Need some help please...
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Well, it goes like this: I have a friend of mine that I love very much...I support her, cheer her up, everything...but recently I learned about her "dirty little secret" well...kind of, the thing is...she has a "bad part" of her that she hates so much because it's evil, has logical thoughts...everything opposite of how she is, and her "bad part" is obviously evil and doesn't has feelings or anything...
I'm looking for a way to make she beats "her"...but it seems difficult, according to her, her bad part has won lately...and according to her plans, she will only withstand this for 8 more years, the time she calculated to make everything she wants the most...she is willing to commit suicide if she is losing after that 8 years...
I don't want to lose her...please, I need some advice...both I and she are desperate of getting out of this really difficult situation...
And well...according to my cousin (she is studying psycology or something like that) my friend has "dissociative identity disorder" if that's true, is there a cure or treatment for that?
I hope someone believes me...this is no joke, someone take me seriously please u.u
And in case you're wondering...yes, I had a pair of brief chats with "her"...it's not like her...I'm more scared to lose her after that u.u
I'm looking for a way to make she beats "her"...but it seems difficult, according to her, her bad part has won lately...and according to her plans, she will only withstand this for 8 more years, the time she calculated to make everything she wants the most...she is willing to commit suicide if she is losing after that 8 years...
I don't want to lose her...please, I need some advice...both I and she are desperate of getting out of this really difficult situation...
And well...according to my cousin (she is studying psycology or something like that) my friend has "dissociative identity disorder" if that's true, is there a cure or treatment for that?
I hope someone believes me...this is no joke, someone take me seriously please u.u
And in case you're wondering...yes, I had a pair of brief chats with "her"...it's not like her...I'm more scared to lose her after that u.u
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Seek professional help. she should talk to a doctor about it.
What makes it "bad"? please elaborate.
What makes it "bad"? please elaborate.
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Mr.Shaggnificent wrote...
Seek professional help. she should talk to a doctor about it.What makes it "bad"? please elaborate.
Well "she" is cold, cruel, has no feelings, enjoys the pain of others, getting to the point of physical aggression...everything opposite of her
Well...I'll talk about it with her if she comes to talk today, she has been quite depressed by that
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Treatment of DID may attempt to reconnect the identities of disparate alters into a single functioning identity. In addition or instead, treatment may focus on symptoms, to relieve the distressing aspects of the condition and ensure the safety of the individual. Treatment methods may include psychotherapy and medications for comorbid disorders.[1] Some behavior therapists initially use behavioral treatments such as only responding to a single identity, and using more traditional therapy once a consistent response is established.[55] It has been stated that treatment recommendations that follow from models that do not believe in the traumatic origins of DID might be harmful due to the fact that they ignore the posttraumatic symptomatology of people with DID.[39]
More in Wikipedia.
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Get her help immediately if she becomes violent in any way. Either call a hospital or talk to her parents.
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AvatarEnd wrote...
Get her help immediately if she becomes violent in any way. Either call a hospital or talk to her parents.Her parents completely ignore what happens to her...so it won't help very much, in this moments, she only has her friends, and only the ones that "survived her", the other ones left her alone...
Hmm, how much would cost a treatment like that?...money is no problem and I'm willing to do anything, but I have no idea
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Reizuru wrote...
Hmm, how much would cost a treatment like that?...money is no problem and I'm willing to do anything, but I have no ideaNo idea what country you're in, but generally psychological or psychiatric treatment is fairly expensive. You'd have to call them and check to see what their rates are.
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AvatarEnd wrote...
Reizuru wrote...
Hmm, how much would cost a treatment like that?...money is no problem and I'm willing to do anything, but I have no ideaNo idea what country you're in, but generally psychological or psychiatric treatment is fairly expensive. You'd have to call them and check to see what their rates are.
Well, it doesn't matter...anything will be pretty cheap if it's to help her, she is also looking for a solution, the few friends of her that know about this too...so everyone will be supporting, there's no problem with money
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Reizuru wrote...
Well, it doesn't matter...anything will be pretty cheap if it's to help her, she is also looking for a solution, the few friends of her that know about this too...so everyone will be supporting, there's no problem with moneyThis would be a long term issue, wouldn't be solved in a few months if it's as serious as DID. Not sure if you and your friends would be up for that. Though I forgot to mention, Some do offered discounted rates to the poor, so there's that.
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AvatarEnd wrote...
Reizuru wrote...
Well, it doesn't matter...anything will be pretty cheap if it's to help her, she is also looking for a solution, the few friends of her that know about this too...so everyone will be supporting, there's no problem with moneyThis would be a long term issue, wouldn't be solved in a few months if it's as serious as DID. Not sure if you and your friends would be up for that. Though I forgot to mention, Some do offered discounted rates to the poor, so there's that.
