Fap Cleansing?
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Considering the nature of this forum, I can safely assume that everyone here faps. And there's no denying that the Japanese people are into some strange things that some people here may enjoy too. But I'm not creating this topic to judge.
Recently, I've been feeling like I watch some strange things to fap. Not really Hentai, I actually think the Hentai I'm into is quite normal in contrast with how weird Hentai can get. But I do watch some porn that can be considered weird and looking back, this is something that has been growing as time goes by. For instance, in 2011 I was somewhat disturbed by deepthroat porn. Now, I find it normal. From a psychological point of view, I think that these tastes are very difficult if not impossible to lose. The way I see it is that, if it hurts no one, there's no problem.
Like I said, since November 2012, more or less, I've been wondering about this and today, watching an episode of Californication, the bald pervert was, quite humorously, talking about "weaning off the weird stuff" and that made me want to do the same. So, now I'm going through my collection and eliminating some strange things.
What's your take on all of this? And by this I mean the general situation, not necessarily my own case.
Do you think your sexual interests deviate from the norm and can, therefore, be considered strange by society in general?
If so, are you still happy with your interests?
In your opinion, do you think these are things you had all along and discovered or things that exposure to sexual materials has developed?
Have you ever wanted to stop using these materials, permanently or temporarily?
After finding/developing these tastes, do you think it is possible to lose them?
Where would you draw the line, so to speak, when it comes to the pursue of these interests?
Recently, I've been feeling like I watch some strange things to fap. Not really Hentai, I actually think the Hentai I'm into is quite normal in contrast with how weird Hentai can get. But I do watch some porn that can be considered weird and looking back, this is something that has been growing as time goes by. For instance, in 2011 I was somewhat disturbed by deepthroat porn. Now, I find it normal. From a psychological point of view, I think that these tastes are very difficult if not impossible to lose. The way I see it is that, if it hurts no one, there's no problem.
Like I said, since November 2012, more or less, I've been wondering about this and today, watching an episode of Californication, the bald pervert was, quite humorously, talking about "weaning off the weird stuff" and that made me want to do the same. So, now I'm going through my collection and eliminating some strange things.
What's your take on all of this? And by this I mean the general situation, not necessarily my own case.
Do you think your sexual interests deviate from the norm and can, therefore, be considered strange by society in general?
If so, are you still happy with your interests?
In your opinion, do you think these are things you had all along and discovered or things that exposure to sexual materials has developed?
Have you ever wanted to stop using these materials, permanently or temporarily?
After finding/developing these tastes, do you think it is possible to lose them?
Where would you draw the line, so to speak, when it comes to the pursue of these interests?
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623
FAKKU QA
Uhh...I'm not sure. I mean, I think it might be hard to reverse the effects I guess. I mean, I like futanari, but I haven't fapped to it in a while. But, if you still show me a good futa manga, I'll get turned on. I'm no psychologist, but can simply denying yourself exposure to something make you no longer get turned on by it?
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yurixhentai
desu
I'm not going to stop looking at material that I like because it's considered "weird" (whatever that means to each individual). That would put it in a negative light, and I like what I like, so I will continue fapping.
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623 wrote...
I'm no psychologist, but can simply denying yourself exposure to something make you no longer get turned on by it?That's a very interesting point. With other addictions, perhaps excluding extreme ones, the general idea is to gradually decrease exposure to it but one can't wean off sex the same way. When gay people try it in one of those crazy camps, they simply end up repressed and I would say, sick.
I'm not sure one can lose the ability (?) to be turned on to it but I think one could lose the urge to look it up. It reminds me House when he says something along the lines of "Cured alcholics are still alcholics. If they never drink another drop of booze in their life, it's because there wasn't enough time".
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Heterosexual males look at porn. Biologically, the impulse to procreate and scout out suitable females for mating is intense, due to higher levels of testosterone compared to females. Since bending over any random passerby is illegal and socially unacceptable, that urge is siphoned into porn and masturbating. Anything pertaining to such an activity is completely, thoroughly, and psychologically normal and healthy. It expends the innate and urgent desire to mate, and keeps your head clear.
So long as you do not constantly feel compelled to do so at the expense of jobs, a life, a social life, you are fine. The nature of the porn you enjoy does not, in any way, reflect upon your character or person. "Weaning off the weird stuff" is stupid, because it doesn't affect you either way. You're overthinking this terribly. You like what you like, enjoy it.
