Adding Lithium to public drinking water
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Brittany
Director of Production
http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/05/22/052211-news-lithium-1-5/
This all started in Japan where researchers in 18 different communities noticed suicide, murders, and crimes were reduced in percentage per population the higher the amount of natural lithium was found in their drinking water.
Lithium over time has been proven to help reduce impulses and it is considered the gold-standard treatment for patients diagnosed with mania, schizophrenia, and major depression.
As the article states, this mudding up ones impulses could effect impulses acting out in healthy ways, such as suddenly pushing someone out of the way of an oncoming train.
The idea that lithium could be powerful enough to slow your response on whether or not to push someone out the way is beyond frightening.
I find it repulsive that someone goes from treating people diagnosed with disorders to going 'Hey! Let's give this shit to everyone!'
Where did anybody's rights go from this?
Luckily, I found I wasn't the only person militant about the idea of being spoon fed mood stabilizers to help reduce crime and suicides. This isn't the first time it's been brought up, and each time previously has resulted in violent reactions and threatening responses.
Put that in a pill and give it to people who need it. Hell give it to violent prisoners and see if it improves anything.
I can't even describe how angry it makes me to have the idea of even more shit put into my water.
And the argument is 'then buy bottled water' or 'buy a filtering system'
The problem is, water is provided which includes poverty. Tell some person in poverty to pay $1.30 every time they want a bottle of water. Or $30 every time they want a new filter to replace in their system.
To put it logically:
When your Check engine light comes on in your car, you take it to a shop or research the reasons why it could be on and try to fix it. You don't go out of your way to unplug your battery to reset the system thinking if the lights off then there is no problem.
If there is a high crime rate, and a high suicide rate in a community - find out why and do something about it. There's a city with high crime rate? Tear down abandoned old buildings and build better homes. Build a park and add an area for kids to play.
Don't dump something into the water system to sedate peoples impulses thinking you fixed the problem. That sounds like something straight out of a book like 1984.
This all started in Japan where researchers in 18 different communities noticed suicide, murders, and crimes were reduced in percentage per population the higher the amount of natural lithium was found in their drinking water.
Lithium over time has been proven to help reduce impulses and it is considered the gold-standard treatment for patients diagnosed with mania, schizophrenia, and major depression.
As the article states, this mudding up ones impulses could effect impulses acting out in healthy ways, such as suddenly pushing someone out of the way of an oncoming train.
The idea that lithium could be powerful enough to slow your response on whether or not to push someone out the way is beyond frightening.
I find it repulsive that someone goes from treating people diagnosed with disorders to going 'Hey! Let's give this shit to everyone!'
Where did anybody's rights go from this?
Luckily, I found I wasn't the only person militant about the idea of being spoon fed mood stabilizers to help reduce crime and suicides. This isn't the first time it's been brought up, and each time previously has resulted in violent reactions and threatening responses.
Put that in a pill and give it to people who need it. Hell give it to violent prisoners and see if it improves anything.
I can't even describe how angry it makes me to have the idea of even more shit put into my water.
And the argument is 'then buy bottled water' or 'buy a filtering system'
The problem is, water is provided which includes poverty. Tell some person in poverty to pay $1.30 every time they want a bottle of water. Or $30 every time they want a new filter to replace in their system.
To put it logically:
When your Check engine light comes on in your car, you take it to a shop or research the reasons why it could be on and try to fix it. You don't go out of your way to unplug your battery to reset the system thinking if the lights off then there is no problem.
If there is a high crime rate, and a high suicide rate in a community - find out why and do something about it. There's a city with high crime rate? Tear down abandoned old buildings and build better homes. Build a park and add an area for kids to play.
Don't dump something into the water system to sedate peoples impulses thinking you fixed the problem. That sounds like something straight out of a book like 1984.
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In the end this will probably just go the direction everything else goes, the way that offers the most (usually monetary) benefit. Hopefully that somehow becomes the way it should go too, seems like the people in charge mistake the way that benefits them as the right way when this is not necessarily the case.