Yes, after reading about it I know...it's actually something that takes even years, not only months, and yes, we would be up for that...doesn't matter how long it takes...we only want her to be like we love her...and so does she.
Thanks everyone for the help, we all appreciate it very much...really, thank you all for everything
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Cost depends on her health insurance. Psychiatrists can easily cost you over $200 an hour...medication extra =)
But, I wouldn't recommend 'helping' too much. People need to learn how to solve their own problems, otherwise, they will keep getting screwed by their problems. Make suggestions, be supportive, don't do everything for them.
Besides, people get addicted to their own struggles...if they can't snap out of this one thing, there is nothing you can do that will help them. They will find ways to sabotage themselves over and over again.
But, I wouldn't recommend 'helping' too much. People need to learn how to solve their own problems, otherwise, they will keep getting screwed by their problems. Make suggestions, be supportive, don't do everything for them.
Besides, people get addicted to their own struggles...if they can't snap out of this one thing, there is nothing you can do that will help them. They will find ways to sabotage themselves over and over again.
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hightide wrote...
Cost depends on her health insurance. Psychiatrists can easily cost you over $200 an hour...medication extra =)But, I wouldn't recommend 'helping' too much. People need to learn how to solve their own problems, otherwise, they will keep getting screwed by their problems. Make suggestions, be supportive, don't do everything for them.
Besides, people get addicted to their own struggles...if they can't snap out of this one thing, there is nothing you can do that will help them. They will find ways to sabotage themselves over and over again.
Dude...she always could with every problem by herself...but this seems to be her "ultimate" problem...she can't do it alone and it's a fact already confirmed
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Dude...going to a psychiatrist is just common sense when you think you're losing it. Unless she's already incapable of common sense (yes, people with psychosis have some common sense too).
If you cough up blood, you don't think about killing yourself in 8 years...you go to the doctor for some medical help. Get a diagnosis, maybe a second opinion, and then start the treatment. To recover faster, you would do things to get peak health, if you can afford it.
There is always an underlying reason for any behaviour, whether subconscious or conscious...unless they're actually crazy and their neural pathways are fucked up.
If you cough up blood, you don't think about killing yourself in 8 years...you go to the doctor for some medical help. Get a diagnosis, maybe a second opinion, and then start the treatment. To recover faster, you would do things to get peak health, if you can afford it.
There is always an underlying reason for any behaviour, whether subconscious or conscious...unless they're actually crazy and their neural pathways are fucked up.
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Definitely serious. How is you friend getting help atm?
If you have seen Sybil, and through extensive research, you may come across treatments for DID.
Some sites that pique your interest: 1.) http://www.medicinenet.com/dissociative_identity_disorder/article.htm
2.) http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder
If you have seen Sybil, and through extensive research, you may come across treatments for DID.
Some sites that pique your interest: 1.) http://www.medicinenet.com/dissociative_identity_disorder/article.htm
2.) http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder
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hightide wrote...
Dude...going to a psychiatrist is just common sense when you think you're losing it. Unless she's already incapable of common sense (yes, people with psychosis have some common sense too).If you cough up blood, you don't think about killing yourself in 8 years...you go to the doctor for some medical help. Get a diagnosis, maybe a second opinion, and then start the treatment. To recover faster, you would do things to get peak health, if you can afford it.
There is always an underlying reason for any behaviour, whether subconscious or conscious...unless they're actually crazy and their neural pathways are fucked up.
Her common sense at this time is focused on the matter that she is losing and tries to hold back...it's really harder than you think...also, she is low on money (she lost her job because of this as well) so she already knows...but can't afford it
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Reizuru wrote...
hightide wrote...
Dude...going to a psychiatrist is just common sense when you think you're losing it. Unless she's already incapable of common sense (yes, people with psychosis have some common sense too).If you cough up blood, you don't think about killing yourself in 8 years...you go to the doctor for some medical help. Get a diagnosis, maybe a second opinion, and then start the treatment. To recover faster, you would do things to get peak health, if you can afford it.
There is always an underlying reason for any behaviour, whether subconscious or conscious...unless they're actually crazy and their neural pathways are fucked up.
Her common sense at this time is focused on the matter that she is losing and tries to hold back...it's really harder than you think...also, she is low on money (she lost her job because of this as well) so she already knows...but can't afford it
Your explanation isn't even logical. Sounds like you're caught up in her struggle too...too busy being addicted to the drama and coming up with excuses. There are free/low cost clinics in every first world country...there are even some in third world countries (yes, free/low cost psychiatric clinics). If there aren't any in your area, schedule consultations over the phone...free of long distance charges with skype. Although, if I had the money...I would spend it on a psychiatrist with a great track record. A few phone calls and emails are all it takes to put this on the right track, it would take less than an hour. But, no one even bothered to look for them...too busy piecing together a story of her struggle to tell themselves and others.
