Rant on girls.
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neko-chan wrote...
lurk4moar wrote...
I'm as open minded about stuff as you can get, but retarded things I can't tolerate. Either be logical and straight forward or get lost.World doesn't work this way.
As for "can we still be friends" it's just retarded and stupid, I believe there is no second chance if the bitch breaks up with you for dumb reason you should realize that she is retarded and not worth your time.
It is so you can get over it and not be a wailing little bitch. Sometimes a relationship is just okay. instead of staying together so you can pretend to be nice to each other when you know that you don't want to be with this person for the rest of your life, you offer to just be friends. You don't hate them, and you still care for them as someone special. However, you don't want to be romantically involved anymore.
The only way you won't be friends anymore is if you broke up in a nasty and hurtful way or if the guy is to much a crybaby to move on.
Ahh neko, you are so cruel yet so smart.
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KnowsNoNoseBleed wrote...
It looks to me as if almost everyone here is stereotyping. [font=Verdana][color=green]Haha, you now know the secret behind the internet. Don't tell anyone! ;)
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Mod Note: After reading through the replies, I am glad that the discussion is back on track. However, I would still like to remind all users to stay on topic subsequently.
Thank you for your kind understanding and cooperation.
Thank you for your kind understanding and cooperation.
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I'll answer these from my experiences as a male. Women aren't as illogical as people make them out to be, but that doesn't mean its not like a Windows OS trying to communicate with a Macintosh OS at times.
First: After breaking up with someone you offer them friendship? How fucking stupid are you seriously? That will only cause more suffering for the guy who loves you, dumb idiots.
Majority of the time, they mean it. Women 'feel' things, and unlike us males, who 'logic' things. Females when they form a bond, they don't want to lose it. It means a lot to them, but not enough for them to stay together with that person they broke up with.
Men have an off and an on switch. They either are in love, or are not in love.
Second: Why the fuck do you say things such as "show me that you love me" and shit like that, can't I just fucking say I love you and that's it? I mean are you too stupid not to understand what I just said? Bad enough we need balls and courage to say that, and after that you say something along lines "show that you love me" or something even more idiotic "prove it to me". How the fuck am I supposed to know how do I prove it to you, I can't read your mind y'know.
Women need reassurance. They are constantly plagued by thoughts of 'does he really?', 'what does he?' and 'does this?' questions. This is just their innate submissive nature coming out. They 'rely' on others, specifically their boyfriends, because that is just one of the many things society tells us is 'right'. They need proof, and generally the weaker the female (emotionally/mentally), the more they ask for it. Which is the main cause of clingy females. The emotional rush of feeling loved plays a stronger role in females as well.
Third: Some of you bitches always talk in riddles and give some "signs", like any fucking person in this world would understand what the hell do you want, except you. So stop doing that shit and be straight forward like a normal person would be.
This comes down more to the way male and female brains are wired. Females are more aware of the little details in things. So they do stuff like put the car keys on the table when they want to leave, because THEY would notice it. To them, it doesn't make sense why males don't see these signs.
Males on the other hand, the 'hunters' work in groups, each have a specific task, like run towards the tree, or throw the spear, and that is what they focus on. Sure they notice the bush or table in their surroundings, but they care not for the pink daisy they are treading on. It gets in the way of the goal (mostly food.. or sex).
lurk4moar wrote...
First: After breaking up with someone you offer them friendship? How fucking stupid are you seriously? That will only cause more suffering for the guy who loves you, dumb idiots.
Majority of the time, they mean it. Women 'feel' things, and unlike us males, who 'logic' things. Females when they form a bond, they don't want to lose it. It means a lot to them, but not enough for them to stay together with that person they broke up with.
Men have an off and an on switch. They either are in love, or are not in love.
lurk4moar wrote...
Second: Why the fuck do you say things such as "show me that you love me" and shit like that, can't I just fucking say I love you and that's it? I mean are you too stupid not to understand what I just said? Bad enough we need balls and courage to say that, and after that you say something along lines "show that you love me" or something even more idiotic "prove it to me". How the fuck am I supposed to know how do I prove it to you, I can't read your mind y'know.
