Winning isn't everything... but it's still relevant

Games were originally created "to entertain us" and "to have fun".

but on the way, we started to develop "must win mind-set" with more competitive games.

for me, If I start to not feel the fun, I just tell my friends straight forwardly and ask to leave the game, if they don't "lower down the fun bar".

So basicly, I want to have fun, not Stress

and it's not fun when you play with a friend who is obviously much better at one game, and he starts going all out on you, disregarding the fact that you're not good at this game.

Sounds like some people confuse winning isn't everything with winning means nothing.

If someone takes winning to seriously, you become a douchebag nobody likes to play with and only finds joy when they are winning. However, I certainly would not want to play or watch something I had so little interest in I didn't care about whether I won or not.

Honestly, I have the most fun when everybody I'm playing with is trying to win. If someone's not giving their 100%, it's a cheapened experience.

"Playing just to have fun" can kiss my ass. If you look up the instructions to a game, it's gonna tell you how to win. Fun is a byproduct.

People that play solely to win and not to have fun have a small pee-pee and need to compensate.

When it comes right down to it, it's about being a good sport. When everyone's playing to win, give it your 100% and nothing less, but when everyone's bullshitting around, don't ruin their fun.

If you're not in the "Play to win" crowd, don't play with the "Play to win" crowd, but don't disparage them for enjoying competition.

Assuming that the "Play to win crowd" will leave you alone, if you don't want to play.

I got friends that is categorized into that crowd that will force me to play and make me lose silly, just for THEIR lulz. They will go like, "let's play for fun" shit, and then blast me with all their might.


You need to remember the fact that gaming is a "Two way game" not one, if you're facing another human.

You can tell "Fun gamers" can go to dumps, just because You don't have many fun gamers as a friend.

Despite the fact that we're in the same subset of gaming, I'd call those people "Assholes" and both camps have their fair share. Those are the kind of people who give the "Play to win" people a bad name and cause people to disparage that crowd. Not everyone who plays to win wants to force people who don't play to win to play their way.

The people who play for fun can and should do whatever they want.

You can't devalue an entire subset of gaming just because of a few bad apples.

I play to win. Why? Because I don't like losing. Will I quit a game that I'm losing? No. I know losing is just another way to get better. Doesn't make me feel any better in that moment though. I have nothing against people who quit cause they're not feeling it. Losing is a frustrating thing, but I will see it through to the end. Even if it pisses me off.

I will not complain about losing due to cheap moves or what not. If it's in the game, it's part of the game. Even if I die by lag, because yes, this happens to everyone. I just had the bad luck of running into it that time.

I don't like losing, cause it meant I loss. Never understood the whole "Well, I did pretty good cause I came in second." Bull-fucking-horse-shit. Second means you lost. There's no getting around that. Always thought that silver and bronze is full of shit. To me, it's just a participation medal. I don't play to lose.

I do have fun when I play. Regardless of winning and losing. But that doesn't mean I won't try to win. Fun is fun and all, but I have my pride and it's telling me to go for gold. Fun is even more fun when you win. Anyone says otherwise is lying to themselves.

Keep in mind, many of the competition games nowadays, when your playing badly, you're only making it worst for your own team.

Leaving is often an option. While if we're up to the point, it's probably already too late since the opposing team will have a huge lead already. But if your team mates are good enough and confident enough, its very possible to make great comebacks. This is how my friends and I play. If someone is lacking, or just having bad day, well..sucks to be him, but we kick him or ask him to leave. It's become common in our games, so it doesn't piss off anyone since, we've been doing it for years. But what did that offer us is, we have a reputation within the games we play of being a great opposing team to be against and getting good challenges.

Btw, I have fun crushing other players. Reason why we play MMO's so much is because we get the opportunity of crushing other players like no tomorrow. HAS for FPS / RTS, we have our selected group players to crush people in those.

Games are for fun. If you aren't having fun, stop playing them. If other people want to bitch they can, but at least you're having more fun than they are. Gaming is not serious business. Also, @Yushi: That can't be good for their self esteem.

Gaming is not serious business? GAMING IS NOT SERIOUS BUSINESS? MONOPOLY, MOTHERFUCKER. MONOPOLY

Monopoly isn't even serious business, it's everyone making poor decisions with their money, and whoever gets chance and luck wins.

Winning isnt everything but it's the only thing that matters.

Many will argue that as long as they're having fun it's okay. In my offense I say no one haves fun when they're constantly being dissed as noobs while they're eating bullets that enemies shoved directly through their throat VIA sniper rifle.

Not only in Modern Warfare, mind you it's very frustrating to lose in other games as well.

I've seen many WoW players accidentally kick their CPUs after their enemies teabag their face while forcing their female blood elves to give the enemy draeneis a blow job after getting raped several times thanks to their idiotic allies.

In summary gaming is a form of competetion itself, and in every competetion losing always sucks.

And that's the end of that.

Well, they don't have much else to do.