[Locked] Sex keeps getting younger!!
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Gravity cat
the adequately amused
Chagagnon wrote...
All this advice is wonderful but the fact remains she is with a man that is 19. Something needs to be done. This is not a Fakku doujinshi where banging that 14 year old is hot (which is still disgusting). I'm not saying be controlling and she is going to do what she is going to do but she needs to be shown that is unacceptable. Again when she hits 18 there will be PLENTY of time for that. Whoa there; as far as we all know all they're doing at the moment is blowjobs which isn't quite on the same level as sex.
Even if they were fucking, if you ask me the whole "legal age" arguement is null and void. No matter what a country says is the "legal age" for sex, there will be those who do it under the age of consent anyway out of curiosity. Do they or their partner get in trouble for admitting it drunkenly/openly 6 years later? Likely not, unless the girl is fucked in the head and claimed they got raped by the guy as some sort of fucked up "revenge", or they got caught by an overprotective parent. Not only that but most of the time the law favours women, which is just a fine example of how poorly the laws are handled and how biased it can be.
Plus OP could live in an area that the age of consent is actually 16, so she doesn't have long to wait anyway. Read this article to see the age of consent between states in the U.S, because I'm assuming that's where the OP lives.
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While i do agree with the whole educating her about STD's(I would recommend telling your sister she has to make the guy take a test for ALL possible std's) and birth control, i have to admit the age difference here troubles me a bit.
This is mainly because a older guy(One who has gone through puberty already) would have easier time pressuring a 14 year old into sex than someone her age. And during that age most people are just trying to figure out who they are, so they might not know hot to resist pressure. I think perhaps asking your sister if this is her decision, or if its something the guy is telling her to do would be wise,and can be done i a way that doesn't make her feel slut shamed
This is mainly because a older guy(One who has gone through puberty already) would have easier time pressuring a 14 year old into sex than someone her age. And during that age most people are just trying to figure out who they are, so they might not know hot to resist pressure. I think perhaps asking your sister if this is her decision, or if its something the guy is telling her to do would be wise,and can be done i a way that doesn't make her feel slut shamed
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James was 5 years older than me, and we started dating when I was 15. It was mutual real love, and we would've fucked regardless. You just need to exercise discretion and provide advice and precautionary measures. Obviously I'm not saying this thing is ADVISABLE, it's obviously NOT, but it's not something you can stop if you wanted to. Teenagers will screw whom they choose to, parents and siblings be damned.
All you can do is say your piece, offer help and to buy or aid in the acquisition of birth control, and agree to a code of discretion.
All you can do is say your piece, offer help and to buy or aid in the acquisition of birth control, and agree to a code of discretion.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And you are absolutely right Lolli that kids will do what they wish. Even more so when told not to. I stand firm, on being an older brother, I would certainly let it be known that It is a poor choice. She is 15, love is not what she should be focused on regardless. Allow her to be an independent woman with good morals. And as much as I have to respect your view of OKing being with someone 4 years older, she isn't even fully developed at this point. Emotionally and chemically she is all over the place. I met my girlfriend at 13, lost it at 14 and am still with her 10 years later. We are married and have a child. But she was the same age. We were both on the same level of "ooo whats this and that". The 19 year old clearly knows what is going on and what he is after. As the older brother you are there for guidance and help. No, not to control but to put in your concern and love.
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I'll be honest and state that my girlfriend is actually four years younger than me, but she's at 18 right now and going on 19 in April. I don't disagree with the age difference, but I do feel that it shouldn't be happening this early at all. I would not suggest beating up all her boyfriends per se, but I highly recommend scaring the shit out of them if they don't respect her whatsoever. I'm lucky enough that my little sister is really young, but when the time for all that comes, you can bet your ass that I'll be suspicious of her interests...
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Well I tried but this asshole keeps coming over every time my sister is off. She even missed school today and guess who's here? For some reason my entire family thinks this is ok saying "I should mind my own business she's not stupid" yet I caught her and this guy doing this 3 times already. The funny thing is now I'm being threaten to get kicked out and escorted by the police because I'm trying to protect my sister. (No I'm not being violent towards anybody I'm just trying to explain. They're threatening to call the police because I keep talking about me not trusting this guy.)
I think I see their relationship as lust not love.
I think I see their relationship as lust not love.
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I really would like to know why I got neg repped.
OP:
I think it's time for a hail-mary. Call an emergency family meeting with everyone but aforementioned sister and calmly [passionately, if necessary. Don't yell, stomp, or wave your arms, and least of all accuse] explain your side of the story, and what you've seen, and the behaviors attributing to your lack of trust.
Ultimately, adolescence is the single most important time in a person's life, next to infancy. This is the time that the brain is developing the most, next to aforementioned period of early childhood. This is when hormones are surging, brains are doing the most growing, and people begin to get an idea of who they are.
It's this period that they need plenty of time for independence and focus on academia. Sex and relationships, while a natural part of this process, should always come latter to the necessary aspects; school, friends, family. It's foolhardy to believe you can get her to stop altogether, but if she's actually missing school to be with this guy, [/i]it's intervention time[/i].