Women need reassurance. They are constantly plagued by thoughts of 'does he really?', 'what does he?' and 'does this?' questions. This is just their innate submissive nature coming out. They 'rely' on others, specifically their boyfriends, because that is just one of the many things society tells us is 'right'. They need proof, and generally the weaker the female (emotionally/mentally), the more they ask for it. Which is the main cause of clingy females. The emotional rush of feeling loved plays a stronger role in females as well.
lurk4moar wrote...
Third: Some of you bitches always talk in riddles and give some "signs", like any fucking person in this world would understand what the hell do you want, except you. So stop doing that shit and be straight forward like a normal person would be.
This comes down more to the way male and female brains are wired. Females are more aware of the little details in things. So they do stuff like put the car keys on the table when they want to leave, because THEY would notice it. To them, it doesn't make sense why males don't see these signs.
Males on the other hand, the 'hunters' work in groups, each have a specific task, like run towards the tree, or throw the spear, and that is what they focus on. Sure they notice the bush or table in their surroundings, but they care not for the pink daisy they are treading on. It gets in the way of the goal (mostly food.. or sex).
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
Foolnumber:
1. No. Guys can be, and usually are just as emotional as girls are. It is a misconception usually perpetuated by society norms that they are not. So more or less men just end up expressing emotions in a different outlet than women do because of what is expected of them.
There is no on and off switch to emotions and love. That is stupid.
2. Everyone needs reassurance and rely on things. Why are you acting like women are the only people that act this way? That is a pretty sexist thing to think. There are just as many clingy and needy guys are there are clingy and needy girls. And guys feel just as much as women, but again, due to society standards and norms it is more hidden.
3. This response of yours is just asinine at best. Did you really just give it?
1. No. Guys can be, and usually are just as emotional as girls are. It is a misconception usually perpetuated by society norms that they are not. So more or less men just end up expressing emotions in a different outlet than women do because of what is expected of them.
There is no on and off switch to emotions and love. That is stupid.
2. Everyone needs reassurance and rely on things. Why are you acting like women are the only people that act this way? That is a pretty sexist thing to think. There are just as many clingy and needy guys are there are clingy and needy girls. And guys feel just as much as women, but again, due to society standards and norms it is more hidden.
3. This response of yours is just asinine at best. Did you really just give it?
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Ah, ye olde "wired differently" response... In reality, individual men and individual women are more different from each other than men and women are as a group. It's just sexist societal expectations that blow up these differences between the genders.
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@Kalistean
1. Whilst I will admit that males can be just as emotional as females, I am going to have to disagree about the on/off switch comment about love.
You either love someone, or you don't. Sure you can be bitter, or feel hurt because your partner broke up with you, but that is because a part of you still loves them.
And there is a point, for most of us, where you stop loving them and move on. No one remembers the day they stop loving their partner/ex, but they do. (Of course, that is not to say that everyone will move on from all their old love's.)
2. When did I ever say males weren't as clingy? In this specific thread, Lurk is specifically complaining about things aimed at women, I didn't think I needed to mention that men could be just as clingy. Same rule applies on males though, the weaker they are mentally/emotionally, the more clingy they tend to be.
3. Yes, I did. There is a study however, mentioned in Mind and Maze: Spatial Cognition and Environmental Behavior written by Ann Sloan, which showed results where women 'on average' were able to find an object faster, and more accurately than men.
@Gizgal
To say that is to be grossly misinformed. The way that the male and female brain is hardwired, whilst not as significant as the difference between a monkeys and a dogs brain, are different. For example, the part of the brain where communication is processed (forgive me, I can't remember what its called), is slightly larger in women than it is in men. And, in general, women are better communicator's than men are.
Women also have a larger gap between the left and right hemispheres of their brain then men do.
Another example is that women are able to pick up a larger range, and had a greater sensitivity to smells than men do, despite the fact that both men and women have the same nose structure. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1796447.stm if you wish to read more)
Whilst I do agree that the way people are raised has a greater effect on their personalities and intelligence, I am going to have to say that science and human biology tell us that men and women are 'hardwired' differently.
1. Whilst I will admit that males can be just as emotional as females, I am going to have to disagree about the on/off switch comment about love.
