Should the Goku vs Superman Death Battle be removed/edited?
What action do you think should happen?
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Before we begin, if this topic ends up being moved to another forum, I completely understand. I really had no idea where to put this, so I made a leap of faith and chose 'random.'
Anyway, Death Battle has been known for being able to solve many disputes between fandoms, their most requested and watched one being Goku vs Superman. However, in an article posted on Screwattacks website, it would seem that all of the information in relation to both Goku and Superman was not completely totaled accurately, giving Superman a false win.
Speaking not just from my fanboy side, but by my realistic side as well, they need to remove this episode due to it's inaccuracies. Sure, it's just two fictitious characters whom would probably never cross paths in any of their continuities, but when you have a show that prides itself on 'analyzing their weapons, armors, and skills to determine who would win a Death Battle,' you can't really afford to make mistakes. This causes people to doubt you, which will cause a drop in ratings -if it persists long enough.
Anyway, Death Battle has been known for being able to solve many disputes between fandoms, their most requested and watched one being Goku vs Superman. However, in an article posted on Screwattacks website, it would seem that all of the information in relation to both Goku and Superman was not completely totaled accurately, giving Superman a false win.
Speaking not just from my fanboy side, but by my realistic side as well, they need to remove this episode due to it's inaccuracies. Sure, it's just two fictitious characters whom would probably never cross paths in any of their continuities, but when you have a show that prides itself on 'analyzing their weapons, armors, and skills to determine who would win a Death Battle,' you can't really afford to make mistakes. This causes people to doubt you, which will cause a drop in ratings -if it persists long enough.
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
Mistakes can happen. Suck it up and watch the other ones. To me, Death Battle was never really about making accurate battles. It's about making entertaining battles with all the powers taken into account of, and then just deciding the winner randomly, and giving them a "logical" reason for why they won. If you ask me, Wiz and Boomstick figured they might as well throw it out there just because fans wanted it, not because they wanted to. Maybe that's why it seems so "half-assed" to you.
Another problem I see with this is that Goku was just given a new form in a recent DBZ movie, and Superman comics are continuously made, with no one ever knowing how much the limit will be expanded in an issue. It's kind of stupid to just keep adding to that, if you ask me.
tl;dr you guys just wanted Goku vs Superman, you got that. No one said it had to be accurate or good. Deal with it.
Another problem I see with this is that Goku was just given a new form in a recent DBZ movie, and Superman comics are continuously made, with no one ever knowing how much the limit will be expanded in an issue. It's kind of stupid to just keep adding to that, if you ask me.
tl;dr you guys just wanted Goku vs Superman, you got that. No one said it had to be accurate or good. Deal with it.
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Superman- [size=29]LITERALLY[/h]- cannot die. They re re-spec however many times they want, Goku wouldn't have the knowledge to mine a rock for this very specific gem that can weaken Superman.
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artcellrox wrote...
Mistakes can happen. Suck it up and watch the other ones. To me, Death Battle was never really about making accurate battles. It's about making entertaining battles with all the powers taken into account of, and then just deciding the winner randomly, and giving them a "logical" reason for why they won. If you ask me, Wiz and Boomstick figured they might as well throw it out there just because fans wanted it, not because they wanted to. Maybe that's why it seems so "half-assed" to you.Another problem I see with this is that Goku was just given a new form in a recent DBZ movie, and Superman comics are continuously made, with no one ever knowing how much the limit will be expanded in an issue. It's kind of stupid to just keep adding to that, if you ask me.
tl;dr you guys just wanted Goku vs Superman, you got that. No one said it had to be accurate or good. Deal with it.
Actually, having both is what makes Death Battle what it is; the accuracy they have with judging who would be the winner because of everything they bring to the fight. It's not a 'random selection' over who would win, but actual science. Also, in the video, they did talk about Super Sayin God Mode, but then they would also have to introduce Supermans God Mode as well.
Medzy wrote...
Superman- [size=29]LITERALLY[/h]- cannot die. They re re-spec however many times they want, Goku wouldn't have the knowledge to mine a rock for this very specific gem that can weaken Superman.Superman is not immortal. He can still die, even without the use of Kryptonite.
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Gravity cat
the adequately amused
Medzy wrote...