The absolute worst they can do is follow through with their threat of kicking you out, in which case... your family has clearly lost their mind, and are simply not a positive role in yours or your sister's life. Which... really, really sucks... but it's not exactly completely abnormal. All of our families are screwed up -- Congratulations, you --like me-- have won the lottery on that bit.
OP:
I think it's time for a hail-mary. Call an emergency family meeting with everyone but aforementioned sister and calmly [passionately, if necessary. Don't yell, stomp, or wave your arms, and least of all accuse] explain your side of the story, and what you've seen, and the behaviors attributing to your lack of trust.
Ultimately, adolescence is the single most important time in a person's life, next to infancy. This is the time that the brain is developing the most, next to aforementioned period of early childhood. This is when hormones are surging, brains are doing the most growing, and people begin to get an idea of who they are.
It's this period that they need plenty of time for independence and focus on academia. Sex and relationships, while a natural part of this process, should always come latter to the necessary aspects; school, friends, family. It's foolhardy to believe you can get her to stop altogether, but if she's actually missing school to be with this guy, [/i]it's intervention time[/i].
The absolute worst they can do is follow through with their threat of kicking you out, in which case... your family has clearly lost their mind, and are simply not a positive role in yours or your sister's life. Which... really, really sucks... but it's not exactly completely abnormal. All of our families are screwed up -- Congratulations, you --like me-- have won the lottery on that bit.
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All I can say this, young people are bound to explore their sexuality and there is almost nothing we can do about it except talk it out and make ourselves more conscious about it. Your sister is not a whore, rather a person who she took an interest in and decided to experiment her sexuality with him.
I have an older sister, and the thought of her doing that with a guy she isn't married too just enrages me, however we can never know that because there might have been times they did it and we don't even know about it. So in the end just talk it out and leave her alone, there isn't much you can do in this case.
Good advice, just don't expect it and leave it alone, you are just mentally inflicting pain on yourself, the one who is getting hurt is you, so don't sweat it.
If you really wanna be a help, teach her how immoral it is and how you would rather see her kiss a guy she loves and is married to than have such activities with random guys that will leave you in the end. You are the older bro, so teach her about life.
I don't know much to write in this matter, have 2 younger bros and one older sis, however I also find it immoral how my bros are sleeping with random chicks and not living a normal life filled with love and respect ... but it happens.
Again, don't make it a bigger issue than it already is, just talk it out, explain her the truth in everything, and that's it.
I feel your pain, that is why I am only telling you what is right ... sure it isn't the best solution, but leaving them alone is the best solution for us ... and besides, if nobody cares about your worries, then fuck them and live your own life .... you don't have to carry their bullshit, carry your own.
Let her make mistakes and she will probably approach you first realizing she was dumb, be soft and gentle, but also smart and kinda strict with her .. however if you do have the feeling that shit is getting serious, then you gotta be prepared to get your hands dirty.
I have an older sister, and the thought of her doing that with a guy she isn't married too just enrages me, however we can never know that because there might have been times they did it and we don't even know about it. So in the end just talk it out and leave her alone, there isn't much you can do in this case.
Good advice, just don't expect it and leave it alone, you are just mentally inflicting pain on yourself, the one who is getting hurt is you, so don't sweat it.
If you really wanna be a help, teach her how immoral it is and how you would rather see her kiss a guy she loves and is married to than have such activities with random guys that will leave you in the end. You are the older bro, so teach her about life.
I don't know much to write in this matter, have 2 younger bros and one older sis, however I also find it immoral how my bros are sleeping with random chicks and not living a normal life filled with love and respect ... but it happens.
Again, don't make it a bigger issue than it already is, just talk it out, explain her the truth in everything, and that's it.
I feel your pain, that is why I am only telling you what is right ... sure it isn't the best solution, but leaving them alone is the best solution for us ... and besides, if nobody cares about your worries, then fuck them and live your own life .... you don't have to carry their bullshit, carry your own.
Let her make mistakes and she will probably approach you first realizing she was dumb, be soft and gentle, but also smart and kinda strict with her .. however if you do have the feeling that shit is getting serious, then you gotta be prepared to get your hands dirty.
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Do your parents know the full details?
I agree with court jester with the point he makes.
This may be cold advice but I will put my 10 cents in: Only thing I can say is have a conversation with her tell her what you think and any advice that should be said, Talk to the guy one on one what you think and be blunt. After your conversations and opinions are said and done and any realistic decisions/options are done, steel yourself for what may happen step back and observe. What will happen will happen, you tried what you could, some people will not learn except for first hand experience or a closely known example, you can't help those that don't want help. If things go well that is great, if they go poorly and you see clear signs of it be ready to help. Sometimes the last options are not the great options but when it comes to it, be ready and keep a clear head.
I agree with court jester with the point he makes.
This may be cold advice but I will put my 10 cents in: Only thing I can say is have a conversation with her tell her what you think and any advice that should be said, Talk to the guy one on one what you think and be blunt. After your conversations and opinions are said and done and any realistic decisions/options are done, steel yourself for what may happen step back and observe. What will happen will happen, you tried what you could, some people will not learn except for first hand experience or a closely known example, you can't help those that don't want help. If things go well that is great, if they go poorly and you see clear signs of it be ready to help. Sometimes the last options are not the great options but when it comes to it, be ready and keep a clear head.
