Orbital Frames vs Gundams

ok, macross vs gundams REALLY suck! they arent at par! but Orbital Frames (from Zone of the Enders) seems to have the on-par feel with gundam! SO!!!! which one will win?

I have to agree that while I like both an Orbital Frame would probably win. It's just better in every way compared to a Gundam. You could compare Gundams to the shitty LEVs, but I think we know who would win that. (only one that could stand a chance is Leo and his Vic Viper, but then again Vic Viper was almost on the same level as an Orbital Frame) An OF's speed alone would probably seal the deal in a fight with a Gundam.

hmm... i see, i see! but what you are comparing is the REGULAR gundams, right? i mean, try comparing those from 00 seasons and the orbital frames. because i get the feeling that they are actually on-par (sry, nvr watched any previous gundams before that)

Simply because I don't particularly enjoy the 00 series so I simply refuse to acknowledge them. That's just me though. If you like it that's fine.

what abt the 00 series that you dont like?

Nothing particular. Didn't watch it long enough for that. I just couldn't get into it and it wasn't like the old Gundam to me. Nothing else to it.

i see... lack of nostalgia, maybe?

I guess you could call it that. It's no big deal really. I like TTGL and Evangelion better than Gundam anyway.

eva i know, whats TTGL?....

oh, tengen toppa. nah didnt like it, just watching 2 episodes gave me a headache (dunnoe why, prob because they try to make jokes that are too mortifying to me)

Hmm, nothing trans am 00 raiser and a few dozen X gundams couldn't handle.

there is one thing they (X gundams) cant handle though... zero shift! the only enemy to that is the trans-am-ed 00 raiser

Hate to be a pain, but Jupiter have also been tapped in UC Gundam. It's where they get the fuel for minovski reactors, where that jackass with the Jupiter Fleet came from in Z Gundam, and where Judau ran away to after the end of ZZ, just to name some examples.

The jupiter fleet is responsible for transporting materials back and forth between Jupiter and Earth, but they mostly operate from a space station and not on the planet surface itself.

i dont think space CAN be colonized. i mean, how wide is it! you need to plant space stations every XXXX distance for an infinity until we either reach a really old one (meaning that space is actually spherical) or we go on continuously (meaning space is infinite)

i think we need to see what it would be like if we combine the primary idea of gundam, orbital frame, and macross. if anyone is pro enough to bring out a good sketch of the combined idea, i t-up you all the way to heaven! (we have kyrios from 00 season 1, having the macross-x-gundam resemblance)

Well, the space station they got there are colony types, similar to the ones they have in earth sphere.



Meh, there was Z and ZZ back in the days when MS transforms quite regularly, but the secondary forms are usually quite fugly (especially the Titan ones... *shudders*). Now, the non-canon but officially licensed Gundam mangas do have two neat designs, both from the book MS Generations.

RX-78E Gundam GT-FOUR
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/msgeneration/rx-78e.htm

Zaku Speed
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/msgeneration/zakuspeed.htm

Now, the GT-FOUR still retains the sci-fi blocky space fighter aesthetics of Gundam-verse aircraft that're just a major turn off for me (I think I used to make something similar when I was younger with Legos), and Zaku Speed never had official line drawings for a better look.


All in all, the two series is just all too different (ignoring orbital frame here on purpose... I see it as nothing more than a footnote in the history of Mecha in Anime) for a happy merger of the concept. Macross mechas are more highly fictional war machines (mass produced, standard load outs with minimal customization, etc), where as Gundam still features quite a bit of the classical super robot elements in its design and execution.

gatheringsin, is there a real space station? i dont watch news often, too busy with manga and anime so can you fill me in about real life space stations?