious Question: Who would benefit from this? Gay people....but then, really, what's the point of adding more to learn when basic reading and writing is already difficult for children(some) to understand.
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Tsurayu wrote...
It is irrelevant. It is one thing to fight for LGBT activism in order to be treated equally, but to act as though there is some grand, in depth history that needs to be taught in schools is ludicrous. ^
This...
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jmason
Curious and Wondering
I support gay rights, but this - teaching LGBT history in California schools as a social studies lesson - is pure unadulterated bullshit.
My stand for the LGBT community is their right to be treated equally. They have that right, and there should be no impediment for them to exercise that right. But having schools teach LGBT history in special lessons is like shoving it down everybody's throats, and that's no way to have people accept gays. History should be honest, but people have rights too. Gay advocates and non-advocates alike should be treated equally, and putting this in schools is in NO WAY a sign of equality. Imagine if some hardline redneck sends his young son to school, and Little Jimmy comes home telling daddy how they watched Brokeback Mountain in class and it was nice seeing the cowboys. Don't you think this man would get upset? Of course he will be upset for a lot of reasons. And what if it's a church-run school? Would pastor teachers be compelled by the state to teach children how to be accepting of gays and lesbians, despite it being against their religion?
And I don't know if the gay community has some really in-depth history that could warrant serious inclusion in the curriculum of today's schools as a special lesson. I suggest it should be just be put in encyclopedias and be published for free reading in school libraries. Or ask publishing houses to not omit significant LGBT tidbits of history from the study course books that children get in school (like how Alan Turing was gay). But please, adding it in social studies as a special lesson is just ridiculous.
If this goes down, sadly, the LGBT community will become what they hated in the first place. First they are fighting for equality, and when they got equality, they rub it in others' faces and try to impede others' rights to equality. And that's just sad.
My stand for the LGBT community is their right to be treated equally. They have that right, and there should be no impediment for them to exercise that right. But having schools teach LGBT history in special lessons is like shoving it down everybody's throats, and that's no way to have people accept gays. History should be honest, but people have rights too. Gay advocates and non-advocates alike should be treated equally, and putting this in schools is in NO WAY a sign of equality. Imagine if some hardline redneck sends his young son to school, and Little Jimmy comes home telling daddy how they watched Brokeback Mountain in class and it was nice seeing the cowboys. Don't you think this man would get upset? Of course he will be upset for a lot of reasons. And what if it's a church-run school? Would pastor teachers be compelled by the state to teach children how to be accepting of gays and lesbians, despite it being against their religion?
And I don't know if the gay community has some really in-depth history that could warrant serious inclusion in the curriculum of today's schools as a special lesson. I suggest it should be just be put in encyclopedias and be published for free reading in school libraries. Or ask publishing houses to not omit significant LGBT tidbits of history from the study course books that children get in school (like how Alan Turing was gay). But please, adding it in social studies as a special lesson is just ridiculous.
If this goes down, sadly, the LGBT community will become what they hated in the first place. First they are fighting for equality, and when they got equality, they rub it in others' faces and try to impede others' rights to equality. And that's just sad.
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Iamnotchrishansen
Jiggy Blackson
I don't see the merit in this except another means of promoting political correctness. Where are they gonna teach it? Sex ed? If they are going to teach about the history of the LGBT community, its irrelevant.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Black History month, Hispanic History month, Asian day are all irrelevant now of days... just teach history equally and include some other facts.