Would you do a Batman or a Punisher?
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*Batman sends fear into criminals with the darkness,the unknowing, and send them to jail, yet he never kills any of them.
*Punisher sends fear into criminals with guns, explosion, and sends them to hell, he always kills his bad guys.
Now I am using these guys as examples. What the real question would be is would you send criminals to jail or finish them of? What is your choice?
Mine would be the Punisher's way of dealing with criminals. Now a days the justice system has lack so much against true criminals. And even the gang violence. But I do see that law enforcers do have difficulty with this kind of things. And the consequences of having a Punshier's life is to be a loner and always on the run from the law and the criminals, yet finishing off the rats of the streets would be worth it. Or would it?
So what are your opinions? What path would you choose and what would be the consequences of each path?
*Punisher sends fear into criminals with guns, explosion, and sends them to hell, he always kills his bad guys.
Now I am using these guys as examples. What the real question would be is would you send criminals to jail or finish them of? What is your choice?
Mine would be the Punisher's way of dealing with criminals. Now a days the justice system has lack so much against true criminals. And even the gang violence. But I do see that law enforcers do have difficulty with this kind of things. And the consequences of having a Punshier's life is to be a loner and always on the run from the law and the criminals, yet finishing off the rats of the streets would be worth it. Or would it?
So what are your opinions? What path would you choose and what would be the consequences of each path?
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The whole point of the law is to have people wanting to trust it, if police just went around shooting people who did bad things then people REALLY wouldn't want to deal with them or just take matters into their own hands which is even worse. As for the question being Batman would be better imo since loyalty from the everyday citizens can come from that type of fear placed in the criminals.
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While Frank Castle (The Punisher) may seem like the more bad-ass character --he drives a 1968 Plymouth Road Runner as opposed to Bruce Wayne's Bat-mobile, appeals more relatablely to an average person using weapons that seem plausible as opposed to batarangs and the like, and does, in fact, kill his enemies--- one must recognize that their motivations are almost entirely different. I understand you used these two characters more as a reference point than to serve as a direct comparison, however, I think this really boils down to an inquiry on peoples' position with a death penalty.
I think it takes more courage to be a pacifist than a warrior. But in the case where violence is unavoidable, I think that the man who chooses not to take a life, as opposed to the man who would, is the better one.
A life is something valuable; it is, essentially, the whole of a person's existence. No matter how much wrong a person has done to me, I don't think it would be right to take his existence away, even if he is guilty of doing the same. When a life is taken for the sake of another lost, it doesn't bring back that life and it leaves the burden of taking a life on a person still living --hands thoroughly stained in blood---.
"It's a hell of a thing, killin' a man. Take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have".
--William "Will" Munny (Clint Eastwood) from Unforgiven
I think it takes more courage to be a pacifist than a warrior. But in the case where violence is unavoidable, I think that the man who chooses not to take a life, as opposed to the man who would, is the better one.
A life is something valuable; it is, essentially, the whole of a person's existence. No matter how much wrong a person has done to me, I don't think it would be right to take his existence away, even if he is guilty of doing the same. When a life is taken for the sake of another lost, it doesn't bring back that life and it leaves the burden of taking a life on a person still living --hands thoroughly stained in blood---.
"It's a hell of a thing, killin' a man. Take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have".
--William "Will" Munny (Clint Eastwood) from Unforgiven
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I think it would have been nice if Batman killed Joker as a lee way, that way he could have prevented thousands of people from dying.
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I hate Punisher. he's not a hero. just some loser vigilante who belongs in jail. heroes don't go around murdering with guns.
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Personally I wouldn't go around bashing heads in to get revenge. Considering that both Batman and Punisher can be announced as Vigilante, I wouldn't do either. I'd become part of the mostly or not mostly corrupted law enforcement and deal out justice that way.
Either way, I'm not a person who goes out of the way to get shit done. I sit back and let things unfold. Mostly because I'm lazy. In a way, if I was angry enough I might just go out and deal with something myself, but it hasn't happened yet so I can't say I would.
If I really did have to choose. I would be batman. He has all the cool stuff.
Either way, I'm not a person who goes out of the way to get shit done. I sit back and let things unfold. Mostly because I'm lazy. In a way, if I was angry enough I might just go out and deal with something myself, but it hasn't happened yet so I can't say I would.
If I really did have to choose. I would be batman. He has all the cool stuff.
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Personally I'd do te whole Batman gig, but kill the criminals that actually deserve to die, and leave the lesser ones alive so that they can tell their bosses and incite fear in them, as well. It's a different story when your thugs come tell you that demon came from the dark and dragged their comrades to hell, as opposed to this "this guy comes in, guns blazin' and kills everybody". Actually, it depends on what type of person the leader is, but I'd, personally, use a combo of the their styles and , though I'd prefer the more stealthy, fear inducing approach (in this case), I wouldn't hesitate to use guns when I'd need to.
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Batman
I personally enjoy the challenge, incapacitating people with melee and upholding them. Maybe splinter cell enforced this kind of personality on me, cause to get the highest rating was to actually not kill anyone and perform perfect stealth infiltration (infiltrating an enemy stronghold without leaving a trace, as if you where never there).