Goku wouldn't have the knowledge to mine a rock for this very specific gem that can weaken Superman.Instead he can just blow it the fuck up
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To preface, I haven't seen the show, but inaccuracies are commonplace in almost everything. It's nothing to get too worked up about though. From the information I have, it seems to at least attempt to follow the scientific method (experimentation obviously can't happen), your criticism is peer review, which if orchestrated well, can cause at least a serious reconsideration. Consider that Newtonian physics has been almost invalidated by modernphysics, but it is still respected because the conclusions were tested and at the scale and speed at which we live our lives, and more importantly, tested honestly and objectively to the right furthest ranges feasible, cut them some slack...
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I would say just leave it alone. It's not really meant to take seriously and it's more fanservice if anything.
Besides that it really doesn't make sense to make characters from different universes battle each other because the rules are different.
Besides that it really doesn't make sense to make characters from different universes battle each other because the rules are different.
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yummines wrote...
I would say just leave it alone. It's not really meant to take seriously and it's more fanservice if anything. Besides that it really doesn't make sense to make characters from different universes battle each other because the rules are different.
But honestly this is so interesting
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
Sneakyone wrote...
This has been beat to death and I wish I had the powerlevel ranking handy so I could post it.Which one, though?

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Sneakyone wrote...
This has been beat to death and I wish I had the powerlevel ranking handy so I could post it.The only problem with using power levels is that Akira Toriyama said it himself that they were arbritrary
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Please_don't_ban_me wrote...
Consider that Newtonian physics has been almost invalidated by modern physicsPlease explain this further
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goku is a bitch first of all he gets his ass kicked to like every new boss that comes out and superman only has one weakness
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brok3n butterfly wrote...
Please_don't_ban_me wrote...
Consider that Newtonian physics has been almost invalidated by modern physicsPlease explain this further
When you get to the subatomic scale or when you get closer to the speed of light, the causes and effects of Newtonian theory don't quite match up, I'm not terribly good at explaining it myself, I don't have the background to do so, so I won't really try. Pick up a copy of "The Universe in a Nutshell" by Stephen Hawking, or watch one of the many youtubers who do this sort of thing (I recommend "Minute Physics" personally, his format is very easy to follow). Newtonian physics is more of an approximate though, it isn't wrong necessarily, but it isn't spot on...
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Please_don't_ban_me wrote...
brok3n butterfly wrote...
Please_don't_ban_me wrote...
Consider that Newtonian physics has been almost invalidated by modern physicsPlease explain this further
When you get to the subatomic scale or when you get closer to the speed of light,
That makes sense now. Newtonian mechanics was never intended for near light speed or sub-stomic scale use anyways. The way you worded it earlier made it sound like I should expect a car to bend space-time. (Delorean's aside)
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brok3n butterfly wrote...
Please_don't_ban_me wrote...
brok3n butterfly wrote...
Please_don't_ban_me wrote...
Consider that Newtonian physics has been almost invalidated by modern physicsPlease explain this further
When you get to the subatomic scale or when you get closer to the speed of light,
That makes sense now. Newtonian mechanics was never intended for near light speed or sub-stomic scale use anyways. The way you worded it earlier made it sound like I should expect a car to bend space-time. (Delorean's aside)
I really ought to reread things before I send them, sorry to disappoint...
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AnimeModerator wrote...
goku is a bitch first of all he gets his ass kicked to like every new boss that comes out and superman only has one weaknessActually, he has 3.
Kryptonite, Magic, and Lack of a yellow sun.
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Fadetoblack wrote...
Superman is not immortal. He can still die, even without the use of Kryptonite.
Not having read EVERYTHING, I'll just go on record asking has he ever died? The only time I ever saw "the death of Superman" his heart was just beating really, really quiet.
And I don't believe this battle should even exist, as it implies completely changing both characters to the point where they would actually fight to the death. This, in essence, changes both characters to the point that they are no longer Goku and Superman, and you should instead just say "random saiyan" and "random Kryptonian" fighting to the death.
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ecchigaijin wrote...
Fadetoblack wrote...
Superman is not immortal. He can still die, even without the use of Kryptonite.
Not having read EVERYTHING, I'll just go on record asking has he ever died? The only time I ever saw "the death of Superman" his heart was just beating really, really quiet.
No. He's come really close to death, but has always been saved because he was close to a yellow sun (or some other cheap reason)