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So long as you do not constantly feel compelled to do so at the expense of jobs, a life, a social life, you are fine. The nature of the porn you enjoy does not, in any way, reflect upon your character or person. "Weaning off the weird stuff" is stupid, because it doesn't affect you either way. You're overthinking this terribly. You like what you like, enjoy it.
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Lollikittie wrote...
So long as you do not constantly feel compelled to do so at the expense of jobs, a life, a social life, you are fine. The nature of the porn you enjoy does not, in any way, reflect upon your character or person. "Weaning off the weird stuff" is stupid, because it doesn't affect you either way. You're overthinking this terribly. You like what you like, enjoy it.I'm not particularly worried with my health. As I've said in the main post, my interests aren't, in any way, illegal or, I'll risk this word, imoral.
I don't know, I just took a time to think and wondered if I would be better off without these things. In a metaphorical way, it's kinda like when someone takes an hour to clean up his book case and then, one day, thinks: If I got rid of some of these books, I could do it much faster.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
I like my perversions. It not like I kill hookers and fuck their eye socket or drain them of their tasty cherry whore aid... at least anymore.
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I would not get rid of any of my "strange things" It doesnt effect my daily life and, I dont think getting rid of these things will make my life any better.
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I wouldn't download porn that contains strange fetishes. Because I normally consider "strange" things with negativity.
And I don't care what the general public thinks. We disagree on a number of fields.
And I don't care what the general public thinks. We disagree on a number of fields.
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devsonfire
3,000,000th Poster
Why would I care about what society thinks about me when what they do is judge, judge, and judge?
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ponponpon wrote...
I would not get rid of any of my "strange things" It doesnt effect my daily life and, I dont think getting rid of these things will make my life any better.this
besides, even if it isn't hentai monster girls and yanderes are still fun to read/watch about
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The first time I seen a vagina I was disgusted, but now I just like anything female, I'm sure after a while of browsing progressively more and more "unusual" content you just don't give a fuck anymore.
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I used to look at semi-weird (more wacky than gross, tbh) stuff for the "yeah I seen that shit" factor.
Now I just pursue what actually attracts me, much easier.
Now I just pursue what actually attracts me, much easier.
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I do occasionally delete this or that from my collection, but mainly I add onto it, and categorize the stuff. Then I get a homemade script to shuffle a selection, like 30% vanilla, 35% shibari, 30% toys and 5% tentacles for example.
The thing is, when you browse this stuff, your standards are constantly being reviewed and most of the time they "lower" on the "socialy acceptable" scale.
A year ago I was grossed out by guro and scat. Nowadays I find it enjoyable, not to a point where I'll fap to it but still arousing in some way.
It's like when a friend of mine introduced me to yaoi. At first I was like "Hell no!" But then, well, long story short, I'm bicurious now^^.
I think that our main fetishes remain the same throughout our lives, and that we build ramifications towards more distant ones, with varying degrees of affinity. The constantly growing network forms, well, your hentai collection. And by analysing it, you can get a good idea of what the fetishes of a person are.
I have yet to experience the urge to entirely delete a section because of my lack of interest or opposition to a fetish, but maybe that'll appear someday.
The thing is, when you browse this stuff, your standards are constantly being reviewed and most of the time they "lower" on the "socialy acceptable" scale.
A year ago I was grossed out by guro and scat. Nowadays I find it enjoyable, not to a point where I'll fap to it but still arousing in some way.
It's like when a friend of mine introduced me to yaoi. At first I was like "Hell no!" But then, well, long story short, I'm bicurious now^^.
I think that our main fetishes remain the same throughout our lives, and that we build ramifications towards more distant ones, with varying degrees of affinity. The constantly growing network forms, well, your hentai collection. And by analysing it, you can get a good idea of what the fetishes of a person are.
I have yet to experience the urge to entirely delete a section because of my lack of interest or opposition to a fetish, but maybe that'll appear someday.
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While some people have raised interesting points, namely 623 and Gubi, I think this topic needs something, it needs some questions. Maybe I should have added it from the get go but oh well. I'll update the main post.
Do you think your sexual interests deviate from the norm and can, therefore, be considered strange by society in general?
Yes. Even though the norm can only be a penis and a vagina, I still think my interests can be considered strange.
If so, are you still happy with your interests?
Not always. While I don't feel necessarily guilty, I sometimes wonder if I would be better off without them and I also wonder if these things could actually be harmful in a relationship or in social life with some fear of social hummiliation in case someone finds out about them. It may be stupid or even sexist but sometimes I think: what would that cute girl who was into me think if she knew that I like to fap to *insert weird thing here*?
