[Locked] Art or Porn?

You said it! I consider art stuff that actually takes EFFORT into doing, like drawing manga for example. You KNOW when the artist is skilled. You can tell just by looking at a couple of drawings that he took several years training to get to that point. You know he worked hard on it to achieve that status. I value that.

But this image to me is porn. It doesn't make me feel a thing. It looks like she's sucking his dick - and that is all.

What TMS said it pretty accurate. I see this has art. Sure for the soft of heart this might be pretty damn offensive. But I think its unique and pretty risque to do something like this.

It is porn no mather what you say, and we sould accept it of what it is.

I would have to say that this picture is art considering you have the black and white going. Secondly its a cropped photo only focusing on a certain section, also you have the angle to consider. If it were porn we would be able to see more not just a cropped, black and white photo that's present.

I dunno, Jebus... You see how far she has that thing down her throat? If that does not take skill, I have no idea what does.



Agreed, that is what gets me. The angle is thought out, and it's zoomed in much further than normal, focusing on only that part of the scene...

Yes, it is very much porn related. No, someone did not splatter paint on a canvas all night and call it 'La Grandeur.' However, I just cannot see it as simple minded porn. Any two people off the street can get naked and take pictures of themselves doing things... It takes a lot more to make something like that.

If this is art and not porn because it involves some effort and forethought, then what about the pictures regularly featured in porno mags, such as Playboy and Hustler?

That shit doesn't just happen in five minutes. And it can't be done by an amateur with a digital camera.

For example:


The photographer certainly thought about the angle of the shot and the position of the woman. And it's not just a woman bearing it all; see how the blanket is wrapped around her - that didn't happen by accident.

So, is this picture art, or is it porn?

Well, it's not porn. But I don't consider it art neither.

I'd classify it as porn because I don't want to call it 'art' since [Don't shoot me, personal opinion] it feels like very little work has gone into it. Feels. I don't really mind if it took five hours to set up, since it looks very... Well, very much like a girl with a penis in her mouth. I could screenshot porn at moments and crop it, and I wouldn't get this, but I think I could probably compare the two.

Sure, it can be deep, blah blah, but I'll never pretend to understand it. Art to me is something I'd want to hang up on my wall, a work of beauty rather than a picture of a girl gagging on a dick. An example is a portrait done of me [excuse how self-serving that sounds] done by a local artist to fund his trip to UK to display art at a gallery. It's not the best, but it's personal, has a backstory and had me sitting there for an hour while he did it. This is a penis and some lips. Sure, landscapes are just trees and some water, but I like them. Not so fussed on cocks.

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Just fun to look at, right? :lol:

Or wave his dick at. Just because he doesn't call it porn, doesn't always mean someone out there hasn't gotten off to it. Some thirteen year old who just discovered his dad's porn stash from the nineties.

Much like guro, but all this is another topic for another day.

Aye, totally agree with that.

Usually you consider it art when you like to look at it. Like you said, hang it up on your wall or something. Something that gives you inspiration or just something paying tribute to someone or something.

What deeper meaning could a blowjob have hanged up on your wall? (except your friends getting horny at it when they come over)

BTW Hibia, I love some of the stuff you write. ^^ I suck at expressing myself.

lol was waiting for Playboy to come into the mix.

Playboy and other such erotic literature are made specifically to jerk it to. To use when the wife is out of town, or throws you on the couch. All the work that goes into taking the photos is to enhance the raw sexual appeal of the woman... If you could look deeper into Playboy than that, or it signified anything other than the obvious, then yes. I would be arguing it as art. However, I don't believe Hefner had that in mind.

The picture I originally created the topic on, however, was not created to oogle at dumbly. It was (this is no more than speculation, at this point... like with all art.) created to stir emotions within the viewer.
I look at the picture, and I see a chick giving a blowjob, yes. I also see the fact that everything besides that act is blurred out, enhancing the sharpness of it and saying something along the lines of "This is all that currently matters." I see her lack of facial expression, her slight imperfections, the shine of her tongue... All frozen, in a single moment.


Now, as it goes with art, the crafted object in question gives a different message to different people. Not everyone looks at the Mona Lisa and comments on how feminine that man looks. So what I see is slightly irrelevant, I just want to give an example that I do see more to this picture than anything Playboy has made to date.

Well, if you ask me, it's both. The way it's taken is artistic, but the subject matter is definitely pr0nographic.

I honestly feel like you could crop, grayscale and blur a screencap of some high res porn and come to that. It evokes no deeper thought in me personally than 'she's sucking a cock'; if anything, it looks like it's trying too hard to be art, and thus I say porn.

yes. agreed

Ah...erotic art. I suppose to classify this as art or pornography, we'd have to ask ourselves if this picture is obscene or not.

To me, it's no more obscene than any ancient Greek art depicting same sex relations and pederasty.

This is my opinion exactly; it's all up to one's self to decide whether or not this photograph should be called art. Many people, which I find strange, actually like art such as this, and hang it in their house. I would never personally do that, but I do believe that it has artistic value.

Well my opinion is like many others, I wouldn't consider this porn but I wouldn't disclose it as art either. The fact that it doesn't portray any means of a risque sexual act neither does it give off any of the same vibe you would get from art. In my terms, to myself it seems about 50/50.

Which is pretty much what art is. Art is trying to tell something while not saying it out loud.
I think this is art. Though people telling its porn are making me doubt my statement.