So whose looking for to the 5th of novemeber
Yes Destroy Facebook
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This is nothing but terrorism. Onslaught was justified but this is just disgusting extremist circles disrupting people's lives,terrifying them of the unity and equality we seek, not all share the same view, we are normal people like you.
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This saddens me.
I don't really care about Facebook though. I'm sad because there are still idiots out there quoting V for Vendetta and acting like they're awesome and "fighting the man."
Maybe it's because I've matured, hell, I've simply grown up, since that V for Vendetta monologue and mask were appropriated by people calling themselves "Anonymous," that I expect these people would, too. That's obviously not the case though.
Are they still trying to take down Scientology? God, I hope not. That was the stupidest shit ever. Live protests with V masks, ugh.
I don't really care about Facebook though. I'm sad because there are still idiots out there quoting V for Vendetta and acting like they're awesome and "fighting the man."
Maybe it's because I've matured, hell, I've simply grown up, since that V for Vendetta monologue and mask were appropriated by people calling themselves "Anonymous," that I expect these people would, too. That's obviously not the case though.
Are they still trying to take down Scientology? God, I hope not. That was the stupidest shit ever. Live protests with V masks, ugh.
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Facebook is a damn fine website, but I can live without it for a day, which is all a massive DDoS will achieve.
The majority of people above me are retarded though, just putting that out there. Anons have united for some admirable causes, not least Scientology, who they undoubtedly took down a peg. Those guys leech money from the vulnerable, indoctrinate their followers and have committed manslaughter. They got massive media coverage off the back of that. And the recent attacks on payment companies for pulling funds from Wikileaks...how can you honestly object to things like that?
The means are sometimes questionable, but at least these people have opinions and are not afraid to voice them, unlike a whole lot of 'regular' people just trying to get on with their day to day lives, with no care for the rest of the world or consideration of the injustices that take place in the institutions of power.
At the very least they are presenting an obstacle to governments which cannot be easily de-constructed. In my book, just being an activist and having a cause to fight for elevates you above the rank and file, even if I disagree with the particulars completely.
If they pull this off, it won't just be for the lulz. They will put out messages stating the reasons they did it, and a few more people might sit up and take notice of the threat - however each person perceives it - to our privacy in this day and age.
The majority of people above me are retarded though, just putting that out there. Anons have united for some admirable causes, not least Scientology, who they undoubtedly took down a peg. Those guys leech money from the vulnerable, indoctrinate their followers and have committed manslaughter. They got massive media coverage off the back of that. And the recent attacks on payment companies for pulling funds from Wikileaks...how can you honestly object to things like that?
The means are sometimes questionable, but at least these people have opinions and are not afraid to voice them, unlike a whole lot of 'regular' people just trying to get on with their day to day lives, with no care for the rest of the world or consideration of the injustices that take place in the institutions of power.
At the very least they are presenting an obstacle to governments which cannot be easily de-constructed. In my book, just being an activist and having a cause to fight for elevates you above the rank and file, even if I disagree with the particulars completely.
If they pull this off, it won't just be for the lulz. They will put out messages stating the reasons they did it, and a few more people might sit up and take notice of the threat - however each person perceives it - to our privacy in this day and age.
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doswillrule wrote...
Facebook is a damn fine website, but I can live without it for a day, which is all a massive DDoS will achieve.The majority of people above me are retarded though, just putting that out there. Anons have united for some admirable causes, not least Scientology, who they undoubtedly took down a peg. Those guys leech money from the vulnerable, indoctrinate their followers and have committed manslaughter. They got massive media coverage off the back of that. And the recent attacks on payment companies for pulling funds from Wikileaks...how can you honestly object to things like that?
The means are sometimes questionable, but at least these people have opinions and are not afraid to voice them, unlike a whole lot of 'regular' people just trying to get on with their day to day lives, with no care for the rest of the world or consideration of the injustices that take place in the institutions of power.
At the very least they are presenting an obstacle to governments which cannot be easily de-constructed. In my book, just being an activist and having a cause to fight for elevates you above the rank and file, even if I disagree with the particulars completely.
If they pull this off, it won't just be for the lulz. They will put out messages stating the reasons they did it, and a few more people might sit up and take notice of the threat - however each person perceives it - to our privacy in this day and age.
Protesting is fine, and even protesting from the shadows is fine, but putting on a mask and trying to act cool is just attention whoring. Anonymous used to not have to release a rhyming message saying that they were going to fuck up a site; they'd just do it, and everyone would either know or assume that Anonymous did it.
Protesting Scientology was stupid because they were taking on a religious organization; there wasn't anything they could really do. Besides, South Park and the internet in general had already exposed the stupidity of Scientology. "Anonymous" was just trying to get attention. They jumped on the bandwagon and did live protests to get even more attention.
Attacking Facebook is just trolling; they're doing it to piss people off. If protesting hackers seriously thought Facebook needed to be destroyed, they wouldn't wait until a specific day and notify everybody of what they were planning to do and when they were planning to do it.
"Anonymous" is just a bunch of kids that like to act high and mighty to compensate for how worthless they feel their lives are. They're not real protesters, and they're not serious.
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Not sure if you know how websites work, so I'm going to put it in simple terms. They cannot permanently take down facebook. Maybe for a few days at most, but not permanently.
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They're also not hackers, a word which gives you about as much validity talking about this as the media.
Anonymous prevented the infamous Tom Cruise video from being taken down from various sites, promoted it, and pushed their message into the mainstream press, which would have been the first time many people had heard of the organisation. They also attempted to have the IRS investigate the 'Church's' right to tax-exempt status.
Saying that protesting something is 'stupid' on the basis that it wouldn't have any effect, and that individuals were making the effort to stage peaceful protests so as to 'bandwagon for attention' is stupidity of the highest order and completely undermined by the amount of publicity they received.
I don't think taking Facebook down for a day will achieve anything significant, but there is a point to be made about internet privacy, cloud storage etcetera which will no doubt be put out by Anonymous and expanded on by newspaper columnists, as was the case with the Scientology protests. I remember reading numerous articles about that on the BBC and in the NYT at the time, and combined with their actions in the Wikileaks saga, they have become a household name (my old technophobe teacher and my mum have heard of them).
Whether all of them share the motives that they advertise is irrelevant; some of them undoubtedly do. You only have to consider the risk of involvement with the recent LulzSec arrests, or read some of the things that Topiary and others said, to realise that there are intelligent individuals among the hordes who do hold, and are looking to uphold, genuine beliefs.
Anonymous prevented the infamous Tom Cruise video from being taken down from various sites, promoted it, and pushed their message into the mainstream press, which would have been the first time many people had heard of the organisation. They also attempted to have the IRS investigate the 'Church's' right to tax-exempt status.
Saying that protesting something is 'stupid' on the basis that it wouldn't have any effect, and that individuals were making the effort to stage peaceful protests so as to 'bandwagon for attention' is stupidity of the highest order and completely undermined by the amount of publicity they received.
I don't think taking Facebook down for a day will achieve anything significant, but there is a point to be made about internet privacy, cloud storage etcetera which will no doubt be put out by Anonymous and expanded on by newspaper columnists, as was the case with the Scientology protests. I remember reading numerous articles about that on the BBC and in the NYT at the time, and combined with their actions in the Wikileaks saga, they have become a household name (my old technophobe teacher and my mum have heard of them).
Whether all of them share the motives that they advertise is irrelevant; some of them undoubtedly do. You only have to consider the risk of involvement with the recent LulzSec arrests, or read some of the things that Topiary and others said, to realise that there are intelligent individuals among the hordes who do hold, and are looking to uphold, genuine beliefs.