In your opinion, do you think these are things you had all along and discovered or things that exposure to sexual materials has developed?
While I hate to side with unattractive females who boycott porn because they don't have a sex life, I think they have a point. A few years ago, I was disturbed by deepthroat porn, for example, and now, my opinion has flipped completely. And I would say that happened by being exposed to it.
Have you ever wanted to stop using these materials, permanently or temporarily?
Yes. I remember that a few years ago I, unintentionally, sort of forgot my foot fetish. I went for about a month or two watching porn that can be considered quite normal (the porn I consider normal is the porn that I wouldn't necessarily mind to be caught with). Interestingly enough, I would say that time was the one I was more socially active. Now, however, I am considering doing the same, this time with intent, because my interests have increased.
After finding/developing these tastes, do you think it is possible to lose them?
Not sure about lose the interests themselves but perhaps the urge to look for them. I think I can keep myself from watching them but, if, say, I find them by accident, a relapse could very well occour. In the question above, I mentioned I went through a long time without indulging a fetish but it came back due to an inevitable occasion, I would say.
Where would you draw the line, so to speak, when it comes to the pursue of these interests?
The main line, I would say is illegal and unhealthy activity. Losing a job, cancelling social events or never leaving the house are all indicators of an unhealthy addiction. If you engage your fetishes by spliting hairs between shame and knowing the smell inside a jail cell, you should stop too.
The other line I'd draw would be with yourself.
Do you think your sexual interests deviate from the norm and can, therefore, be considered strange by society in general?
Yes. Even though the norm can only be a penis and a vagina, I still think my interests can be considered strange.
If so, are you still happy with your interests?
Not always. While I don't feel necessarily guilty, I sometimes wonder if I would be better off without them and I also wonder if these things could actually be harmful in a relationship or in social life with some fear of social hummiliation in case someone finds out about them. It may be stupid or even sexist but sometimes I think: what would that cute girl who was into me think if she knew that I like to fap to *insert weird thing here*?
In your opinion, do you think these are things you had all along and discovered or things that exposure to sexual materials has developed?
While I hate to side with unattractive females who boycott porn because they don't have a sex life, I think they have a point. A few years ago, I was disturbed by deepthroat porn, for example, and now, my opinion has flipped completely. And I would say that happened by being exposed to it.
Have you ever wanted to stop using these materials, permanently or temporarily?
Yes. I remember that a few years ago I, unintentionally, sort of forgot my foot fetish. I went for about a month or two watching porn that can be considered quite normal (the porn I consider normal is the porn that I wouldn't necessarily mind to be caught with). Interestingly enough, I would say that time was the one I was more socially active. Now, however, I am considering doing the same, this time with intent, because my interests have increased.
After finding/developing these tastes, do you think it is possible to lose them?
Not sure about lose the interests themselves but perhaps the urge to look for them. I think I can keep myself from watching them but, if, say, I find them by accident, a relapse could very well occour. In the question above, I mentioned I went through a long time without indulging a fetish but it came back due to an inevitable occasion, I would say.
Where would you draw the line, so to speak, when it comes to the pursue of these interests?
The main line, I would say is illegal and unhealthy activity. Losing a job, cancelling social events or never leaving the house are all indicators of an unhealthy addiction. If you engage your fetishes by spliting hairs between shame and knowing the smell inside a jail cell, you should stop too.
The other line I'd draw would be with yourself.
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nacho wrote...
I love it when insecure little fucks try to tell me what's 'normal'.And I love it when idiots completely miss the point. This discussion is not necessarily about what's normal and it most certainly isn't about telling *you* about it.
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[size=14]I really hate the Idea of self-censorship. Why should I have to pander my tastes to suit what is socially seen as acceptable? I like what I like and as long as I'm not hurting anyone by liking it I don't see why anyone should care, and if they do they can go fuck themselves.[/h]
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nateriver10 wrote...
nacho wrote...
I love it when insecure little fucks try to tell me what's 'normal'.And I love it when idiots completely miss the point. This discussion is not necessarily about what's normal and it most certainly isn't about telling *you* about it.
You're talking about interests being considered 'strange' "by society". I got that far that you're not the one trying to tell me what's normal and what's not, and that was more a general statement to my view of the whole thing than trying to be impolite towards you. On hindsight, I should have made it more clear, but I wasn't expecting you to feel addressed by the mentioning of 'insecure little fucks', oh well. I see that you insult people directly very quickly.