Look, I'm not claiming to know what is happening in your situation. I'm not even giving advice on what you should do, I'm simply suggesting the concept of waking up. People involved in this aren't using common sense...or any semblance of logic. There are things going on that no one seems to be aware of because they're too caught up in the dramatic aspect of this to do anything productive.
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hightide wrote...
Reizuru wrote...
hightide wrote...
Dude...going to a psychiatrist is just common sense when you think you're losing it. Unless she's already incapable of common sense (yes, people with psychosis have some common sense too).If you cough up blood, you don't think about killing yourself in 8 years...you go to the doctor for some medical help. Get a diagnosis, maybe a second opinion, and then start the treatment. To recover faster, you would do things to get peak health, if you can afford it.
There is always an underlying reason for any behaviour, whether subconscious or conscious...unless they're actually crazy and their neural pathways are fucked up.
Her common sense at this time is focused on the matter that she is losing and tries to hold back...it's really harder than you think...also, she is low on money (she lost her job because of this as well) so she already knows...but can't afford it
Your explanation isn't even logical. Sounds like you're caught up in her struggle too...too busy being addicted to the drama and coming up with excuses. There are free/low cost clinics in every first world country...there are even some in third world countries (yes, free/low cost psychiatric clinics). If there aren't any in your area, schedule consultations over the phone...free of long distance charges with skype. Although, if I had the money...I would spend it on a psychiatrist with a great track record. A few phone calls and emails are all it takes to put this on the right track, it would take less than an hour. But, no one even bothered to look for them...too busy piecing together a story of her struggle to tell themselves and others.
Look, I'm not claiming to know what is happening in your situation. I'm not even giving advice on what you should do, I'm simply suggesting the concept of waking up. People involved in this aren't using common sense...or any semblance of logic. There are things going on that no one seems to be aware of because they're too caught up in the dramatic aspect of this to do anything productive.
Well, actually kind of...but I don't want make this last longer so I'll leave it at this...it's now settled what is needed to be done, I'm just giving her some support by paying along her friends the treatment...the rest is up to her...
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
Hope you treat her soon. This sounds serious. Get her help fast.
And while you're at it, if it really is as serious as you say, get a few friends together, go to her house, and knock some sense into her parents! Why aren't they doing anything?!
And while you're at it, if it really is as serious as you say, get a few friends together, go to her house, and knock some sense into her parents! Why aren't they doing anything?!
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artcellrox wrote...
Hope you treat her soon. This sounds serious. Get her help fast.And while you're at it, if it really is as serious as you say, get a few friends together, go to her house, and knock some sense into her parents! Why aren't they doing anything?!
Because...she doesn't want to mature, she is childish, nice, cares about others, she has really fragile emotions, and she is also a dreamer (but that doesn't means she's ignorant, she is pretty smart) and "she" (referring to her other self) is really mature...also a emotionless girl, cold and cruel, with logical thoughts, that enjoys to make people suffer emotionally and physically.
But the point is, their parents won't do anything because no matter how many times she is telling them, they only say "it doesn't matter, it will be better if you mature and stop being such a stupid girl" her parents are way too close minded and don't care about her, they only want her to be "someone" in life...they don't care about her problems or how she feels
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
Reizuru wrote...
artcellrox wrote...
Hope you treat her soon. This sounds serious. Get her help fast.And while you're at it, if it really is as serious as you say, get a few friends together, go to her house, and knock some sense into her parents! Why aren't they doing anything?!
Because...she doesn't want to mature, she is childish, nice, cares about others, she has really fragile emotions, and she is also a dreamer (but that doesn't means she's ignorant, she is pretty smart) and "she" (referring to her other self) is really mature...also a emotionless girl, cold and cruel, with logical thoughts, that enjoys to make people suffer emotionally and physically.
But the point is, their parents won't do anything because no matter how many times she is telling them, they only say "it doesn't matter, it will be better if you mature and stop being such a stupid girl" her parents are way too close minded and don't care about her, they only want her to be "someone" in life...they don't care about her problems or how she feels
Why do you think I said "knock some sense"?! >:-(
If necessary, some drastic measures might need to be taken for her to remove her "inner Hollow". If need be, do so, if it means it will cure her. You want to prove yourself as a friend to her? Do what it takes to help and comfort her, be there for her.
But most importantly, never let her go.
