U.S. Senate proposing new anti-piracy bill.
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-09-22/new-anti-piracy-bill-proposed-in-u.s-senate
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Well, this might suck.
Here's the Electronic Frontier Foundation's (EFF) reaction to the bill.
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/09/censorship-internet-takes-center-stage-online
Snippits from the article here...
The bill would allow the Attorney General to pursue restraining orders, preliminary injunctions, and injunctions against websites that have "no demonstrable, commercially significant purpose or use other than" copyright-infringing activities. The bill would also allow these actions to be pursued against such websites in rem — meaning that the website itself can be treated as the defendant rather than its owner. This would also allow the government to pursue sites whose owners may not be within the United States' jurisdiction, if the site knowingly provides infringing content within the United States.
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Well, this might suck.
Here's the Electronic Frontier Foundation's (EFF) reaction to the bill.
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/09/censorship-internet-takes-center-stage-online
Snippits from the article here...
The bill would also create two Internet blacklists. The first is a list of all the websites hit with a censorship court order from the Attorney General. The second, more worrying, blacklist is a list of domain names that the Department of Justice determines — without judicial review — are "dedicated to infringing activities." The bill only requires blocking for domains in the first list, but strongly suggests that domains on the second list should be blocked as well by providing legal immunity for Internet intermediaries and DNS operators who decide to block domains on the second blacklist as well.
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Moreover, it seems easy to get on the blacklist — the bill sets up a seemingly streamlined procedure for adding domains (including a McCarthy-like procedure of public snitching) — but in contrast, it seems difficult to get off the list, with a cumbersome process to have a blacklisted domain removed.
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Moreover, it seems easy to get on the blacklist — the bill sets up a seemingly streamlined procedure for adding domains (including a McCarthy-like procedure of public snitching) — but in contrast, it seems difficult to get off the list, with a cumbersome process to have a blacklisted domain removed.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
Wait what, a report saying that piracy cost 200,000 jobs in the american music/movie industry?
Did they pull that number out of their ass or something?
Did they pull that number out of their ass or something?
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Kalistean wrote...
Wait what, a report saying that piracy cost 200,000 jobs in the american music/movie industry?Did they pull that number out of their ass or something?
Probably lawl... XD Actually no, I read something about it but surely that "report" was somehow glorified.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
They're probably only looking at it from the viewpoint of the money piracy hypothetically costs them.
Of course that number would be largely balooned for their report to seem important.
But I'm pretty certain they wouldn't have bothered to include the money that actually comes in because of the piracy. I don't think it would be a straight even cut-off by any means. But I think it does generate at least 50% of the amount that it is said to cost.
Of course that number would be largely balooned for their report to seem important.
But I'm pretty certain they wouldn't have bothered to include the money that actually comes in because of the piracy. I don't think it would be a straight even cut-off by any means. But I think it does generate at least 50% of the amount that it is said to cost.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
Hard to say.
Might depend on how cooperative other countries will be with this action.
Might depend on how cooperative other countries will be with this action.
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Doesn't matter. That was the point of making the website itself a defendant in a case and not the owner. Before, if you lived overseas then you're out of US jurisdiction. Now they are going to target your website, so at the very least you'll be blocked in the US.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
I get that it'll be an easier distinction.
But I dunno if it would be as easy as just that is all.
But I dunno if it would be as easy as just that is all.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
You can try to stop it but the pirate's will still win... can't stop the interwebs.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
Pretty much. Trying to change things like this will just make people bite back harder.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
You can try to stop it but the pirate's will still win... can't stop the interwebs.I don't think they are trying to stop the pirates, they are trying to stop how they distribute.
The idea seems to be that while people will still pirate, the majority of people will find it too much of a hassle. A lot of people wouldn't know what to do if they couldn't stream anime - even if ddl and IRC were still available.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
i remember back in the day, when you wanted to get anime or manga, your sources were swap meets, clubs, stores back rooms... i still have the stuff on vcd, third gen copy vhs, laser disks and fan sub pic cd's... now it all online and if someone wants it it can be found.
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Kalistean wrote...
Wait what, a report saying that piracy cost 200,000 jobs in the american music/movie industry?Did they pull that number out of their ass or something?
Everytime someone downloads a movie the company loses the movie cost to the power of N. Where N is the highest possible number the MAFIAA think they can get away, without a judge calling on their bullshit.
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Hmm, interesting legal interpretation they have there. I have to give them credit for twisting that in their favor despite how I feel about piracy and anti-piracy measures. That might actually work in attempting to prosecute individuals who try to scapegoat by having their servers based outside of the United States.
Oh well, I have to admit I'm not much of a pirate anymore, so I can't honestly say I'm so fervently against anti-piracy measures anymore. However, that is an awfully broad scope we are talking about. Despite the cookie-cutter words people might use, all hentai sites are based around a level of "impromptu" piracy - even Fakku.
However, like everyone is/will point out. They have bigger fish to fry. Music and computer programs being the big two. Anime, manga and hentai simply isn't high on their "to do" list.
Oh well, I have to admit I'm not much of a pirate anymore, so I can't honestly say I'm so fervently against anti-piracy measures anymore. However, that is an awfully broad scope we are talking about. Despite the cookie-cutter words people might use, all hentai sites are based around a level of "impromptu" piracy - even Fakku.
However, like everyone is/will point out. They have bigger fish to fry. Music and computer programs being the big two. Anime, manga and hentai simply isn't high on their "to do" list.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
it's not a matter of using a proxy, they arent suggesting stopping each individual user from piracy; they want to shut down the sources, torrent sites, torrent programmers, packlists, anything based on US servers (the majority of them). It's a pretty scary bill tbh, even for those of us not living in the United States.
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from what i get of this there trying to basically kill the "supply" (which is pirate sites) while the "demand" for them is still extremely high i mean come on i think through many different times in history we have found out doing this is extremely bad and as opposite effects
but if i understood this wrong sorry
but if i understood this wrong sorry
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Ah another ridiculous anti-piracy bill that gets proposed and that we all have to hear about before it is stalled and and litigated to death when the senate finds out how hard it will be to actually enact the damn thing. More tax money wasted. More annoying news articles to skip before it's either repealed or amended out of effectiveness.
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Hydric wrote...
from what i get of this there trying to basically kill the "supply" (which is pirate sites) while the "demand" for them is still extremely high i mean come on i think through many different times in history we have found out doing this is extremely bad and as opposite effects but if i understood this wrong sorry
look what happened when they blocked alcohol...born was the major crime bosses.