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If your sister is starting to miss school because of him then he may be a problem for your sister or may be a bad influence on her. They can call the cops on you, but they will be wasting their time since you have not done anything to bring about the cops. I understand your position since I am also a brother, but there are times when you just have to let go and let things happen if your family or sister thinks you are a pest. Again, try talking with your whole family.
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This guy sounds like trouble, at 19 they usually have that one goal in mind and your sister being 15 isn't thinking about the future consequences which DO exist, thing is you will sound like a bore when you try and talk to her about these things but when I was that age (not long ago) I didn't think about the future consequences either, but it's honestly something that kids nowadays should have in mind.
It doesn't look like your family knows this guy,and if he only stays locked with your sister in her room then it sounds like he's not interested in anything else related to her (smells like meaningless fooling around to me). If it were my sister I'd probably see red and kick his goddamn head in, but that would only make matters worse.
The best thing to do is to talk to your sister, tell her you're worried about her and you're scared this guy might end up hurting her. Have a casual chat, giving her a lecture isn't gonna do anything but make her think you're a square like your parents. You could mention that boyfriends come and go and therefore it's better to focus on her education and not get into anything too serious/dangerous. Provide her with some condoms (better safe than sorry)and just tell her if she needs anything ,has any questions and stuff she can come to you.Act like a brother and a friend and not a parent. Cultivating a healthy relationship with your sister can only benefit both you and hopefully create a bond of trust between you.
Best of luck.
It doesn't look like your family knows this guy,and if he only stays locked with your sister in her room then it sounds like he's not interested in anything else related to her (smells like meaningless fooling around to me). If it were my sister I'd probably see red and kick his goddamn head in, but that would only make matters worse.
The best thing to do is to talk to your sister, tell her you're worried about her and you're scared this guy might end up hurting her. Have a casual chat, giving her a lecture isn't gonna do anything but make her think you're a square like your parents. You could mention that boyfriends come and go and therefore it's better to focus on her education and not get into anything too serious/dangerous. Provide her with some condoms (better safe than sorry)and just tell her if she needs anything ,has any questions and stuff she can come to you.Act like a brother and a friend and not a parent. Cultivating a healthy relationship with your sister can only benefit both you and hopefully create a bond of trust between you.
Best of luck.
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Get the police involved or something, this guy is 19 and doing all this shit with your 15 year old sister? What a creepy motherfucker, creepier than your icon and that's pretty fucking creepy. He could be saying that he loves her but can't be with her because of age difference to get her to give it up and if this is the only guy then I don't think your sister is a "whore", I think that she's just a teen being badly influenced by a corrupted adult. Sorry if this is just further scaring you but something needs to be done, I know you're trying but if you can't get your family to agree with you or anything, take this into your own hands.
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lol at a 19 year old being an adult and teens are influenced by their peers than any. But seriously, talk some sense into her. Don't found age differences creepy if both parties are post-pubescent and not mentally impaired, but the fact they he is with a high-schooler does produce eye rolls.
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You guys do realize that women used to be married off before or right after their first period right? Twelve year old girls have been having children since the dawn of time. Now I'm not saying they are emotionally ready (especially now days) but don't claim sex is getting younger. We have less teens having sex than people seem to think; only 48% of teens actually have sex. (thank you psychology)
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BIG-BOB wrote...
Well I tried but this asshole keeps coming over every time my sister is off. She even missed school today and guess who's here? For some reason my entire family thinks this is ok saying "I should mind my own business she's not stupid" yet I caught her and this guy doing this 3 times already. The funny thing is now I'm being threaten to get kicked out and escorted by the police because I'm trying to protect my sister. (No I'm not being violent towards anybody I'm just trying to explain. They're threatening to call the police because I keep talking about me not trusting this guy.)I think I see their relationship as lust not love.
It's pretty obvious what happens here bro. She ends up knocked up at 16 and this guy disappears.
Lol at everyone saying be supportive, that's probably how teen pregnancies occur, because everyone is so supportive. Let her know she's gonna be a whore who has to take care of a screaming infant. (whore part is optional)
And this guy obviously just wants to get his dick wet. When i was in highschool the guys my age 17-18 talked about how easy it is to score with younger girls. Because they are all "im a responsible now and i know what true love is" and they are determined to find true love and believe they have it with every guy they date. So they are easy to take advantage of, a few "i love yous" and... well you know firsthand.
TL:DR Good job trying to be a good brother, but it's not a fight you can win alone. Shes gonna end up preggers ur gonna be ashamed.
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Assuming this ain't a troll thread, I find far more alarming the fact, that two guys older than the discussed 15YO are acting much more immaturely.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
Make her develop a nii-san fetish and use that to make sure she never wants to go out with other guys protecting her forever.
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Gravity cat
the adequately amused
This thread's still active a year later and keeps getting bumped?