You either love someone, or you don't. Sure you can be bitter, or feel hurt because your partner broke up with you, but that is because a part of you still loves them.
And there is a point, for most of us, where you stop loving them and move on. No one remembers the day they stop loving their partner/ex, but they do. (Of course, that is not to say that everyone will move on from all their old love's.)
2. When did I ever say males weren't as clingy? In this specific thread, Lurk is specifically complaining about things aimed at women, I didn't think I needed to mention that men could be just as clingy. Same rule applies on males though, the weaker they are mentally/emotionally, the more clingy they tend to be.
3. Yes, I did. There is a study however, mentioned in Mind and Maze: Spatial Cognition and Environmental Behavior written by Ann Sloan, which showed results where women 'on average' were able to find an object faster, and more accurately than men.
@Gizgal
To say that is to be grossly misinformed. The way that the male and female brain is hardwired, whilst not as significant as the difference between a monkeys and a dogs brain, are different. For example, the part of the brain where communication is processed (forgive me, I can't remember what its called), is slightly larger in women than it is in men. And, in general, women are better communicator's than men are.
Women also have a larger gap between the left and right hemispheres of their brain then men do.
Another example is that women are able to pick up a larger range, and had a greater sensitivity to smells than men do, despite the fact that both men and women have the same nose structure. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1796447.stm if you wish to read more)
Whilst I do agree that the way people are raised has a greater effect on their personalities and intelligence, I am going to have to say that science and human biology tell us that men and women are 'hardwired' differently.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
FoolNumber88 wrote...
@Kalistean1. Whilst I will admit that males can be just as emotional as females, I am going to have to disagree about the on/off switch comment about love.
You either love someone, or you don't. Sure you can be bitter, or feel hurt because your partner broke up with you, but that is because a part of you still loves them.
And there is a point, for most of us, where you stop loving them and move on. No one remembers the day they stop loving their partner/ex, but they do. (Of course, that is not to say that everyone will move on from all their old love's.)
2. When did I ever say males weren't as clingy? In this specific thread, Lurk is specifically complaining about things aimed at women, I didn't think I needed to mention that men could be just as clingy. Same rule applies on males though, the weaker they are mentally/emotionally, the more clingy they tend to be.
3. Yes, I did. There is a study however, mentioned in Mind and Maze: Spatial Cognition and Environmental Behavior written by Ann Sloan, which showed results where women 'on average' were able to find an object faster, and more accurately than men.
@Gizgal
To say that is to be grossly misinformed. The way that the male and female brain is hardwired, whilst not as significant as the difference between a monkeys and a dogs brain, are different. For example, the part of the brain where communication is processed (forgive me, I can't remember what its called), is slightly larger in women than it is in men. And, in general, women are better communicator's than men are.
Women also have a larger gap between the left and right hemispheres of their brain then men do.
Another example is that women are able to pick up a larger range, and had a greater sensitivity to smells than men do, despite the fact that both men and women have the same nose structure. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1796447.stm if you wish to read more)
Whilst I do agree that the way people are raised has a greater effect on their personalities and intelligence, I am going to have to say that science and human biology tell us that men and women are 'hardwired' differently.
That's not an on/off switch. That's called moving on. There is a difference then slowly getting over something than switching it on/off.
And not only men are capable of this. Everyone is capable of this. Again, highly sexist to state that.
As for you saying men weren't clingy. You didn't directly. But by going on about how women were all about that and much more, you are indirectly implying they didn't do the same things.
Which is completely inaccurate and again, highly sexist to even be saying that.
As for your study. I am well aware that there is some differences that women and men adapted due to their previously assigned roles.
However, suggesting that they are wired differently? Not that much you know. Especially when you are trying to apply the "Well women use little signs because of such and such." No, that's not due to anything like them being wired differently. That's why I called you asinine. Because you were attempting to use something irrelevant to make these grandiose claims that are outright bullshit.
A woman does not use hints and vague meanings because they are "wired" differently. That does not exist and does not happen. Stop trying to use irrelevant information to explain something.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
KnowsNoNoseBleed wrote...
Imma gonna leave this here
In my case she get all of it... i can't even buy a new laptop because she say no.