Not much of a necrophilia, it's easier to fuck female security guards when their tied up or unconscious. . .
silently of course.
I personally enjoy the challenge, incapacitating people with melee and upholding them. Maybe splinter cell enforced this kind of personality on me, cause to get the highest rating was to actually not kill anyone and perform perfect stealth infiltration (infiltrating an enemy stronghold without leaving a trace, as if you where never there).
Not much of a necrophilia, it's easier to fuck female security guards when their tied up or unconscious. . .
silently of course.
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Finish them off.
They'll only be let out of jail in a few years later any way to do the same shit.
They'll only be let out of jail in a few years later any way to do the same shit.
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
TSPenpin wrote...
The whole point of the law is to have people wanting to trust it, if police just went around shooting people who did bad things then people REALLY wouldn't want to deal with them or just take matters into their own hands which is even worse. As for the question being Batman would be better imo since loyalty from the everyday citizens can come from that type of fear placed in the criminals. to your post, I point you in the direction of Dubai. They execute people who kill and chop the fingers/hands off people who steal.. There is barely ANY crime over there, and for good reason, people don't want to die or lose their hands/fingers. There are upsides and downsides to the law, killing murderers...
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Blackcatdemon wrote...
*Batman sends fear into criminals with the darkness,the unknowing, and send them to jail, yet he never kills any of them.Golden Age Bats says hello.
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Punish criminals, except rapists. Kill those bastards. I couldn't handle making a blanket decision against the majority of criminals. What do I know about their motivations. It'd gnaw away at my brain imagining little orphans and suicidal spouses.
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Batman of course because if you kill a murderer then you become a murderer and because Batman is #1
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Drifter995 wrote...
TSPenpin wrote...
The whole point of the law is to have people wanting to trust it, if police just went around shooting people who did bad things then people REALLY wouldn't want to deal with them or just take matters into their own hands which is even worse. As for the question being Batman would be better imo since loyalty from the everyday citizens can come from that type of fear placed in the criminals. to your post, I point you in the direction of Dubai. They execute people who kill and chop the fingers/hands off people who steal.. There is barely ANY crime over there, and for good reason, people don't want to die or lose their hands/fingers. There are upsides and downsides to the law, killing murderers...
Very true, but you don't have to kill anyone to uphold the law. There are many countries that don't practice chopping of limbs and have pretty decent crime rates. I guess it just depends on the attitudes of the people living in the area.
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TSPenpin wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
TSPenpin wrote...
The whole point of the law is to have people wanting to trust it, if police just went around shooting people who did bad things then people REALLY wouldn't want to deal with them or just take matters into their own hands which is even worse. As for the question being Batman would be better imo since loyalty from the everyday citizens can come from that type of fear placed in the criminals. to your post, I point you in the direction of Dubai. They execute people who kill and chop the fingers/hands off people who steal.. There is barely ANY crime over there, and for good reason, people don't want to die or lose their hands/fingers. There are upsides and downsides to the law, killing murderers...
Very true, but you don't have to kill anyone to uphold the law. There are many countries that don't practice chopping of limbs and have pretty decent crime rates. I guess it just depends on the attitudes of the people living in the area.
While both viewpoints are valid, killing criminals means that there are less people in jail leeching off our tax money.
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PumpJack McGee wrote...
TSPenpin wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
TSPenpin wrote...
The whole point of the law is to have people wanting to trust it, if police just went around shooting people who did bad things then people REALLY wouldn't want to deal with them or just take matters into their own hands which is even worse. As for the question being Batman would be better imo since loyalty from the everyday citizens can come from that type of fear placed in the criminals. to your post, I point you in the direction of Dubai. They execute people who kill and chop the fingers/hands off people who steal.. There is barely ANY crime over there, and for good reason, people don't want to die or lose their hands/fingers. There are upsides and downsides to the law, killing murderers...
Very true, but you don't have to kill anyone to uphold the law. There are many countries that don't practice chopping of limbs and have pretty decent crime rates. I guess it just depends on the attitudes of the people living in the area.
While both viewpoints are valid, killing criminals means that there are less people in jail leeching off our tax money.
oh now if there isn't a shadow of a doubt that you killed 12 people and ate the bodies then you need to die, but if you get caught with something you shouldn't have then you don't need to be thrown under the jail house for years. Yea some criminals should die, but you don't need to turn it into a big public event. When we start enjoying seeing people fry then we got a problem.
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I personally prefer Batman's method.
But sometimes, Punisher's method can be necessary.
It's not right to take away someone's life, even if he/she is a villain. But if it's for the better (like one sacrifice leads to a thousand of people saved in the future), then Punisher's method would be necessary.
You just need the guts to do it.
But sometimes, Punisher's method can be necessary.
It's not right to take away someone's life, even if he/she is a villain. But if it's for the better (like one sacrifice leads to a thousand of people saved in the future), then Punisher's method would be necessary.
You just need the guts to do it.