do you think most girls go for the bad dudes

Incorrect. Women love nice guys. However, if a nice guy doesn't even have the balls to come up and say that they like you, what's the point? The deal breaker is the level of confidence and attitude in general. If I nice guy is true to what he is, and isn't afraid to go that extra mile, he'll do fine. However, what you see, and the general view of society is, that most nice guys aren't like this. They're seen as weak, submissive, and relatively pitiful. Is this true? No, not at all. However that's how people like to split the male gender, or anything in general.

Let me put it in retrospect for ya.

Lets say you have 3 guys;

Guy A is a nice guy, but he's shy, submissive, doesn't like to talk to anyone he doesn't know very well. Do you really think, this being the case, that anyone will get anywhere? No. There are times you have to man up, and do something. Guy A isn't going to do it. He's out of the picture.

Moving on to Guy B. He's cocky, an asshole, but confident, doesn't take shit from anyone. He gets shit done, even if it means stomping out everyone in the process. Is he the ideal man? Hell no, but should push come to shove, and if actually gives two shits at the time, you know he'll take care of business. Lots of work to be done, but the general basis of what a male needs to have is there.

Now for Guy C, the rarity. The guy is nice, kind, and willing to treat a lady with respect. However, unlike Guy A, he has confidence in himself, he won't shy away, and should something need to be done, he gets it done. This is what a women wants. Someone with a heart, but won't get stomped on because of it.

Now, out of the three, which do you think a lady will go after? I'll give you a hint; It's not A or B.

My point was that if you didn't even have the fortitude to do something about liking someone, you weren't going to get anywhere. You pretty much said it yourself; You built up the courage to ask someone out, being nice and such. However, some people can't even do that, thus they don't get anywhere. This brings be back to my example of Guy C. He's nice and whatnot, but unlike Guy A, he's willing to take that step, and try something.

Also, last I checked, this was an explanation on why women "like to go for the bad boys". It wasn't on what men see in woman, or what woman need to have. Don't get me wrong. If you really want to get that far off topic, I'm more than willing to discuss that with you, but I'd rather not. Make a(nother) thread on it, than we'll talk.

Last, but not least, the fact that this thread was made was to figure out why women supposedly went for said types of guys, and why. The reason why people continue to whine about it is because they continue to stay in that mindset that assholes get all the chicks, because they're assholes, not realizing that sometimes people have things that they don't, and should start gaining the things they haven't realized they need. I can almost promise you that if they started doing something about it, and didn't just bitch 24/7 like all is lost, and they're hopeless in having the ability to actually gain the attention of the female gender, you might have less of those "whiny users". However, that doesn't seem like the case.

Also, before you try to make it out like I'm bagging on everyone, and that I somehow am hating on everyone, I'm not. I've seen a lot of nice people here, all of which I'd very much like to get along with. However, that does not change the fact that people do need to work on themselves, and how they approach things, in order to get anywhere for anything. This includes love and relationships. And honestly, I believe it's pessimistic people like you that continues to keep the ridiculous general mindset of asshats getting all the girls. Maybe you should try being a bit more optimistic about the matter, instead of trying to regurgitate the same negative general mindset over and over, making it seem like that's just how things are, and nothing will ever change. Just a thought.