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We should also grow more large trees.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1325984/Why-leafy-avenues-root-crime-detering-burglars.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1325984/Why-leafy-avenues-root-crime-detering-burglars.html
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Thats one of the stupidest things i've ever heard, wont this just increase things like car accident's.
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Lockhart's picture describes my reaction perfectly. (Except the blushing)
Sadly like EpicP said, the cheapest way to solve the problem will be the way a government is most likely to lean.
This makes me glad to have well water. If lithium slows down impulses in the brain then wont everyone become more slow? I dont mean like zombies but slower in the sense of quick thinking, reaction time, etc. Is it even legal to mass treat without consent? (What would happen in the event it moves on to a larger scale)
Sadly like EpicP said, the cheapest way to solve the problem will be the way a government is most likely to lean.
This makes me glad to have well water. If lithium slows down impulses in the brain then wont everyone become more slow? I dont mean like zombies but slower in the sense of quick thinking, reaction time, etc. Is it even legal to mass treat without consent? (What would happen in the event it moves on to a larger scale)
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I don't care for the idea, or any of the reasoning behind it. The usage of public mood inhibitors are usually given a very negative reaction in media, thank god.
Throwing lithium into the water from a correlation? What a horrendous misuse of science to further political agenda. If they are going to abuse the notion like that, I'd at least prefer they use it as a indication of untreated psychological issues across the board. I could get behind the government putting more money into the diagnosis and treatment of those mental disorders.
Throwing lithium into the water from a correlation? What a horrendous misuse of science to further political agenda. If they are going to abuse the notion like that, I'd at least prefer they use it as a indication of untreated psychological issues across the board. I could get behind the government putting more money into the diagnosis and treatment of those mental disorders.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
I took lithum before... not a happy memory of nonsensical hate and depression.
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I understand you. I don't see why we can't just drink clean freaking water instead of finding out it has more than just sodium in it.
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Join the Revolution Comrades
But seriously, Statism is a theology that replaces God with the State, Holy Text with Law, and Clergy with Politicians
This is the kind of shit that will inspire people to act.
But seriously, Statism is a theology that replaces God with the State, Holy Text with Law, and Clergy with Politicians
This is the kind of shit that will inspire people to act.
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Texas. you couldn't make me go there at gun point. if i had the choice of a flight with a thirty minute layover in texas, and a four week lay over in rat infested pit between a sewage treatment plant and a garbage dump, i pick the rathole.
i can't believe some of the crap the people let happen there, just because the authorities tell them to.
i can't believe some of the crap the people let happen there, just because the authorities tell them to.
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Brittany
Director of Production
That actually surprises me, especially since Texas is a conservative state.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
...we shall rise! We can't let them contaminate the purity of our essence!
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Ziggy wrote...
That actually surprises me, especially since Texas is a conservative state.Watch this video.
TED: Jonathan Haidt on the moral roots of liberals and conservatives
it talks about the differences between liberals and conservativs, and the balance they keep in society.
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That is exactly why I resent any government for that matter particularly democratic ones for attempting to stabilize the area with placebo peace.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
GroverCleaveland wrote...
Am I the only one who sees no problem with this?Depending on the doses.. it should be fine.. chance of liver damage and failure.. same as Tylenol, Ibuprofen and Vicodin overuse and OD. I was on Lithium for three years.. liver still works.
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GroverCleaveland wrote...
Am I the only one who sees no problem with this?I am disappointed in you.
It boggles me mind that someone can be complacent with someone tampering with their water. Whatever, drink as much of it as you want if you're fine with drinking it. I'll be filtering my water and if that does not suffice, I'll switch to bottled water (not acquired through municipal sources).
I'm for the removal of Flouride and all other contaminants or addatives from the water supply. Regardless if they are "good" for us or not. Water should only be basic hydrogen and oxygen.